Legal exhaust for RX-8 in SG
05-07-2005, 09:42 AM
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Hi all, just checked with Lance (GR) today about the HKS exhaust. He quoted 1600-1700 and said could be done by end of this month cos he expecting to clear the JVIA soon. Saw the beginning of this thread that GR quoted 2000-2400 to one of the bro?
Wondering if anyone has gotten news about the Fujitsubo yet?
Wondering if anyone has gotten news about the Fujitsubo yet?
05-07-2005, 12:38 PM
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It's good news that GR is getting the HKS exhaust certified. If HKS is acceptable to you guys, we can probably negotiate for a group discount. sgrenesis is checking about other exhausts with ST because apparently Fujitsubo doesn't go well with autos. Anyone has an reviews on the HKS for 8s both manual and auto?
05-07-2005, 11:04 PM
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Doing some net searching, I couldn't find a HKS Legamax supplier who mentioned specifically about compatibility with AT. We'll have to check with the local supplier who can inquire directly with HKS Japan.
Doing some searching in this forum, here's an excellent link to a US install of HKS Legamax which includes pics and vids. https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...4&page=1&pp=15 Look at the size of those tips! I especially like the sound, but note that the car also has HKS Racing Suction.
Doing some searching in this forum, here's an excellent link to a US install of HKS Legamax which includes pics and vids. https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...4&page=1&pp=15 Look at the size of those tips! I especially like the sound, but note that the car also has HKS Racing Suction.
05-08-2005, 12:13 PM
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Ok guys i went to ST today and Des said that the ONLY other option taht we have will be A'pex
Can someone please contact them to see if it will be compatible for both makes.
At the moment, hopefully lance didnt cook up a story again, i am leaning to the HKS if it works both sides.
Can someone please contact them to see if it will be compatible for both makes.
At the moment, hopefully lance didnt cook up a story again, i am leaning to the HKS if it works both sides.
05-08-2005, 11:45 PM
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Update to date...
Current exhausts under consideration are A'pex, Fujitsubo, HKS and Supersprint. Due to performance issues on autos, Fujitsubo is put on hold as unless we go ahead for manual 8s only. So far no info on A'pex, but I believe HKS and Supersprint should be okay for both auto and manual. Problem with A'pex and HKS is difficulty in getting JVIA certification. Supersprint should be easier because it's certification is by European standards and LTA adopts Euro emission standards. Is everyone comfortable with A'pex, HKS and Supersprint? We need some concensus before we approach the respective distributors. Can I assume that everyone is okay with any of the listed brands? If not, please state the brand(s) that you object to.
05-09-2005, 08:46 AM
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With so many brand options avail. What is the decision going to be based on? Performance? Weight? or Costs?
Found this website on exhausts, not sure if this provides the relative comparison of the corresponding price in Sing$
http://www.hopupracing.com/exhaustheaders61.html
Found this website on exhausts, not sure if this provides the relative comparison of the corresponding price in Sing$
http://www.hopupracing.com/exhaustheaders61.html
05-09-2005, 09:00 AM
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Saw this in LTA website....
After-market exhaust system brands approved by LTA
Here are the 12 after-market system brands approved by LTA. These systems have been tested by the vehicle manufacturers or independent test laboratories such as TUV, DEKRA in Europe or JVIA in Japan.
For cars
1. Remus
2. Supersprint
3. Oettinger
4. Heico
5. TTE
6. Bosal
7. Jetex-Fortex
8. Novitec
9. MS Design
10. AC Schnitzer
After-market exhaust system brands approved by LTA
Here are the 12 after-market system brands approved by LTA. These systems have been tested by the vehicle manufacturers or independent test laboratories such as TUV, DEKRA in Europe or JVIA in Japan.
