Supercharge or Turbo Legal here ?
01-13-2006, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 4-TOOTH
Just a question...... any of those system legal in Singapore? If there are .. how much do they cost roughly? 
01-15-2006, 11:07 AM
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Its illegal and yet i know quite a few friends who do it. Well, its ok as long as you do not get caught.
In fact i heard its even more illegal to increase cubic capacity of the engine as it involves tax evasion. And yet quite a few civics have their 1.6 increase to 2.2 (and even 2.3). And the 7s with 20Bs. Maybe a 8with 20b?
In fact i heard its even more illegal to increase cubic capacity of the engine as it involves tax evasion. And yet quite a few civics have their 1.6 increase to 2.2 (and even 2.3). And the 7s with 20Bs. Maybe a 8with 20b?
01-15-2006, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by M-ster
hmm... i thought i've read it in OneMotoring before, it can be done legally. Just need to submit papers and propably alot of it....
01-15-2006, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Emperor
Its illegal and yet i know quite a few friends who do it. Well, its ok as long as you do not get caught.
In fact i heard its even more illegal to increase cubic capacity of the engine as it involves tax evasion. And yet quite a few civics have their 1.6 increase to 2.2 (and even 2.3). And the 7s with 20Bs. Maybe a 8with 20b?
In fact i heard its even more illegal to increase cubic capacity of the engine as it involves tax evasion. And yet quite a few civics have their 1.6 increase to 2.2 (and even 2.3). And the 7s with 20Bs. Maybe a 8with 20b?
01-16-2006, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver_Z
Its legal once you pay LTA. Consider it a legal bribe to make the law work for you.
01-16-2006, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Slowdriver
Let's say, you pay LTA. Then will be there any increase in road tax and insurance?
01-16-2006, 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Slowdriver
Let's say, you pay LTA. Then will be there any increase in road tax and insurance?
01-16-2006, 04:36 AM
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Good point... Insurance is also a big sticky issue. It would be REAL bad if you get your illegally modified 8 into an accident and then the insurance company decides not to foot the bill. As always, there are many other "costs" to modding cars beyond what comes out of your wallet.
01-16-2006, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 4-TOOTH
Yeah talking about insurance ... how about changing the our suspension to aftermarket coilver ??? any idea if it voids anything ? Insurance or warranty??
01-16-2006, 10:19 AM
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They do not need to take apart the engine to test its CC. I know of a machine that tests for compression can also test its CC too.
The only reason the US or Euro specs are of higher cc is to meet emissions laws and yet keep the same power. They are just tuned and produced diffrently than when you re-bore a engine to increase capacity for power.
CC is not exactly everything. In the 70s, Honda had a race V12 engine of 1000cc pumping quite a few hundred HPs.
The only reason the US or Euro specs are of higher cc is to meet emissions laws and yet keep the same power. They are just tuned and produced diffrently than when you re-bore a engine to increase capacity for power.
CC is not exactly everything. In the 70s, Honda had a race V12 engine of 1000cc pumping quite a few hundred HPs.
01-16-2006, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Emperor
They do not need to take apart the engine to test its CC. I know of a machine that tests for compression can also test its CC too.
The only reason the US or Euro specs are of higher cc is to meet emissions laws and yet keep the same power. They are just tuned and produced diffrently than when you re-bore a engine to increase capacity for power.
CC is not exactly everything. In the 70s, Honda had a race V12 engine of 1000cc pumping quite a few hundred HPs.
The only reason the US or Euro specs are of higher cc is to meet emissions laws and yet keep the same power. They are just tuned and produced diffrently than when you re-bore a engine to increase capacity for power.
CC is not exactly everything. In the 70s, Honda had a race V12 engine of 1000cc pumping quite a few hundred HPs.
01-16-2006, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by cuscorex
if somtin happened to the car's undercarriage,& u wana claim,they can 'put the blame' on ur aft-mkt suspension & void ur claim lor...
hmm..... really need to consider.. haha
10-24-2006, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by MindFreak
any idea how much to get the tc approve and if it is already fixed but not approved what are the steps to get it approve?
gt tis fr cut fr one-motoring site:
The addition of superchargers or turbochargers to a vehicle may adversely affect the safe operation and its exhaust emission characteristics. Therefore, LTA would require the following to be submitted for evaluation:
a) Technical specifications and installation details (including pictures and drawings) of the proposed supercharger or turbocharger.
b) Certification from the vehicle manufacturer stating that the supercharger or turbocharger is suitable for the vehicle on a per make and model of the vehicle.
c) Certification or test reports from independent test laboratories such as TUV, DEKRA, JVIA, VCA, etc. to show that the turbocharger or supercharger when fitted to the vehicle on a per make and model basis complied with prevailing exhaust emission standards.
its the papers tat is diff to gt hold of. life will b much easier for both enthusiats & ROV officers if $ can do all the tokins loh....
10-24-2006, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by cuscorex
well,its nt so simple tat u juz turned up @ LTA's counter tellin the counter gal " i've juz install a turbo sys onto the car,hw much do i hv to pay 4 approval huh?"
gt tis fr cut fr one-motoring site:
The addition of superchargers or turbochargers to a vehicle may adversely affect the safe operation and its exhaust emission characteristics. Therefore, LTA would require the following to be submitted for evaluation:
a) Technical specifications and installation details (including pictures and drawings) of the proposed supercharger or turbocharger.
b) Certification from the vehicle manufacturer stating that the supercharger or turbocharger is suitable for the vehicle on a per make and model of the vehicle.
c) Certification or test reports from independent test laboratories such as TUV, DEKRA, JVIA, VCA, etc. to show that the turbocharger or supercharger when fitted to the vehicle on a per make and model basis complied with prevailing exhaust emission standards.
its the papers tat is diff to gt hold of. life will b much easier for both enthusiats & ROV officers if $ can do all the tokins loh....
gt tis fr cut fr one-motoring site:
The addition of superchargers or turbochargers to a vehicle may adversely affect the safe operation and its exhaust emission characteristics. Therefore, LTA would require the following to be submitted for evaluation:
a) Technical specifications and installation details (including pictures and drawings) of the proposed supercharger or turbocharger.
b) Certification from the vehicle manufacturer stating that the supercharger or turbocharger is suitable for the vehicle on a per make and model of the vehicle.
c) Certification or test reports from independent test laboratories such as TUV, DEKRA, JVIA, VCA, etc. to show that the turbocharger or supercharger when fitted to the vehicle on a per make and model basis complied with prevailing exhaust emission standards.
its the papers tat is diff to gt hold of. life will b much easier for both enthusiats & ROV officers if $ can do all the tokins loh....
I was abt the post these hehehe from LTA website. In essence, u need to get Mazda to say the TC is ok for the car, does not affect performance and safety issues etc etc which is ... impossible!!!
So u end up either
1. kah kah lai and just do it
2. be a good citizen and dont do any illegal mod....
Cheers
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