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06-19-2003, 11:02 AM
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You nutter! :D
Am I correct in assuming that was 180MPH?
No wonder you shread tyres!
The other thing I have notice is the horrible fuel consumption that you get at high speeds.
Whenever I go for a 'run' I burn at least half a tank if not more.
In that car, you must have been in single figures!
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Am I correct in assuming that was 180MPH?
No wonder you shread tyres!
The other thing I have notice is the horrible fuel consumption that you get at high speeds.
Whenever I go for a 'run' I burn at least half a tank if not more.
In that car, you must have been in single figures!
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06-19-2003, 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by c170673
sixspeed, a word of warning, I think I have read somewhere that a motorcyclist was successfully prosecuted having filmed himself doing 175mph. The evidence used at his trial was the tape.
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sixspeed, a word of warning, I think I have read somewhere that a motorcyclist was successfully prosecuted having filmed himself doing 175mph. The evidence used at his trial was the tape.
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I would say that you would be ok if you leave the film the same except remove the very end when you can see your face.
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06-19-2003, 11:10 AM
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True, but it wasn't in this country.. (notice the driving on the right)...
Shahpor, your guess was right. Although you'll notice that was with the roof off. Still have to try it with the roof on (sure it's more aerodynamic). Not really had the chance (or maybe the nerve!) to do it again tho... lol
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Shahpor, your guess was right. Although you'll notice that was with the roof off. Still have to try it with the roof on (sure it's more aerodynamic). Not really had the chance (or maybe the nerve!) to do it again tho... lol
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06-19-2003, 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by sixspeed
True, but it wasn't in this country.. (notice the driving on the right)...
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True, but it wasn't in this country.. (notice the driving on the right)...
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In which case, never mind.
Still a nutter though! :D
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06-19-2003, 11:17 AM
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I won't be disclosing whereabouts it was done in a hurry either. :p
There is another run, with the roof on in fact, on the same site. Camera work isn't as good though, and still didn't top 180.
(not that I'd ever believe a TVR speedo.. lol)
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There is another run, with the roof on in fact, on the same site. Camera work isn't as good though, and still didn't top 180.
(not that I'd ever believe a TVR speedo.. lol)-andy-
06-19-2003, 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by sixspeed
I won't be disclosing whereabouts it was done in a hurry either. :p
There is another run, with the roof on in fact, on the same site. Camera work isn't as good though, and still didn't top 180. (not that I'd ever believe a TVR speedo.. lol)
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I won't be disclosing whereabouts it was done in a hurry either. :p
There is another run, with the roof on in fact, on the same site. Camera work isn't as good though, and still didn't top 180.
(not that I'd ever believe a TVR speedo.. lol)-andy-
Where did you get so much bandwidth from?
Some cool pictures on there as well.
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06-20-2003, 04:03 AM
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Nildram, my old ISP. They give you 50Mb space with your ADSL account, plus they're one of the fastest rated ISPs out there, so the bandwidth you get to their hosting facilities is pretty good
I'm stuck with NTL now since I moved house, but for some reason Nildram haven't removed my webspace from their servers despite the fact I no longer have an account with them. Which is nice as I've lost the password to upload all my files to my NTL space at the moment.
Anyway, I think we're digressing here. Back to tyres. Oh, on the subject of wider tyres I was looking through the RX-8 book we all get and the Mazdaspeed kit (with the Mazdaspeed wheels) comes with 245/40-18s. So I guess it probably doesn't affect the handling too badly with the wider tyres if that's what they've gone for...?
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I'm stuck with NTL now since I moved house, but for some reason Nildram haven't removed my webspace from their servers despite the fact I no longer have an account with them. Which is nice as I've lost the password to upload all my files to my NTL space at the moment.
Anyway, I think we're digressing here. Back to tyres. Oh, on the subject of wider tyres I was looking through the RX-8 book we all get and the Mazdaspeed kit (with the Mazdaspeed wheels) comes with 245/40-18s. So I guess it probably doesn't affect the handling too badly with the wider tyres if that's what they've gone for...?
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06-20-2003, 04:42 AM
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If the Mazdaspeed version has 245's fitted, then maybe it isn't too bad for handling......
As for fitting 245's to the standard wheels, does anyone know what the actual size of the wheel is?
I would think that regardless 235's would fit, not sure about 245's though.
It may help in other ways as well. If, for example, you get the 8 and think it is too tail happy (unlikely, I know) then you could possibly fit 225's to the front and 245's to the rear. This is common practice on performance rear wheel drive cars and aids neutral handling. I somehow doubt that Mazda would produce the car this way though. If looks are not important than you could always fit 245's to the front and 225's to the rear! :D Doesn't do much for the handling of the car, but I bet it would be fun! :D
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As for fitting 245's to the standard wheels, does anyone know what the actual size of the wheel is?
