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Old 05-06-2006, 01:23 AM
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Hi Alvin may I ask how much is the Final gear plus the sport clutch cost? and where do we get it install in singapore?
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I think tems900 told me that Maximus had one last final drive and since EBS said he saw someone installing it, I'm guessing there is no ex-stock available in Singapore unless some workshop brought in more. I MIGHT be bringing in the final drive myself next month. HyperRev price works out to about S$1K (without installation), but that price could be outdated *shrug*. As for sports clutch, there are many different brands available with varying levels of spring pressure and different layouts of clutch plates. Really hard to advise which is appropriate as it depends on your driving style and comfort level tolerance.

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Old 05-06-2006, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sqflyer
I think tems900 told me that Maximus had one last final drive and since EBS said he saw someone installing it, I'm guessing there is no ex-stock available in Singapore unless some workshop brought in more. I MIGHT be bringing in the final drive myself next month. HyperRev price works out to about S$1K (without installation), but that price could be outdated *shrug*. As for sports clutch, there are many different brands available with varying levels of spring pressure and different layouts of clutch plates. Really hard to advise which is appropriate as it depends on your driving style and comfort level tolerance.
i will be installing the knight sports final drive...... in fact RE also has the final drive..

i believe they are rather similar, since all are 4.777.

An update for all, knight sports has a new sports cat.

HKS cat costs a cool 1.6k........
Old 05-06-2006, 11:40 PM
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Sometimes looking at the total amount spent on trying to squeeze more from NA. FI is comparatively cheaper.
Old 05-06-2006, 11:55 PM
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I agree... however, FI is comparatively more problematic and not to mention illegal. There are also a number of other things that need to be done to support FI like cooling, tuning, etc. In the long run, the increased wear on the engine and other parts may escalate the cost maintenance/repair (and potential court fees) for the FI route. Ahhh... the woes of a modder.
Old 05-07-2006, 09:20 AM
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Well. if everyone could do it then it would not be special already. And when its not special, not many people will be so interested in doing it. Life is such a vicious cycle.
Old 05-08-2006, 05:34 AM
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ATM, I find it somewhat pointless to pay good money for "special" problems. Maybe when FI becomes a more stable and viable option then I might consider it, but by that time, maybe putting the money towards a new car might be better than sinking money into an old car.
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Exactly. Thats why i change to the 8. But now the cycle begins again...
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Originally Posted by sqflyer
ATM, I find it somewhat pointless to pay good money for "special" problems. Maybe when FI becomes a more stable and viable option then I might consider it, but by that time, maybe putting the money towards a new car might be better than sinking money into an old car.
I don't think there's any issues with FI, just that the new stock Renesis wasn't design for it, internals will definitely need to be changed as well.

Further development will still be required before it can be safely said that any current bolt on kits will be stable and trouble free I guess

Anyway back to the point, Mazda designed/developed the new Renesis to avoid the usage of FI, so guess we should just stick to the Mazda principle
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[QUOTE=derekwcw]I don't think there's any issues with FI, just that the new stock Renesis wasn't design for it, internals will definitely need to be changed as well.[QUOTE]I don't mean it in a rude way... but isn't what you said like LPPL? Yes, technically nothing wrong with the FI kit itself per se, but since the Renesis and ECU wasn't designed for FI, the end result is still that not that good to FI the 8 right?
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[QUOTE=sqflyer][QUOTE=derekwcw]I don't think there's any issues with FI, just that the new stock Renesis wasn't design for it, internals will definitely need to be changed as well.
I don't mean it in a rude way... but isn't what you said like LPPL? Yes, technically nothing wrong with the FI kit itself per se, but since the Renesis and ECU wasn't designed for FI, the end result is still that not that good to FI the 8 right?
Hehehe, you are right, I too forgot to mention about the ECU on the 8

Even the piggyback ECUs that come with the FI kits don't really interface well I think
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From wat others have said and done, the interceptor x seem to be running well with the stock ecu. the KS SC kit uses back the original ecu with the addition of a boosted map so also no issue.
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Originally Posted by derekwcw
Hehehe, you are right, I too forgot to mention about the ECU on the 8

Even the piggyback ECUs that come with the FI kits don't really interface well I think
let re amemiya come to spore, do it on a couple of cars n prove u wrong.... if not u seem convinced that it will not work....... haiz...
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Bro.. You always seem the most keen and defensive on FI. Plus you have a workshop too. Install it and prove the naysayers wrong.

Btw my friend (also a friend of your mechanic) of a white wrx says your kit looks real good. And he planning to get eiher a 8 or 350z.
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Originally Posted by Emperor
Bro.. You always seem the most keen and defensive on FI. Plus you have a workshop too. Install it and prove the naysayers wrong.

