jd8

I'm getting around 7.8 to 8 km to the litre for my AT 8. Some friends said that they installed broquet in their cars and it significantly improved the fuel consumption of their cars. Was wondering anyone tried broquet or heard anything about it before I decide whether to install or not.

Any info will be appreciated. More details here: www.broquet.com.sg

CoupeM

Using it as an octane booster is ok.

CURRENT9

maybe you might want to check out this link and it tells all the stories about it in singapore usage ...

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...hlight=broquet

INXS

I guess youre simply looking for a product to lessen your FC.
Lots of products on the market, fuel cracker, fuel magnet, broquet, EPS, etc etc

The intention is to save $$ and therfore the gadget you get should be inexpensive else, itll take u months or even years to even out.

On my previous EF Sonata, i was doing about 8.5km/l. After strapping in 2 fuel magnet on my fuel line, it brought me to 11km/l after 3 tanks.. (not immediate effect)

Damage back then was about $150 per piece.

Bought it again...and strapped it on my 8.. still on my 2nd tank... will update you if u require. Damage now: $48 per piece.

lowrider

Wah... the blain is certainly most relaxed & lucid early in the morning, so here goes.....

Are Broquet and Voltage Stabaliser the two most common gadgets they people fit that seems to have non-quantifiable results? Some people say it helps, others say it doesn't make a damn difference. I am ignorant of both so I got no clear cut opinions for a change.

The core issue is fuel consumption, yes, that ol' chestnut.

IMHO, you can improve your FC through smoother driving. Thats my primary solution. How else can you explain the variances amongst us here, in terms of mileage for a tank (of 95 or 98oct gas): between 320kms upto 520kms per full tank?

Since we all usually drive daily within our little proud democratically elected , PAP lead island state there is marginal variance between the driving environment/condition (city vrs highway) between all of us.
YOu may redline it but for how long & far in S'pore can you do it for before running out of roads... and besides, i have never found it to make too much of a difference in my FC since you can never redline for long here.

The obvious discrepancy amongst all of us, is therefore the driver himself and how you drive your car ie driving style. Personally, I can't imagine that much difference technical between the MT and AT (to affect the big FC variance) ... unless it affects your driving style.

JD, how do you have a smoother driving style? Since improving your FC is an important goal, IMHO, try driving the car without stopping & going so often. The "why" is obvious with the energy loss thru brakes and heat whne braking.

"How" is the problem -- I suggest you trying driving by using the brakes a little as possible.

It maybe scary at first but it will force you to anticipate the traffic conditions more by seeing further up the road that you currently; make you more a defensive driver; and gauge how much to accelerate or not... rather that accelerating and then braking in two second later... thus less waste in energy/fuel via the brakes/tires, heat generated elsewhere from stopping motion. (Kinetic energy isn't that called?)
This doesn't mean that you drive slower, it will just make you not accelerate or redline as long -- knowing that the traffic condition will force you to brake otherwise.

Hope this helps. Borquet or voltage stabliser may help somewhat but IMHO I think the main thing is you and your driving style.

CoupeM

clap clap clap clap.....well said

INXS

Agree

Rei

Well said...the ultimate fuel saving device will always be the right foot...

SomeGuy_sg

Haha... I am with Rei :P
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...2&page=5&pp=15
There are one or two thread to fuel economy. One of them had a posting of staying under a 3750rpm while cruising as you would run 2 injectors lean, instead of all 6 injectors rich

jd8

I'm aware of the fact that driving styles affect fuel consumption and let me assure you that I don't have a very heavy right foot. Before I actually decided to buy the car, I'm fully aware of the fuel consumption of this car. I do a lot of city driving (~90%) and I can't possibly refuse to inch the car forward in a traffic jam can I? I won't be very popular on the roads then..........

I'm just looking improve the fc for my car and asking if fellow forumers have had any experience with broquet. Comments appreciated and also, thanks for the urls. I will check it out.

Emperor

Other than controlling your foot. Its really not worth the time and money to bother.

If it really works, it will be in the car already.

http://www.fuelsaving.info/index.htm

I tried them all personally.

lowrider

So if I cut me right leg shorten, I will save on FC? Less pressure on the pedal!

At any rate, the key is not to brake so often... whether you use the right leg or left to do so. (i forgot whether you use the left leg to brake or right for the AT drivers.)

When you stop using the brakes so often and shift gears appropiately, then the FC will improve.... the smooth driving thingy... barring any installation of TC or SCs kits into your car.

Rei

Great info, thanks...I have no idea abt this though I have been doing this for my
2nd tank of petrol due to running in...now I can finally figure out y the fc have been so decent for the 2nd tank...
I run abt 510km for the 2nd tank by the way...

Rei

Hahaha...if u cut ur right leg shorter...u will have the best fc coz cannot reach accelerator cannot burn petrol but will end up paying the same amt of money coz have to change the shoe for ur right foot...

Emperor

Cut leg short still got foot meh? In any case the medical bill will cost more than any fuel bill.