I would think that regardless 235's would fit, not sure about 245's though.
It may help in other ways as well. If, for example, you get the 8 and think it is too tail happy (unlikely, I know) then you could possibly fit 225's to the front and 245's to the rear. This is common practice on performance rear wheel drive cars and aids neutral handling. I somehow doubt that Mazda would produce the car this way though. If looks are not important than you could always fit 245's to the front and 225's to the rear! :D Doesn't do much for the handling of the car, but I bet it would be fun! :D
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06-20-2003, 05:13 AM
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If the size of the wheel is an 8x18, I see no reason not to go for a 245 tyre. It should be fine on there.
As for wider tyres to front than rear, I think that tends to happen when you're looking at a car which doesn't have 50:50 weight distribution (which our '8 does )
Also, although dry grip will be improved, a wider tyre will spread the weight over a bigger area (ie: less pressure on the road) which lends itself to to problems when driving in the wet and increases the chances of things like aquaplaning. All things to take into consideration...
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As for wider tyres to front than rear, I think that tends to happen when you're looking at a car which doesn't have 50:50 weight distribution (which our '8 does
)Also, although dry grip will be improved, a wider tyre will spread the weight over a bigger area (ie: less pressure on the road) which lends itself to to problems when driving in the wet and increases the chances of things like aquaplaning. All things to take into consideration...
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06-20-2003, 05:49 AM
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Originally posted by sixspeed
If the size of the wheel is an 8x18, I see no reason not to go for a 245 tyre. It should be fine on there.
As for wider tyres to front than rear, I think that tends to happen when you're looking at a car which doesn't have 50:50 weight distribution (which our '8 does )
Also, although dry grip will be improved, a wider tyre will spread the weight over a bigger area (ie: less pressure on the road) which lends itself to to problems when driving in the wet and increases the chances of things like aquaplaning. All things to take into consideration...
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If the size of the wheel is an 8x18, I see no reason not to go for a 245 tyre. It should be fine on there.
As for wider tyres to front than rear, I think that tends to happen when you're looking at a car which doesn't have 50:50 weight distribution (which our '8 does
)Also, although dry grip will be improved, a wider tyre will spread the weight over a bigger area (ie: less pressure on the road) which lends itself to to problems when driving in the wet and increases the chances of things like aquaplaning. All things to take into consideration...
-andy-
As to the wheel size, if it is 8 x 18, then I agree, 245's should have no problem fitting. It may look a bit funny though, but the only way to find that our is to try it and see.
i have to admit that if I was to change tyre, I would be tempted with the 245's, just to see what they were like....
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06-20-2003, 05:54 AM
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Me too. But I was thinking of different wheels anyway, since I'm getting the Mazdaspeed kit. So I may end up with something completely different.
I was thinking of maybe fitting some 17" wheels since it would help acceleration somewhat with a smaller wheel, albeit sacrificing a little top end. It would also likely end up with a lighter wheel which is good for handling also.
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I was thinking of maybe fitting some 17" wheels since it would help acceleration somewhat with a smaller wheel, albeit sacrificing a little top end. It would also likely end up with a lighter wheel which is good for handling also.
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06-20-2003, 05:59 AM
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Originally posted by sixspeed
Me too. But I was thinking of different wheels anyway, since I'm getting the Mazdaspeed kit. So I may end up with something completely different.
I was thinking of maybe fitting some 17" wheels since it would help acceleration somewhat with a smaller wheel, albeit sacrificing a little top end. It would also likely end up with a lighter wheel which is good for handling also.
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Me too. But I was thinking of different wheels anyway, since I'm getting the Mazdaspeed kit. So I may end up with something completely different.
I was thinking of maybe fitting some 17" wheels since it would help acceleration somewhat with a smaller wheel, albeit sacrificing a little top end. It would also likely end up with a lighter wheel which is good for handling also.
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Personally my only concern with fitting 17's is that I am not sure they would fill the arches properly.
I would gladly sacrifice the same amount of perfomance gain you are going to get from smaller wheels to aid the look of the car.
I think wheels make a hugh difference to how good a car looks.
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06-20-2003, 06:04 AM
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Originally posted by shahpor
I would gladly sacrifice the same amount of perfomance gain you are going to get from smaller wheels to aid the look of the car.
I think wheels make a hugh difference to how good a car looks.
