Monaro vs. RX-8
11-07-2003, 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by Edo
I am sure it will appear under a different name. Bets on the name?
I am sure it will appear under a different name. Bets on the name?
Or am I talking poopoo???
11-07-2003, 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by specman
I thought that the IP address could be blocked so for the person to get back on they would have to get another connection??
Or am I talking poopoo???
I thought that the IP address could be blocked so for the person to get back on they would have to get another connection??
Or am I talking poopoo???
11-07-2003, 11:24 AM
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Sad, really really sad.
Not rx8sucks, all the guys who get so hyped up so quickly and so easily.
This is a forum to discuss RX-8. Good points AND bad points. We are all very happy comparing it to other cars when it suits us, but get so intolerant as soon as someone says our toy is not the bestest in the whole world.
Calm down guys, it does not matter if she was right or wrong (and pretty much wrong). The point is, she came up with some argument, and you guys just lost all perspective.
And I just cannot work out why she (actually I am not convinced it was a she) was banned. I thought the moderator's job is to moderate, not to pay lip service to intolerant kids.
Apologies if I have offended people here - and go ahead, ban me too. But please, I want to be proud of my car, but not kill anyone who says it is not perfect. I and certainly don't want to be amongst those who do.
Not rx8sucks, all the guys who get so hyped up so quickly and so easily.
This is a forum to discuss RX-8. Good points AND bad points. We are all very happy comparing it to other cars when it suits us, but get so intolerant as soon as someone says our toy is not the bestest in the whole world.
Calm down guys, it does not matter if she was right or wrong (and pretty much wrong). The point is, she came up with some argument, and you guys just lost all perspective.
And I just cannot work out why she (actually I am not convinced it was a she) was banned. I thought the moderator's job is to moderate, not to pay lip service to intolerant kids.
Apologies if I have offended people here - and go ahead, ban me too. But please, I want to be proud of my car, but not kill anyone who says it is not perfect. I and certainly don't want to be amongst those who do.
11-07-2003, 11:37 AM
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I think your missing the point Jackel. Rx8sucks name and comments were just childish and immature. Anyone is welcome is post in this forum and any constructive arguments can be just that, a constructive argument.
11-07-2003, 11:38 AM
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Jackel,
You would have to have read the "Delivery Date" thread before it was cleaned out to get a true perspective on this.
Rxate-sucks contributions consisted of petty and purile posts and insults, aimed at other forum members, not the car.
Having been all but ignored after a short while on that thread, he/she then started this one, by which time all his/her credibility was lost and sniping from him/her continued.
I visit a few forums on the web and without a doubt this is one of the friendliest and tolerant of "other" opinions as well as one of the most sensibly moderated.
Nobody was "killed", just someone hellbent on trolling prevented from returning.
You would have to have read the "Delivery Date" thread before it was cleaned out to get a true perspective on this.
Rxate-sucks contributions consisted of petty and purile posts and insults, aimed at other forum members, not the car.
Having been all but ignored after a short while on that thread, he/she then started this one, by which time all his/her credibility was lost and sniping from him/her continued.
I visit a few forums on the web and without a doubt this is one of the friendliest and tolerant of "other" opinions as well as one of the most sensibly moderated.
Nobody was "killed", just someone hellbent on trolling prevented from returning.
11-07-2003, 11:45 AM
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here here.
Shame he/she never actually returned our arguments, just acknowledged that there were some good points made?! What was that, admission of talking nonsense?
Vauxhall eh? If it's half the car the Lotus Carlton was then it will be a welcome addition to our roads.
R.I.P.
Shame he/she never actually returned our arguments, just acknowledged that there were some good points made?! What was that, admission of talking nonsense?
Vauxhall eh? If it's half the car the Lotus Carlton was then it will be a welcome addition to our roads.
R.I.P.
11-07-2003, 12:53 PM
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Jackel.
Users are never banned simply for disagreeing with the majority. It would be a sad forum indeed if we all just agreed with each other. rx8sucks is the first, and so far only, forum member that I have asked to have removed. Her posts in the Delivery Date thread were childish, uniformed and insulting.
She was send a PM asking her to tone down her attitude and invited to actually contribute to the forum. She chose to continue posting inflaming rubbish. Most of those posts have already been removed, along with others responses.
If you look in the general discussion forums you will see several members who do not own an RX-8 and don't intend buying one because they don't like it. But they contribute positively to the discussions on the subject.
rx8sucks contributed nothing, and antagonised a lot of people in only one day.
Sometimes people join forums just to wind people up. They are trolls and they get removed.
As long as you stick to the T&Cs (which do not require undying loyalty to the RX-8) you are very welcome here.