Just enjoy the ride man! Nowadays i drive the way i feel. Sometimes slow sometimes fast. So i get my kicks once in a while and yet have a relatively good fc.

Emperor

The 8 is alredy a good excuse to cut fuel bills; i need not give lifts to people. No space. My wife and me plus barang barang = no space (at least not for people who do not pay my petrol)

rotomotor

I agree with Lowrider's comments.... and (if I have read Emperor's thought correctly) agree with his point-of-view too that a reason for owning a RX8 is to enjoy driving it despite its unflattering FC. With no intention to flame nor malice intended, if one prioritise FC in owning a car he or she should consider buying a sporty hybrid to drive (and a RX8 to ogle at). I must emphasise that I'm not flaming anyone and I apologise for my rudeness if I have offended anyone.

Having said all that and apart from the suggested driving style (by Lowrider), FC may be reduced by: a) maintaining the car to manufacturer's specs; b) keeping the car light by removing all redundant heavy items carried in the car; c) lightening the car, such as, switching to light bucket seats for driving and using CF parts; and d) refraining from labouring the car engine when going uphill by driving in the correct gear. Driving at too low a rpm may not save fuel as the fuel map will auto-reduce the AFR to cope with the more drastic demand of torque and to prevent detonation in the engine. Some good drivers recommend driving at the rpm near "max torque" to be economical.

In regard to Broquet all I can say is that they have yet to convince every of their user to beyond any doubt of its efficacy. IMHO car makers may have found it cheaper to tackle FC issues via the ECU and car design rather than "drugging" the fuel.

Just my 2 cents worth....

INXS

Just would like to update you guys that after strapping 2 fuel magnets on my car, the immediate tank brought me to 7.95km/l. Up from 7.6km/l.

I still have my occasional sprints... no change in driving habits.
110, 120, 140....
Rev from rest at 3++ rpm...

Emperor

I am not convinced about magnets. Whether for car or for medical purposes. Why would magnets actually "align" fuel molecules, reduce emissions, etc?

If it really does align fuel molecules; why don't airlines use it and reduce fuel usage. And why don't petrol companies attached it to fuel pumps (instead of using additives or octane boosters) and sell it for a higher price like premium fuel.

And if magnets work to cure dieseases, cancers, pains, etc. Why would we need doctors? And since MRI machines pumps out thousands of times the gauss rare-earth magnets put out; MRI technicians must be very healthy people.

I tried these magnets before (bought on impulse); but when i sit down and think about it and check my mileage under controlled conditions. The only tangible result is a very light wallet. Maybe the light wallet did help my FC.

INXS

Im glad it Works for me.

- D i a b l o -

Emperor,im fitting the broquet top fueller for my 8 at home.
Ill post the updates here ok?

Just giving it a try.If the British Army use this for their vehicles.I ought to give it a fair chance and try it out.

Emperor

Bro, save the money. You paid $800 or $1200? I sold mine off after using for less than a month. How much petrol you need to save to cover it back? Get a air filter or exhuast upgrade instead.

1) They used it; during WWII
2) Why aren't they using it now
3) Why wouldn't petrol companies attach it to 92 octane pump and sell it as 95?
4) Even if they used it does not mean they endorse it or it works.
5) The dealer who sold it did not use it himself. Strange for a WRX driver who mod everything and not use the very device that he claim gives power and fuel savings.
6) Popular science did a scienctific test and the results were "surprising", all did not work.
7) Popular mechanics blog have another opinion. http://www.popularmechanics.com/blog...e/1860582.html
8) And if such devices work, we all can claim "green tax" rebates like what the govt give for green cars.
9) At least the US govt agrees http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/autos/gasave.htm

For the benefit of those who missed this. http://www.fuelsaving.info/index.htm

A mechanic who does rotary says it causes fuel to lean out. At that time i still had it installed. Went back, did some research, talk to other buddies, reason with myself. Took it out and sold it. What you may read above is part of what i have researched that convinced me to remove the cyclone, fuelmax, broquet, E32 (or whatever it was called air bleed device). So i was suckered before too.

Nowadays i rather spend my money on proven mods.

Of course, try it out and post your results here.

Emperor

I sell pills that cure <<insert your illness here>>.

Only $200 a piece. Don't let this price fool you. Since it costs so much then it will work. And if it doesn't, maybe you did something else wrong.

It may taste like tictac, smell like tictac, or look like tictac but take my word for it. It works. Even <<Insert celebrity/neighbour/friend or whoever>> says so. Even the <<Insert big corporation, govt agency, whatever sounds big>> use it.

I have research to prove it. <<Insert papers/research/etc here by so and so university or researcher; of course commissioned by me>>

You can call me at <<Insert fake office number here>> for a refund.

Disclaimer: All in jest and no harm intended. But of course, i will still sell the tictac, oops, miracle pill to whoever needs it. Only 49 left from my box of 50 i bought on the way home.

- D i a b l o -

Hmm,yea

Even if you ionised the fuel? It would make the engine run leaner? jeeeezzzzzz

They should include this in the broucher ..TKS Emperor!
LOLZ