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I would gladly sacrifice the same amount of perfomance gain you are going to get from smaller wheels to aid the look of the car.
I think wheels make a hugh difference to how good a car looks.
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06-20-2003, 06:07 AM
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I agree completely about the look of the car...
I do like the wheels that come with the car, just think they are missing something. I've been trying to find aftermarket wheels that are similar in spoke design, but with a bit more .... purpose...
Quite like these ones. Compare them to the standard wheel and they're quite similar, just with the added dish - which I think does give a car a much more purposeful look.
or maybe these (but I'd try and get them in a polished finish, rather than chrome - bit too bling for my liking..)
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I do like the wheels that come with the car, just think they are missing something. I've been trying to find aftermarket wheels that are similar in spoke design, but with a bit more .... purpose...
Quite like these ones. Compare them to the standard wheel and they're quite similar, just with the added dish - which I think does give a car a much more purposeful look.
or maybe these (but I'd try and get them in a polished finish, rather than chrome - bit too bling for my liking..)
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06-20-2003, 06:12 AM
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Nice, I like the look of them wheels.
I have to say that I think split rim wheels would look much better on the 8 anyway.
I agree with you regarding the design. I think that it would be nice to keep the five spoke look.
The only other consideration really is whether 19 inch rims would look any good.
Not too sure myself as some cars just look too silly with hugh wheels.
Still, you never know....
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I have to say that I think split rim wheels would look much better on the 8 anyway.
I agree with you regarding the design. I think that it would be nice to keep the five spoke look.
The only other consideration really is whether 19 inch rims would look any good.
Not too sure myself as some cars just look too silly with hugh wheels.
Still, you never know....
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06-20-2003, 06:12 AM
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Originally posted by sixspeed
I agree completely about the look of the car...
I do like the wheels that come with the car, just think they are missing something.
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I agree completely about the look of the car...
I do like the wheels that come with the car, just think they are missing something.
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06-20-2003, 06:17 AM
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You were right before with the wheel arch clearance. I know the car we've all seen in the UK so far has had suspension that will be higher than what we expect to get on our cars, but regardless, the wheels looked nothing like 18s when I saw it in person. Because of the size and gap in the arches for wheels, the 18s looked dwarfed, and more like 16s or 17s....
I reckon an '8 would probably look quite good with 19" wheels, but I suspect it would have quite an adverse affect on the handling of the car. It would have to be done just for looks more than anything else.
Likewise, with 17" wheels as we were discussing earlier, the car would probably need some form of lowered suspension for the car to sit and look right on them. Anyone know if the Mazdaspeed suspension kit that is on their site drops the ride height of the car? Is it an adjustable ride-height kit?
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I reckon an '8 would probably look quite good with 19" wheels, but I suspect it would have quite an adverse affect on the handling of the car. It would have to be done just for looks more than anything else.
Likewise, with 17" wheels as we were discussing earlier, the car would probably need some form of lowered suspension for the car to sit and look right on them. Anyone know if the Mazdaspeed suspension kit that is on their site drops the ride height of the car? Is it an adjustable ride-height kit?
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06-20-2003, 06:24 AM
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Just to add a difference of opinion... i thought the 18s at motorexpo were stunning. They looked in proportion to the car and purposeful. I also like the very clean design of 5 spokes , and the way they dish in the middle looked very good.
If you guys are looking for that individual look then best of luck - but I suspect it is the sort of car that will look terrible if you get it wrong !
Perhaps this is a similar discussion to "East Moons alloys - Great or Dreadful ?" in the main forum.
Might get you into Max Power though I suppose...
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If you guys are looking for that individual look then best of luck - but I suspect it is the sort of car that will look terrible if you get it wrong !
Perhaps this is a similar discussion to "East Moons alloys - Great or Dreadful ?" in the main forum.
Might get you into Max Power though I suppose...
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06-20-2003, 06:26 AM
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If Mazdaspeed don't do one, I'm sure someone else will.
Not too sure I will want to lower the 8 though, even with the arch clearance the way it is. In fact, one of the advantages of the 19 inch wheels would be a slight increase in the ride height while you move, because of less flexing in the smaller sidewall.
My current car is lowered and I have a hell of a time getting over speed bumps and pot holes. I have just found out that I have broken the down pipe on the exhaust again cause it keeps hitting the ground!
However, not lowering the car does not mean not stiffening the suspension. Now that would aid handling, well at least on smooth roads......
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Not too sure I will want to lower the 8 though, even with the arch clearance the way it is. In fact, one of the advantages of the 19 inch wheels would be a slight increase in the ride height while you move, because of less flexing in the smaller sidewall.
