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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 02:25 AM
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PI or MM???(SG)

gooday to all RX 8 Bros,

thinking to get RX8 (6MT). but dunno is it advisable to get from PI? as MM sells at 122k which compared to PI 108K. are all the specs same? sunroof, hps, bodykit, rims, player, leather seats, etc... can give the advise?

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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 02:36 AM
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No, the specs from MM and PI are not the same
electric chair, moon roof, fog lamp are mostly not included if u get from PI.
also the warranty and waiting time is another consideration factor.
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 03:22 AM
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do a search. covered in one of the post.

I add 2 items than i can remember.
1, 2nd oil cooler
2, auto leveling headlights and washers
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 03:57 AM
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auto cruise also not included for PI (at least for me)
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 04:15 AM
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Depends what u want.

1. MM - peace in mind when it comes to warranty.... but can't install any serious mod, unless u r prepared to void your warranty.

2. PI - U can do anything you want to it, but warranty is limited to 1 or 2 years.
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Veil_Side
No, the specs from MM and PI are not the same
electric chair, moon roof, fog lamp are mostly not included if u get from PI.
also the warranty and waiting time is another consideration factor.
bro, you mean only MM has electric chair, moon roof(i thought its sunroof? correct me if i am wrong)
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by mkl22
do a search. covered in one of the post.

I add 2 items than i can remember.
1, 2nd oil cooler
2, auto leveling headlights and washers

bro, you mean MM has additional oil cooler?
btw, wat does your item 2 means? auto leveling headlights and washer? thanks
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Veil_Side
auto cruise also not included for PI (at least for me)
bro, you mean there is auto cruise for 6MT by MM?
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by KiNsLaYer
Depends what u want.

1. MM - peace in mind when it comes to warranty.... but can't install any serious mod, unless u r prepared to void your warranty.

2. PI - U can do anything you want to it, but warranty is limited to 1 or 2 years.
thanks for your input bro.

i am thinking whether is it worth to fork out the 10k plus for MM. so trying to weigh wat does the car come with except for the warranty.
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by vti magnesium
thanks for your input bro.

i am thinking whether is it worth to fork out the 10k plus for MM. so trying to weigh wat does the car come with except for the warranty.
Actually if u buy a PI car and spend extra money on all the features that u get from a MM, u will or maybe paying more (will never be less) for the PI car + extra MM features.
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by KiNsLaYer
Depends what u want.

1. MM - peace in mind when it comes to warranty.... but can't install any serious mod, unless u r prepared to void your warranty.

2. PI - U can do anything you want to it, but warranty is limited to 1 or 2 years.
Not accurate...

1. MM - Peace of mind for warranty, agree. Can't install serious mod coz will void warranty, disagree. There are many mods that will not void your warranty. Of course you cannot be so dumb as to drive into MM with all your serious mods that will oso lah.

2. PI - U can do anything you want to it, agree. BUT the reason is because warranty from majority of PIs is worth as much as my dog's doo doo. Only a handful of PIs will actually honour the warranty.
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by vti magnesium
bro, you mean only MM has electric chair, moon roof(i thought its sunroof? correct me if i am wrong)
You can get electric chair and SUNROOF from PIs too but they are add-on options that you will have to pay extra for unless the $108K quote that you got specifically includes it.
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bro, you mean MM has additional oil cooler?
btw, wat does your item 2 means? auto leveling headlights and washer? thanks
MM's 6MT has 2 oil cooler while PI's 6MT has only 1. Auto leveling headlights and headlight washers are quite self explanatory.
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bro, you mean there is auto cruise for 6MT by MM?
No, not an option.
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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hi

Originally Posted by vti magnesium
gooday to all RX 8 Bros,

thinking to get RX8 (6MT). but dunno is it advisable to get from PI? as MM sells at 122k which compared to PI 108K. are all the specs same? sunroof, hps, bodykit, rims, player, leather seats, etc... can give the advise?
If I had a chance to do it all over again, I will still go will MM. Personal experience with them have been quite good both in terms of accident claims/repairs and warranty claims. Blew my 13B in mid Dec and had it replace under warranty by early Jan, without much of a hassle, doubtful how many PI could have handled it in this way. Not to mention the time that they voluntarily change my engine mounts w/o even me having to tell them. Just my 2 cents worth.
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by sqflyer
Not accurate...

