Manwe

Another 2 coat next session? Hahaha...hope to get about 10 coats in by end of the year :D

Neon

Cool so i get - Z1 n Claybar initial get rid of **** work. Then Z2 followed by 6 and recycle d process?

So wads the swirl remover? Z7? Guess it fits into first process?

Sori, i know u said somewhere b4, lazy to find. Thanks..

Manwe

Hi Neon,

You have wax on your car already. You need to strip it off. Use some good dishwashing detergent that can strip wax off. Hose off(do not wipe as dirt can get trapped on your cloth and get more swirl marks...i got a few...counted 4 hardly noticeable marks). Next use claybar....which is like plasticine...it will stick the dirt and other stuff off your car.
After that, wash off again. Then you can dry the car and start your polishing work. Use Z1 to coat it first. Some guys suggested some Z6 to help the polish stick better...We didn't. Up to you. You may start with Z5 to remove the swirl marks, followed by Z2 then Z6. If all marks disappeared you can skip the Z5. The Z5 have micro abrasive material or whatever that will help to remove swirls.

Oh, use a nice cotton cloth to rub off the excess polish. We used some cotton towels that Genesis bought. I just got a detailing clothe from Meguires. Works like magic. But quite costly...abt 13$.

If add Z5 you might need to spend abt 140$? Around there :D can get someone to share the clay with you and bring down cost....

Neon

Gotcha thanks.

Order = Detergent - Claybar - Z1 - Z5 - Z2 -Z6 . -_-)b?

Manwe

gotcha...

Someone swear by ZFX. They said make it cure faster so you can put 3 coats...for some extra shine. But...imo, there is no need. You wouldn't realise how tiring it is just to put 2 coats....

8citing

Does the guys in cazcomp provide the labour service as well? I'm a damn bloody lazy bum.... :p

Manwe

yes...but 100+ for one miserable coat

that price you can have enough stuff to put 10+ layers

8citing

Sounds pretty ex unless they include labour and material... Thanks for the info bro.

Manwe

yea...ex...

so it would be wiser to diy. Just join us...it is not as bad as other waxes....

8citing

Will definitely join u guys for some clean up one of these days... esp after touching up the stupid slight dent line which some inconsiderate a$$hole inflicted with his door.

Genesis

I try to avoid those dents like the plague...but inconsiderate a-holes just dun care, sry to hear of your dent. Next weekend is the interior and tyres/rims job...u can always join. Get some Zaino from Cazcomp and cmon' over

Manwe

dents i dun have...but lots of wear and tear on my tires....especially the rear...i noticed that the 8 tends to drift easily.... put some speed to turning and clutch in and it will automatically drift....

wootwoot

eh when is the next clean up session? my 8 damn freaking dirty in & out

Genesis

"Clean up" session every weekend Woot...you want to use Zaino products?

Manwe

i normally do u-turn if there is nobody at about 40km/h. Before you turn, lower to 2nd gear. Turn and just kick in the clutch and your rear will drift. You can wear slight wobbling sound due to friction. Once you are aligned with the road again, just step on throttle again and wait for beep and shift back to 3rd.... maybe next time you sit in my car and i demo....easier than explaining. It is oversteer and not understeer.

I haven't had any 4 wheel drifting...normally only rear wheels.... i am not some drift-expert nor rally driver... the drifts only occurs at sharp u-turns and right turns(especially in multi-storey carparks..hahaha)...

wootwoot

talking bout drifting... i sreech my hind-wheels while taking off from a red light... heard the sreech in my 3rd gear.... a short sreech though

sqflyer

Where were you "drifting" off to in such a hurry? .... lol :D

wootwoot

"drifting" rush to somewhere... going to be late...

Genesis

Left oversteer in my 8 on the Bayshore exit off ECP...felt it more than once...dun be walking your doggies at that corner when I'm on my way home

wootwoot

hi 8citing... i just went to cazcomp a few hrs ago & i've book a appointment for 3 coats =$150 b4 they do my car they will use mama detergent... & they will clay it & mis ZFX with it to coat

wootwoot

i also exit at Bayshore when sending my the other half home... but i dare not to try your stun!

Manwe

Yea... was at high speed. Just step on the clutch for an instance and the rear will lose traction and the car will start to drift. What you shouldn't do is to remain clutch in. Once the rear drift I would release and so I am engaged to step on throttle and be on the go again. It does'n turn ugly...in fact I need a lot of steering response to let it turn more sharply. No...it doesn't feel like roller coaster. It may be fast for corners but it is not at all fast to have roller coaster effect. All you can feel is some tire dragging on the road when the rear loses traction. In fact if you are at high speed and turn very sharply, you will tend to oversteer in the car. On rainy days it would start drifting on it's own without you doing anything....

wootwoot

woot! anywhere in singapore have the square space big enuff to show off our stuns? or try it out or not? i know of an ulu place behind the british council

Manwe

Square? No woot, try a place where you can u-turn...it is the best to practice drifting. Choose a wide road that has many lanes(not those tight ones) and with little traffic so you can pick up speed and turn without worrying abt on-coming cars. I tried on punggol road a few times. You can start by going at higher speed and suddenly turn sharply, your car will appear to go crashing to the curb(understeering) pull your handbrake and it will correct itself. I recommend braking as well after the stunt as you will not be able to do it right the first time. Try different amount of input for handbreak and you will be able to turn the car at different angle....do until you are very confident of the angle you want the next time u just have to release the handbrake after correcting the angle, step on throttle and go again. Then I'll explain or demo to you how to use the clutch to control the drift. (cluth disengage the wheels and so it causes the rear wheels to go free wheeling and thus lose traction and thus easier to drift and the handbrake locks the rear wheels and thus causes it it skid or drift). I am not very good in explanation....hope it is clear enough for you

wootwoot

wah chim! next time u show me better... i try to digest wat u explain though.. thanks anyway!