My current car is lowered and I have a hell of a time getting over speed bumps and pot holes. I have just found out that I have broken the down pipe on the exhaust again cause it keeps hitting the ground!
However, not lowering the car does not mean not stiffening the suspension. Now that would aid handling, well at least on smooth roads......
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06-20-2003, 06:29 AM
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Morgan,
I don't disagree with you. I thought the wheels were perfectly proportioned. When I said they were dwarfed I meant that they didn't look as big as an 18" wheel, I guess because it was all proportioned so well, and the '8 still looks like a fairly sleek, compact car.
That's why I was saying that a 17" wheel would probably require an adjustment to the suspension to sit and look right.
I do quite like the wheels on it...that's the reason the wheels I've been looking at to replace them follow a very similar spoke design. I guess it's just the whole individuality thing that makes me want to change them, and is also the reason why I'm having the Mazdaspeed kit fitted.
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I don't disagree with you. I thought the wheels were perfectly proportioned. When I said they were dwarfed I meant that they didn't look as big as an 18" wheel, I guess because it was all proportioned so well, and the '8 still looks like a fairly sleek, compact car.
That's why I was saying that a 17" wheel would probably require an adjustment to the suspension to sit and look right.
I do quite like the wheels on it...that's the reason the wheels I've been looking at to replace them follow a very similar spoke design. I guess it's just the whole individuality thing that makes me want to change them, and is also the reason why I'm having the Mazdaspeed kit fitted.
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06-20-2003, 06:34 AM
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Originally posted by shahpor
If Mazdaspeed don't do one, I'm sure someone else will.
Not too sure I will want to lower the 8 though, even with the arch clearance the way it is. In fact, one of the advantages of the 19 inch wheels would be a slight increase in the ride height while you move, because of less flexing in the smaller sidewall.
My current car is lowered and I have a hell of a time getting over speed bumps and pot holes. I have just found out that I have broken the down pipe on the exhaust again cause it keeps hitting the ground!
However, not lowering the car does not mean not stiffening the suspension. Now that would aid handling, well at least on smooth roads......
Shahpor
If Mazdaspeed don't do one, I'm sure someone else will.
Not too sure I will want to lower the 8 though, even with the arch clearance the way it is. In fact, one of the advantages of the 19 inch wheels would be a slight increase in the ride height while you move, because of less flexing in the smaller sidewall.
My current car is lowered and I have a hell of a time getting over speed bumps and pot holes. I have just found out that I have broken the down pipe on the exhaust again cause it keeps hitting the ground!
However, not lowering the car does not mean not stiffening the suspension. Now that would aid handling, well at least on smooth roads......
Shahpor
Lol. Did you not see the pictures of my G40 on the website? :p
I must admit it's been lowered purely for looks. The ride is terrible, and I partly wish I'd never done it. It doesn't help that it's been done with some cheapish springs. A set of coilover suspension would leave the car as low as it is and give it a far smoother ride.
That doesn't help with speedbumps though. And I have the same problems you do. Luckily I have a mate that works at a custom exhaust place as I have had to have the exhaust re-worked on it twice now from catching it on the ground. Oh well, it'll be going soon in place the of the RX - which I have no intention of making as impractical as the little VW!
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06-20-2003, 06:43 AM
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Originally posted by sixspeed
Lol. Did you not see the pictures of my G40 on the website? :p
I must admit it's been lowered purely for looks. The ride is terrible, and I partly wish I'd never done it. It doesn't help that it's been done with some cheapish springs. A set of coilover suspension would leave the car as low as it is and give it a far smoother ride.
That doesn't help with speedbumps though. And I have the same problems you do. Luckily I have a mate that works at a custom exhaust place as I have had to have the exhaust re-worked on it twice now from catching it on the ground. Oh well, it'll be going soon in place the of the RX - which I have no intention of making as impractical as the little VW!
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Lol. Did you not see the pictures of my G40 on the website? :p
I must admit it's been lowered purely for looks. The ride is terrible, and I partly wish I'd never done it. It doesn't help that it's been done with some cheapish springs. A set of coilover suspension would leave the car as low as it is and give it a far smoother ride.
That doesn't help with speedbumps though. And I have the same problems you do. Luckily I have a mate that works at a custom exhaust place as I have had to have the exhaust re-worked on it twice now from catching it on the ground. Oh well, it'll be going soon in place the of the RX - which I have no intention of making as impractical as the little VW!
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My brother has a set of coilovers on his car and my god does it handle! On a smooth bit of tarmac very few cars can keep up with him!
Still each to his own.....
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