jetblast

oi... mai hai wah lei!!!
now even the yellow river can't save me

Ringer

Hi guys,

The best part is those Whiteline sways cost only S$550 delivered airflown by Morgan Oh. Thanks Morgan. I think he has 1 extra set. Anyone interested better "take first talk later". It's possibly the best mod a little can money - "best bang for the buck".

I will be installing next week. Costs very little to install. Will report results.

-Ringer-

takahashi

Oh did they? When? For holden and rex yes... RX-8.... what is that according to them ... someone asked me - is that a V8

I personally do not see the difference when I ride the Whiteline and the MazdaSpeed - no offence ILIV48. The only thing is that the MazdaSpeed has not moved an inch after installing and Whiteline did.

If it does not goes left and right on your car then it is all good. So please kneel down and check now

BTW I love Aussie products - Motec, Microtech, Rotormaster, Promaz,....., women (oops!)

lohsk

I like Aussie products.... esp the "oops" bit....

coupe07

ya lah... ur short shifter is coming lah...... patience....

coupe07

u better love aussie products... cos u r stepping on their land now... :D

takahashi

I fear no one :D

Oh yes I am listening to stuff behind the scene...

hint: did I mention some goodies in my thread reply above ---

cuscorex

bro,if u r a falken fan,wait 4 the RT615,215 is out-of-date liao...

Genesis

Although my AD07's are great in the corners....the upgrade path includes a set of 615's

Genesis

Had the whiteline sways installed today (BIG thx goes to sgflyer/coupe07 and especially Morganoh for the personal delivery ) and must tell you guys that they are fantastic. In my case, I installed the sways a couple of weeks after installing the HKS hipermax II coilovers. The upgraded sus combo is superb....my 8 is finally starting to handle like I want. Since the coilovers were first installed, I've been adjusting ride height and damping to max the performance/comfort ratio (given the relatively low offset of my rims with camber adjustments to avoid fender scraping at speed) and to be honest got frustrated cause I really couldn't get it right, but once the solid (read heavy!) whiteline sway bars were installed it all came together. I found just the right performance balance today. Man, I had a grin on my face this afternoon driving my 8!

sqflyer

Glad you are enjoying your new Whiteline swaybars. It really brings the 8's corner handling to another level. Yup, many many thanks to Morgan for taking the trouble to bring them back from OZ land! Kudos!

Siesta

This has got to be the most poisonous forum ever created :p :p

Genesis

:D So what's your next mod?

sqflyer

Wahahaha... I always warn new members to beware the poison, but it's just a formality b'coz it's inevitable :D For me, it's just a matter of which mod will arrive in SG first. :p

Siesta

Ordered the Cusco front and rear sways....It seems that everyone has been raving about the good effects of adding sway bars.

by the way, I saw the Ganador side mirrors naughty boy was talking about during the last sunday meet at cartronics yesterday. thought it might be of some interest to you.

Just trying to spread the poison abit to detox myself :p

EZZY

good to hear! im looking at getting a set of coiloverts, and HKS hipermax II coilovers is high on my list atm....
what size wheels are you running and if you dont mind, i'd love to get your setting, so that'd cut half of my "mucking around" :D

good to know that you guys liked it..... guess how whiteline developed the sway bars :p

Genesis

My wheels are 18x8.5 with 245/40R18....I ended up setting the front damper to 14 (that is, back 14 counterclockwise clicks from maximum) and the rears at 18. It's tricky to set the rears since the cables in the boot for the damper adjustment don't click like the fronts, you have to just keep trying to get the feel for it. My ride height needed adjustment a couple of times (front and rear at different settings) due to fender scraping, but it's ok now.

Ezzy...regardless of my settings, you'll still have to muck around if you get coilovers because it's all personal preference in terms of how much ride comfort you want to give up to attain better performance. I kept tweaking to find the best handling I could achieve without rattling my teeth everytime I hit a bump. That's why the whiteline sways were such a great (and timely) addition....I was able to soften the damper settings a bit more, but still get tight handling....it's the perfect compliment to the coilovers.

Ringer

Hi all,

Sorry for the late report. I just got my Whiteline solid sways installed today during my 2yr/24,000km service and recall do up.

