Manwe

2 tone leather is an available option for all countries except singapore.... damn dumb. I told them that i wanted the 2 tone red-black but was told they only offer the brown and it doesn't match my red. Then the se said his boss managed to get mazda japan to make special indent. That would take extra 1 mth. So i had been waiting....waiting....

Genesis

Manwe, two tone red-black seats, not even offered to me, you must have ordered red car from MM, but they said only all black leather interior available in Nov with red...any changes would cost an extra $2k....lol

Manwe

Yea....ordered a red from them. No extra cost. But the booking fee is a whopping 21k. Ouched! The money could have earned extra couple k in some trust funds of premium currencies by banks instead of sitting in mm's bank acc....

Genesis

Damn...what the hell is that? My booking fee was fixed, and a lot lower, PM me dude.

sqflyer

My apologies for confusing the matter. After the Glare treatment, you get 18 months of warranty. Every 6 months, you can bring it in for a free wash and a gloss check. So that's 3 washes and gloss maintenance check in total, one every 6 months during the whole 18 month period. If it fails the gloss check (below 90% of the original gloss reading after the treatment), you are entitled to another application of the Glare treatment for free under warranty. I guess if it works pretty much like TS, then you should be able to do quick washes yourself with relative ease (at least that's what I'm hoping it'll do for my car). No subscription thingie.

Genesis

Flyer...the gloss check?...how is the 90% quantified? 10% paint removal?

sqflyer

I must admit that I'm pretty ignorant about all these stuff and just simply buying into their marketing propaganda. Actually, I'm pretty sure the product is good enough not to have to claim their warranty else they'll go broke giving out reapplications. I'll buy any product that helps me cut down the washing time and still protect the paintwork enough to maintain a decent shine.

As for the gloss check, they have a gloss measuring equipment to "quantify" the shine on the car after the Glare treatment and then your car is warrantied for 18 months not to lose more than 10% of its shine. I'm not advocating that Glare is the best thing since sliced bread, but the offer is attractive and it meets my needs. I've only heard good things about it so far and that's why I'm asking for feedback from those who have done it. Hoping to hear some bad comments (if any) so I can see both sides of the coin.

watoke

sqflyer,

Do "Glare" provide washing and wiping & cleaning up the interior for a certain cost, just like TS? After 1st coating, everytime you go back, they wash, vaccum and apply the WASH Guard over the body again for just a small cost of $10. (This saves me so much time of washing and waxing and cleaing on my own) :p
Does "Glare" provide such a service?
TS dun have equipment to check the "shine". :o
Anyone got any comments to this?

sqflyer

As far as what the Glare people told me, the 3 free maintenance sessions include "FULL interior and exterior grooming" and your car's shine is checked again. I guess it can be subjective what the grooming includes, but I guess it can't really be considered "grooming" if they don't vacuum the interior and wash the exterior. Not too sure about the wash guard thing or it's equivalent though.

Apparently nobody else uses the gloss measuring equipment, claiming it's just a gimmick. However, these are also the people who say that after their treatment, they can "see" and "feel" the difference, which I think is also "just a gimmick". If they are comparing against a car that has not gone through any treatment, even a blind bat can see and feel the difference lah. But I don't think its's that distinguishable if compared to a different treatment. At least I don't think I can tell the difference, so I need to be humoured with a gimmicky equipment. :p No lah, actually that's why we're asking for feedback but nobody respond leh... dunno whether they not commenting or they got nothing bad to say.

Manwe

i got friends who would say toughseal is much better than glare.... and the ppl from toyota club had many switching over to toughseal from glare.... need ppl who had tried both to comment....

watoke

Manwe,

Well, I must say yes, TS is good, but it is better with Glare I wouldn't know. But one for sure is that they are always short for staff doing the $10 washing and the Wash Guard. When the place it packed, you expect a half done kind of washing.
Again, unless someone has done with both and can comments on it, if not ...is very difficult.
My 2 cents

Manwe

What if Glare is worse? Having understaff ppl....then it is back to square one. Any Glare user around to comment?

watoke

Hmm..anyone had any bad experience with "GLARE" ?
For TS, I am very sure, product "GOOD", service "SUCKS" (due to shortage of staff)
Anyone one wants to comment?

sqflyer

Neon used Glare and he's pretty happy with it. He oso said the people at Jln Tua Kong and Paya Ubi are quite friendly. Actually, the offer is main reason why I'm going for Glare. If not for the 50% discount on Glare (usual price $488), I would rather go for the PPS Teflon treatment at $388.