For cars
1. Remus
2. Supersprint
3. Oettinger
4. Heico
5. TTE
6. Bosal
7. Jetex-Fortex
8. Novitec
9. MS Design
10. AC Schnitzer
05-09-2005, 09:20 AM
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Small update, I went down to Jeep Chee and told him we have 10+ members interested to get an approved after-market exhaust for the RX-8. He said Supersprint wants a commitment for 40 pcs before they are willing to send their RX-8 exhaust for certification in Europe. He said he will try to talk them down to 20 pcs because of our smaller market in SG and they agree to get it certified, then he can bring in the Supersprint for local LTA approval. All this takes time, but at least we are moving in the right direction.
Personally, I feel the Supersprint should clear certification tests without problem because the exhaust diameter is 2.5" and thus the noise level is acceptable and being from Europe also helps because LTA follows Euro emissions standards. The smaller diameter also ensures enough back pressure for low end torque (so should be good for autos too). It should be good for N/A cars like our RX-8, but if you intend to go into FI in future, albeit illegally, then a bigger 3" diameter exhaust would be better. So the question now is: how many of you are NOT interested in the Supersprint?
Personally, I feel the Supersprint should clear certification tests without problem because the exhaust diameter is 2.5" and thus the noise level is acceptable and being from Europe also helps because LTA follows Euro emissions standards. The smaller diameter also ensures enough back pressure for low end torque (so should be good for autos too). It should be good for N/A cars like our RX-8, but if you intend to go into FI in future, albeit illegally, then a bigger 3" diameter exhaust would be better. So the question now is: how many of you are NOT interested in the Supersprint?
05-12-2005, 05:56 AM
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Upz... :D :D :D
Just wanna keep everyone in the loop. sgrenesis has checked with a more reliable source at GR and confirmed that they are bringing in the HKS exhaust for our 8 soon. He was told that HKS is close to getting JVIA certification (or already got, I can't rem) and GR should be bringing it in within the next month or so. Again, as we all know, let's just wait and see to believe (dun blame sgren hor). But just to be prepared on our side, how many guys are IN for the HKS exhaust. We will need to know our "strength-in-numbers" before we can negotiate. Just FYI, the HKS is around $1.9K w/o papers, certfication is around $400+ so you can expect a final price tag of around $2.4K. Hoping to bring it down with some clever bargaining, any good hagglers or hostage negotiators can volunteer their services? Post your reply or PM/sms me your interest.
Just wanna keep everyone in the loop. sgrenesis has checked with a more reliable source at GR and confirmed that they are bringing in the HKS exhaust for our 8 soon. He was told that HKS is close to getting JVIA certification (or already got, I can't rem) and GR should be bringing it in within the next month or so. Again, as we all know, let's just wait and see to believe (dun blame sgren hor). But just to be prepared on our side, how many guys are IN for the HKS exhaust. We will need to know our "strength-in-numbers" before we can negotiate. Just FYI, the HKS is around $1.9K w/o papers, certfication is around $400+ so you can expect a final price tag of around $2.4K. Hoping to bring it down with some clever bargaining, any good hagglers or hostage negotiators can volunteer their services? Post your reply or PM/sms me your interest.
05-12-2005, 07:20 AM
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Hi fellow bros
The price quoted definitely can be negotiated if u can finalize the numbers. So do decide which to choose (caveat if u get HKS, it is a good opportunity to start a meaningful relationship with them as they have lots more things for the 8 ). And seems they can get the exos much faster than Jeep Chee who needs 20 orders.
Knowing GR, they will prob get certification anyway so if u guys don't GB now, when u approach them individually next time, u may pay a bit more (my thoughts).
The price quoted definitely can be negotiated if u can finalize the numbers. So do decide which to choose (caveat if u get HKS, it is a good opportunity to start a meaningful relationship with them as they have lots more things for the 8 ). And seems they can get the exos much faster than Jeep Chee who needs 20 orders.
Knowing GR, they will prob get certification anyway so if u guys don't GB now, when u approach them individually next time, u may pay a bit more (my thoughts).
05-12-2005, 08:51 AM
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flyer...I'm a definite player for the HKS exhaust. Certainly $2.4k is a bit steep since I've seen it offered on various US webbies for about US$1k. After the currency exchange, that's about SG$1.65k, so with the additional cert cost we "should" be able to get it for around $2k max assuming we have enough committed buyers. Although I've never negotiated a hostage release (yet) 
, but I do enjoy price haggling.