1. MM - Peace of mind for warranty, agree. Can't install serious mod coz will void warranty, disagree. There are many mods that will not void your warranty. Of course you cannot be so dumb as to drive into MM with all your serious mods that will oso lah.

2. PI - U can do anything you want to it, agree. BUT the reason is because warranty from majority of PIs is worth as much as my dog's doo doo. Only a handful of PIs will actually honour the warranty.
Totally agreed with sqflyer. Typing was incomplete when my com when berserk.
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by canman42
If I had a chance to do it all over again, I will still go will MM. Personal experience with them have been quite good both in terms of accident claims/repairs and warranty claims. Blew my 13B in mid Dec and had it replace under warranty by early Jan, without much of a hassle, doubtful how many PI could have handled it in this way. Not to mention the time that they voluntarily change my engine mounts w/o even me having to tell them. Just my 2 cents worth.
blew your engine? carbon lock? and thus apex seal broke?
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by canman42
If I had a chance to do it all over again, I will still go will MM. Personal experience with them have been quite good both in terms of accident claims/repairs and warranty claims. Blew my 13B in mid Dec and had it replace under warranty by early Jan, without much of a hassle, doubtful how many PI could have handled it in this way. Not to mention the time that they voluntarily change my engine mounts w/o even me having to tell them. Just my 2 cents worth.
My experince with PI workshop has been quite good.
Not sure how my suspension oil leak and got it change w/o any hassle.

Thinking back, i suspect it's my fault as i ran over the curb in parking but no questinon asked and got it replaced within 1 week upon ordering
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 10:57 AM
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Interesting article from ST Online, I wonder if this will trigger off more regulations hmmm?

June 25, 2007
Open market values of parallel import cars significantly lower
PARALLEL-IMPORTED cars are attracting lower taxes than equivalent models brought in by authorised agents, with the difference sometimes being more than $10,000 per car.
Parallel imports now have much lower open market values (OMVs) - the approximate cost prices on which tax and duty of 130 per cent apply.

The Straits Times understands that Singapore Customs, which assesses OMVs, may review the way those of parallel imports are assessed.

It had previously said that OMVs 'can be different for different importers because of the difference in quantity purchased, difference in bargaining power, and other circumstances'.

This 'OMV anomaly' for equivalent car models can mean a difference of more than $10,000 in taxes, according to checks by The Straits Times.

Many car buyers now choose parallel imports because they are cheaper, and this has upset the authorised agents.

Currently, the gap in price between a parallel import and an equivalent model from an authorised agent can range from $1,000 for a small hatchback to $15,000 for a big seven-seater.
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 08:21 PM
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ADs are upset? Whats there to be upset? Lower their pricing and ppl will flock back to them. PIs are good. They are the balance to the scale.

Btw, I read that MM manage to stop the sale of RX8 to PIs. How true is this? Is this why the price of the MM RX8 has increase drastically?
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 12:33 AM
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I can agree with the dramatic increase. It was 108k at 1 point and now its 122k. Difference of 14k. when it was 108k COE was about 9k (not that 5k dip) so even correlating with COE increase which is 6-7k, there's an unexplained 7k increase. From the ST news article, looks lke the OMV of PI's cars going to be more rigorously checked and I wonder which is the PI that was reported where customs been getting ready to sweep.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:07 AM
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i think besides the 7k there is also an OMV difference? so they may make even more. But its not only MM doing this. all the other ADs are the same. their profit per car is actually higher now than back in 2004/2005.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mkl22
i think besides the 7k there is also an OMV difference? so they may make even more. But its not only MM doing this. all the other ADs are the same. their profit per car is actually higher now than back in 2004/2005.
yup... I think their OMV for the type S was like 29k recently??? selling at 122k? the % profit is so high?
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