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Old 01-12-2007, 09:48 PM
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How to differentiate a 4AT and 6AT?

Hi guys, just wondering how are we able to physically differentiate a 4AT and 6AT? Is there anything that I can just look at and at one glance I will know that this is a 4AT and not a 6AT?

Actually I am asking because I've booked a 6AT but the price according to some of my friends is at a 4AT range and they said that the PI may actually be giving me a 4AT instead of a 6AT without my knowledge. Is that possible?
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Originally Posted by pointblank
Hi guys, just wondering how are we able to physically differentiate a 4AT and 6AT? Is there anything that I can just look at and at one glance I will know that this is a 4AT and not a 6AT?

Actually I am asking because I've booked a 6AT but the price according to some of my friends is at a 4AT range and they said that the PI may actually be giving me a 4AT instead of a 6AT without my knowledge. Is that possible?
When u drive, look at the digital gearing. it will go to 6 if it's 6AT.
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Hi guys, just wondering how are we able to physically differentiate a 4AT and 6AT? Is there anything that I can just look at and at one glance I will know that this is a 4AT and not a 6AT?

Actually I am asking because I've booked a 6AT but the price according to some of my friends is at a 4AT range and they said that the PI may actually be giving me a 4AT instead of a 6AT without my knowledge. Is that possible?
Hi, there no way u can tell the difference of the 4at and the 6at physically. Only when u drive and the gear went to 6. There are still a few dealer out there stuck with a 4at and are trying very hard to clear it... In fact anything that is below $95k should not b a 6At.. I guess u must have purchase the car price at somewhere between 91-92k.
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hmmm i think the newer one come stock with 2 oil coolers, but dont hold me too it.

if that is the case than just look at it from the front
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a) about 20 HP & 30lbs.
b) a third pedal
c) no paddles on the steering wheel
d) no PRND21M on the console nor the dash
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Originally Posted by Phantom Menace
a) about 20 HP & 30lbs.
b) a third pedal
c) no paddles on the steering wheel
d) no PRND21M on the console nor the dash
He's asking the diff between 4AT & 6AT, not 6MT...
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^how did you miss that
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Oh.... I guess, I'm post happy right now and missed it. That and I've been under my car for about 3 hours...My bad.
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eh it happens
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N_Rider89,
You should know I'm all 'tarded by now, main. You were giving me the "ups" on my install...
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Originally Posted by blackrider
When u drive, look at the digital gearing. it will go to 6 if it's 6AT.
Ah... this I haven't had a chance to see. Will take note of this. Thanks pal!
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Originally Posted by Jimmy(wow)
Hi, there no way u can tell the difference of the 4at and the 6at physically. Only when u drive and the gear went to 6. There are still a few dealer out there stuck with a 4at and are trying very hard to clear it... In fact anything that is below $95k should not b a 6At.. I guess u must have purchase the car price at somewhere between 91-92k.
Hi Jimmy, I think I spoke to you before, you are from WOW right?

Anyway, I wouldn't want to jump to conclusion on this matter. It is difficult to say that PI will do such things as I believe that they do have a reputation to uphold.

In the meantime, I will just try to gather information on how I can know the differences such as the shape/size of the engine block itself, etc. There are some who says that the "+" and "-" sign on the 6AT steptronic gear shift is red in colour while the 4AT's ones are black in colour. But yet I am still not sure how true is that.

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by N rider89
hmmm i think the newer one come stock with 2 oil coolers, but dont hold me too it.

if that is the case than just look at it from the front
2 oil coolers... ok will check on this too. Thanks!
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Didn't you test drive before paying the deposit?
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"There are some who says that the "+" and "-" sign on the 6AT steptronic gear shift is red in colour while the 4AT's ones are black in colour. "

Thats a myth...my 4AT looks exactly like the 6AT in this respect. Best way is to see the gear change up to 5th and 6th gear. And to the hairless ape that I am, i couldnt tell the difference between a lawn mower engine and a rotary 6 port engine if i looked at the engine bay
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Originally Posted by Goober8
Didn't you test drive before paying the deposit?
Haven't had the chance to test drive and hadn't paid any deposit for the car as yet other than the refundable deposit for the loan application and the booking for the available stock.
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Originally Posted by snowflake8888
"There are some who says that the "+" and "-" sign on the 6AT steptronic gear shift is red in colour while the 4AT's ones are black in colour. "

Thats a myth...my 4AT looks exactly like the 6AT in this respect. Best way is to see the gear change up to 5th and 6th gear. And to the hairless ape that I am, i couldnt tell the difference between a lawn mower engine and a rotary 6 port engine if i looked at the engine bay
I see... so that is not true. Thanks man!

So I guess, I will just have to get the PI state the exact model with 6AT in black & white. Till I am able to drive the car then I will be able to tell the difference. If it is indeed a 4AT instead of a 6AT then I will sure bring this case up and the PI should honour the deal and price.
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Originally Posted by pointblank
Hi guys, just wondering how are we able to physically differentiate a 4AT and 6AT? Is there anything that I can just look at and at one glance I will know that this is a 4AT and not a 6AT?

Actually I am asking because I've booked a 6AT but the price according to some of my friends is at a 4AT range and they said that the PI may actually be giving me a 4AT instead of a 6AT without my knowledge. Is that possible?
A few unique featues I spot on my 6AT, which I have not seen or may have missed out previously when looking at the 4AT. So if the 4AT bros can confirm if their car have these few features, then that may let you identify the car.

1) Remote has boot release, instead of just lock and unlock.
2) Light below side mirror when door open or door unlocked.
3) The gauges can change between Black Face red word and blue glow(like the new Mz3 SP, pic shown below) or black face white word.

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Originally Posted by Silver_Z
A few unique featues I spot on my 6AT, which I have not seen or may have missed out previously when looking at the 4AT. So if the 4AT bros can confirm if their car have these few features, then that may let you identify the car.

1) Remote has boot release, instead of just lock and unlock.
2) Light below side mirror when door open or door unlocked.
3) The gauges can change between Black Face red word and blue glow(like the new Mz3 SP, pic shown below) or black face white word.
Mine's 4AT and I have all that...
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Ohh... ok.. then i must have over looked it when i test drove the 4AT last time. So I guess the only way is to up shift till 5th gear.
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Are you not buying this car from a dealer? Have you not looked at the car? Does the car not have a MAZDA window sticker?
This tells you the options the car has.
Including transmission option. And all other options on the vehicle.
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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
Are you not buying this car from a dealer? Have you not looked at the car? Does the car not have a MAZDA window sticker?
This tells you the options the car has.
Including transmission option. And all other options on the vehicle.
not everyone is from Arizona dude...
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The 6AT has 2 oil coolers. So easiest to check. And of cos, shifts to 6th gear. The gear stick is slightly different from the 4AT. The 6AT has a silver metallic centre. 4AT does not. Other than that, really no noticeable difference.
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Originally Posted by nfs
The 6AT has 2 oil coolers. So easiest to check. And of cos, shifts to 6th gear. The gear stick is slightly different from the 4AT. The 6AT has a silver metallic centre. 4AT does not. Other than that, really no noticeable difference.
Thanks pal! These info will definitely help.
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