Who else is committed to the HKS?
, but I do enjoy price haggling.Who else is committed to the HKS?
05-12-2005, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Genesis
flyer...I'm a definite player for the HKS exhaust. Certainly $2.4k is a bit steep since I've seen it offered on various US webbies for about US$1k. After the currency exchange, that's about SG$1.65k, so with the additional cert cost we "should" be able to get it for around $2k max assuming we have enough committed buyers. Although I've never negotiated a hostage release (yet) , but I do enjoy price haggling.
Who else is committed to the HKS?
, but I do enjoy price haggling.Who else is committed to the HKS?
So good luck bros. If I happen to go down, will try to haggle for everyone.
cheers
05-13-2005, 06:26 AM
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Hi guys
Sorry to budge in again but I found a reliable source that is willing to do certification for fujitsubo min 10 orders. The price will be very very competitive due to some biz expansion plan for him so I will fwd the contact to sqflyer bro so he can follow up if u guys so desire.
Pse understand the 'secrecy' as this is an open forum.
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sqflyer bro pse see ur private message.
Sorry to budge in again but I found a reliable source that is willing to do certification for fujitsubo min 10 orders. The price will be very very competitive due to some biz expansion plan for him so I will fwd the contact to sqflyer bro so he can follow up if u guys so desire.
Pse understand the 'secrecy' as this is an open forum.
Cheers
sqflyer bro pse see ur private message.
05-13-2005, 07:33 AM
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EBS, thanks for the info. However, remember that diluting the vote on brands will have a negative impact on our collective haggling strength. Fujitsubo being somewhat less than ideal for auto 8s means that only manual 8s can take up the offer, leaving the auto 8s with the HKS exhaust (assuming GR really brings it in). I can't really comment on the performance of both exhausts, but I think the Fujitsubo might affect the low end torque due to it's larger diameter of 3" compared to 2.5" on the HKS. I guess I will keep the Fujitsubo option as backup unless GR doesn't fulfull their word to bring in the HKS or if all the bros with manuals want the Fujitsubo. In any case, I will collect and disseminate the costing info to all the bros who have shown interest for consideration.
05-13-2005, 08:32 AM
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Yes bro sqflyer
Do find out more abt the pricing (cos I believe to be quite significant) and also the response from the manufacturer regarding the auto RX8 incompatibility (Fuji) and whether the HKS has the same prob.
For manual bros, diff to choose between both.
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Do find out more abt the pricing (cos I believe to be quite significant) and also the response from the manufacturer regarding the auto RX8 incompatibility (Fuji) and whether the HKS has the same prob.
For manual bros, diff to choose between both.
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05-13-2005, 11:01 AM
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Gentlemen, let's decide on 1 model and just go along with it. I guess the main issue is to get the JVIA cert from japan. Most of the exhaust (Fujitsubo or HKS) only have JASMA.
EBS brother, your contact already have the JVIA for Fujitsubo?
Secondly, the certification by LTA is by model right? Auto RX8 approve does not mean manual RX8 also approve. I am also not too sure whether JDM vs MM models have any differences in approving. Think either Garage R or the Fujitsubo vendor will need to clarify this portion.
EBS brother, your contact already have the JVIA for Fujitsubo?
Secondly, the certification by LTA is by model right? Auto RX8 approve does not mean manual RX8 also approve. I am also not too sure whether JDM vs MM models have any differences in approving. Think either Garage R or the Fujitsubo vendor will need to clarify this portion.
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Yep. He's very confident to get the JVIA. He just need the order to go ahead. Bro sqflyer will be contacting him next week so get a list of questions to ask, then decide once the answer comes back.
Whatever possible prob faced by Fuji will be the same as HKS (eg are auto car make similar to manual) etc. Lets hope we get some concrete answers soon (including suitability of Fuji on auto car).
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Whatever possible prob faced by Fuji will be the same as HKS (eg are auto car make similar to manual) etc. Lets hope we get some concrete answers soon (including suitability of Fuji on auto car).
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