Btw my friend (also a friend of your mechanic) of a white wrx says your kit looks real good. And he planning to get eiher a 8 or 350z.
defensive cos it is darn successful in japan, but becos the japs are not in the forum, and the other foreigners have tried so hard but failed terribly, everyone just deemed it a condemned product........ almost all the rotary tuners in Japan are using the GREddy Kit for their TC-ed RX8. Check out the latest hyper rev. If its so screwed up, y is everyone in japan endorsing this kit to condemn their brand name??? No logic mah....

yeah... btw, re amemiya is coming down pretty soon.... so standby for more "action"!

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Old 05-08-2006, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Emperor
Bro.. You always seem the most keen and defensive on FI. Plus you have a workshop too. Install it and prove the naysayers wrong.

Btw my friend (also a friend of your mechanic) of a white wrx says your kit looks real good. And he planning to get eiher a 8 or 350z.
ask him get an 8. Mai tu liao....
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Originally Posted by coupe07
let re amemiya come to spore, do it on a couple of cars n prove u wrong.... if not u seem convinced that it will not work....... haiz...
I don't mind being proven wrong, its another lesson learned

But I always prefer to look at both sides of the story, and not to believe totally in any one product or brand.

RE no doubt is the god of rotaries in Japan, but I too prefer to wait and see how their products perform first before just deciding that anything coming out from them is 100% problem free.

I am condemning any brand, but trying to do a FI on any car base on a stock engine that is not meant to be always prove to be a risk, I think this is a fair statement

So rather be careful, can't afford to blow a large sum of $$ on any kits that is not as yet proven 100% effective on the stock engine.
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Hope to see a RE tuned turbo 8 have a continue 5 lap of hard drive on e sepang track, maybe on 10June Rotary track day ? S'pore & Malaysia weather is a good place to test out ; Alvin will u be keen after test successfully ?

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Originally Posted by coupe07
ask him get an 8. Mai tu liao....
...and i was telling him to get the 350z if he can afford it (and sure he can); till the point like i am a nissan salesman.

But i also told him the 8 is really fantastic and he was almost drooling... We used to ride motorcycles too and i told him the rotary feels like a bike's 2-stroke.
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Originally Posted by tems900
Hope to see a RE tuned turbo 8 have a continue 5 lap of hard drive on e sepang track, maybe on 10June Rotary track day ? S'pore & Malaysia weather is a good place to test out ; Alvin will u be keen after test successfully ?
not possible.... clash of dates.....

hard drive, whack hard, no issue..... but that is after proper tuning......
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Originally Posted by coupe07
not possible.... clash of dates.....

hard drive, whack hard, no issue..... but that is after proper tuning......
I'm looking forward to see this happen....... When is Amasan coming to town???
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I'm looking forward to see this happen....... When is Amasan coming to town???
when the time comes, i will make the announcement... soon, soon....
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Originally Posted by tems900
Hope to see a RE tuned turbo 8 have a continue 5 lap of hard drive on e sepang track, maybe on 10June Rotary track day ? S'pore & Malaysia weather is a good place to test out ; Alvin will u be keen after test successfully ?
That's a good point... turbo cars can't track very long due to massive amounts of heat. Don't know how a TC'ed Renesis will hold up to our torturous heat especially on baking tarmac. NA is not a problem, as it's already been done many times but I just dunno about TC leh. Definitely must upgrade cooling system and run richer to keep our internal combustion engines combusting internally. But oso dun wanna run rich for normal driving coz I can't afford the petrol (damn it went up 9c/L again!). Juz gotta wait and see. Like I said, ATM no plans to FI at all. By the time a stable and viable option becomes available, maybe already backside itching to change car liao.
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Originally Posted by coupe07
not possible.... clash of dates.....

hard drive, whack hard, no issue..... but that is after proper tuning......

sound great & promising, No doubt RE is the truly the best in rotary & i using their intake now, 100% money back guaranteed, just whack hard
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Originally Posted by sqflyer
That's a good point... turbo cars can't track very long due to massive amounts of heat. Don't know how a TC'ed Renesis will hold up to our torturous heat especially on baking tarmac. NA is not a problem, as it's already been done many times but I just dunno about TC leh. Definitely must upgrade cooling system and run richer to keep our internal combustion engines combusting internally. But oso dun wanna run rich for normal driving coz I can't afford the petrol (damn it went up 9c/L again!). Juz gotta wait and see. Like I said, ATM no plans to FI at all. By the time a stable and viable option becomes available, maybe already backside itching to change car liao.
install 2 ARC, HKS racing oil cooler kit, bigger radiator, water spraying system with water tank in trunk, good cat pipe & cat-back Exh., Rx7 13bREW is well proven, we just need to see how the higher temp 13bMSP do it with that side Exh port. Most of the mod S15, rex, evo can complete their 5 lap race in sepang track but check on their engine, water, cat. temp, which actually still same or moderate lower than our NA8 in sepang

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