Users are never banned simply for disagreeing with the majority. It would be a sad forum indeed if we all just agreed with each other. rx8sucks is the first, and so far only, forum member that I have asked to have removed. Her posts in the Delivery Date thread were childish, uniformed and insulting.
She was send a PM asking her to tone down her attitude and invited to actually contribute to the forum. She chose to continue posting inflaming rubbish. Most of those posts have already been removed, along with others responses.
If you look in the general discussion forums you will see several members who do not own an RX-8 and don't intend buying one because they don't like it. But they contribute positively to the discussions on the subject.
rx8sucks contributed nothing, and antagonised a lot of people in only one day.
Sometimes people join forums just to wind people up. They are trolls and they get removed.
As long as you stick to the T&Cs (which do not require undying loyalty to the RX-8) you are very welcome here.
11-07-2003, 05:17 PM
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Just remember, Vauxhall managed for the first time in history to put one decent car in their line up (although it was made by Lotus) and they advertise it with Griff Reece Jones in his underpants. Even if the VX220 was solid gold, you could never get that image out of your mind.
Cheers
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11-08-2003, 06:35 AM
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The Monaro isn't such a bad car compared to the rest of the stuff built in Australia. But our market offers very poor cars compared to the rest of the world.
Anyone can stuff a big engine in a car.
Holden's are tanks, but they do suit a lot of Australian requirements.
The RX8 is unique and well balanced car. The Monaro is a family sedan with 2 doors deleted and stiffened suspension.
Anyone can stuff a big engine in a car.
Holden's are tanks, but they do suit a lot of Australian requirements.
The RX8 is unique and well balanced car. The Monaro is a family sedan with 2 doors deleted and stiffened suspension.
11-08-2003, 03:13 PM
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What's the Oz leather pack, Kangaroo skin??????? if so with or without the pouch. I would not be suprised if all the leather upholstery in our cars isn't from Oz
11-28-2003, 05:02 AM
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Actually Australian cars are pretty good, their quality have dramatically been improved especailly in recent years, look at the BA ford falcon and VY holdens. Quality, durability, ergonomics, and aesthetics of these two cars are nearly on par with Europen cars. Future holdens and fords should narrow the gap or even surpass the Europens (of similar prices).
I dont think the RX8 is on par with the GTO (price, comfort aesthetics) however I have always respected the R (excellent fit and finish, sturdy, and a joy of a car to drive). I also dont believe people buying the RX8 and GTO would look at the other product (different needs). However a true car guy would/should always respect these two quality products.
I have seen the monaro in person (many in Aust) and loved the exterior. The monaro's exterior and interior design is more Euro. For me it doesn't look like a GP, GA or any other American car (people should get their eyes checked).
I dont think the RX8 is on par with the GTO (price, comfort aesthetics) however I have always respected the R (excellent fit and finish, sturdy, and a joy of a car to drive). I also dont believe people buying the RX8 and GTO would look at the other product (different needs). However a true car guy would/should always respect these two quality products.
I have seen the monaro in person (many in Aust) and loved the exterior. The monaro's exterior and interior design is more Euro. For me it doesn't look like a GP, GA or any other American car (people should get their eyes checked).
11-28-2003, 05:09 AM
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The monaro in Aust is an icon. It's history and racing pedigree is richer than the GTO. The monaro (old and new) has won numerous races including bathurst in the 70's, bathurst 24 hr (03 and 04), targa tasmania, etc. During its time the monaro raced against the fastest 4 door car in the world, the ford GTHO phase 3.
I know that the GTO is Ameicas original MUSCLE car but it really annoys me when people bag Australias original MUSCLE car just to prove to everyone how great the GTO was.
I know that the GTO is Ameicas original MUSCLE car but it really annoys me when people bag Australias original MUSCLE car just to prove to everyone how great the GTO was.
11-30-2003, 04:07 AM
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the rxate is a great car rxate, but serves a totally different purpose from that of the RX8. My sig says monaro******* but I like good cars first (probably why I like the BA falcon).
Also on the Vauxhill monaro. The monaro is going to be raced in Leman and N-GT races in Europe as a vauxhill. The team using the monaro is Emotional engineering and should be very quick (N-GT allows changes to boy parts i.e. carbon fibre etc., therefore a drastic weight reduction for the monaro)
People stop attacking her (rx8sucks), its better to have constructive criticism.
Also on the Vauxhill monaro. The monaro is going to be raced in Leman and N-GT races in Europe as a vauxhill. The team using the monaro is Emotional engineering and should be very quick (N-GT allows changes to boy parts i.e. carbon fibre etc., therefore a drastic weight reduction for the monaro)
People stop attacking her (rx8sucks), its better to have constructive criticism.