After coming out from GR I drove thro Old Upper Thomson Road. The feel is fantastic even though I only went brisk not fast due to traffic and warning on the box to take some time to get used to the new behaviour.

Ride comfort is as expected as civilized as before - firm and controlled but very comfortable for a sports car, maybe a tad firmer and more solid feel.

The flat attitude is clearly noticeable when driving through my usual routes and taking 90 deg turns at normal (my normal brisk) speeds. Just what I wanted. Put a big smile on my face.

I look forward to my next drive.

Thank you Morgan for your effort in bringing the Whitelines in. Anyone interested better snap up his last set.

-Ringer-

sandman369

one further question, on ride height, how much did you lower or currently what is the gap like between top of wheel and body of car (measurement by number of fingers is ok)? any problems wth humps and car park generally on your current ride height? thanks in advance.

Genesis

My first setting was not measurable by finger...quite low. The hipermax spring preload is great, but I had to keep the damper setting very tight to avoid fender scraping at speed, even in straights. This was a nightmare driving in Msia! Not only that, but I couldn't drive up steep carpark ramps without the inevitable underbody clunk at the top...everytime that pissed me off, no matter how slow I was going.

Next adjustment was up 4mm front and 8mm back...about one finger exactly in the rear. I could then soften the dampers a bit which helped with ride comfort, but at speed in hard corners more scraping, but only in the rears. Much better clearance on ramps and speed bumps tho.

Final adjustment was up another 2mm front and 4mm rear. Still had to keep dampers tight, then I added the whiteline sways and softened the dampers a bit. Finally got the performance and handling I wanted. Excellent hard cornering ability and superb control on high speed straights. Tested that out last Sunday on the N-S

Note, the offset on my rims is +30 which looks great, but is hell to adjust with coilovers. My current ride height setting is optimal, but I will need to roll my rear fenders to completely remove any further scraping during hard cornering. Will be doing that soon. If your rims are greater than +30 offset, depending on the type of rims, then you will be able to go lower than me and get fantastic performance with good coilovers. Just keep in mind the friggin carpark ramps!

sandman369

thanks for the comprehensive info. dun think will go so low if i were to buy coilover. probably 2 fingers back one finger front. can imagine how good the handling of your car is now with coilover and sway bars. come to think of it, there's like ecu tuning but seldom susp tuning. think there should be a demand for that and someone should provide susp tuning.

Ringer

UPDATE

Hi all,

Just been to GR to inspect and retension the Whitelines as instructed on the box after 100km. (Actually I'd gone 300+kms in 5 days).

Took it around Old Upper Thomson Road again after. This time a bit faster, inducing some tyre squeal during the run. I tell you, the feeling is incredible. The best improvement I believe is in the much tidier handling. It's strange but steering is so much more crisp. Less steering input is required to make turns, most impressive during series of S bends. So tidy in straightening after a turn!

Couple of updates to the questions I asked earlier. I read that the increase in unsprung weight is negligible. The main body of the sway bar that's attached to the car body does not add to unsprung weight. Only the last bit attached to the suspension arm does. I read somewhere it comes to only a few 100 gms per wheel. There.

As for the question on negative effect on ride comfort? Defies logic, but in my opinion it's actually improved.

As for whether it causes more or less roll when one wheel only goes over a bump or pothole? I can confirm less roll!! Defies logic but I figured it out. The swaybar acts as a damper in that situation and improves ride and stability.

There are many names for this simple piece of metal - anti-roll bar, swaybar, stabilizer. I think the most apt is stabilizer.

-Ringer-

sqflyer

Ringer, what's the outcome of the inspection at GR? Did it shift? I bought some clamps in preparation to secure the Whitelines when I get it hoisted.

M-ster

It does put a smile on your face doesn't it!

I posted some threads early, its quite amazing what a stiffer sways can do to our car! Wonder why didn't Mazda just give us a beefier sways as stock right away?
enjoy!

Genesis

I think I'll get an inspection now that I've put about 1000 km's on since install. I've looked at the endlinks and bushings which appear fine, but it really needs to be hoisted to properly inspect, perhaps retension if required. What kind of clamps are you referring to flyer?