I for one am really dissappointed....
05-22-2003, 05:20 AM
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I for one still want this car.
The fact is, it suits my needs and is without doubt a very original and stunning looking motor car.
I'm looking forward to all the positive elements of the RX8 and am somewhat ignoring the negative vibes. Maybe my faith in Mazda is misplaced but I'll find out soon enough.
It still represents great value for money:D
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Oilman
The fact is, it suits my needs and is without doubt a very original and stunning looking motor car.
I'm looking forward to all the positive elements of the RX8 and am somewhat ignoring the negative vibes. Maybe my faith in Mazda is misplaced but I'll find out soon enough.
It still represents great value for money:D
Cheers
Oilman
05-22-2003, 05:27 AM
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Looks like I'm gona put my deposit down next weekend..
My brother in law has said it looks a good car (hasnt seen it tho) and he'd know of any real horror stories (Ford group designer).
Heh Shame his 'Privalige' discount scheme doesnt include the RX-8
My brother in law has said it looks a good car (hasnt seen it tho) and he'd know of any real horror stories (Ford group designer).
Heh Shame his 'Privalige' discount scheme doesnt include the RX-8
05-22-2003, 07:18 AM
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I'm stilll keen. It is inevitable that some people will be getting a bit edgy - some of us have had the car on order for four months and have yet to see one in the metal.
Regarding delivery dates, this may sound a bit harsh but I really don't think we should be too surprised if we're told first deliveries will take place in July/August and it turns out to be September. I don't buy many new cars but this is pretty much what I expected from the start.
Regarding whether it is a good car or not, I think we have to defer to the people who have already taken delivery (particularly JSG, given his recent S2000 experience). I honestly don't think the Jap spec cars will be in a different performance league to those in the UK, regardless of what the stats look like.
One final point - I am prepared for some disappointment at Canary Wharf etc as I have a suspicion that the car on show will be a fairly tired looking pre-production model.
No doubt we'll all be more reassured when we've had a chance to look at a proper production car.
Regarding delivery dates, this may sound a bit harsh but I really don't think we should be too surprised if we're told first deliveries will take place in July/August and it turns out to be September. I don't buy many new cars but this is pretty much what I expected from the start.
Regarding whether it is a good car or not, I think we have to defer to the people who have already taken delivery (particularly JSG, given his recent S2000 experience). I honestly don't think the Jap spec cars will be in a different performance league to those in the UK, regardless of what the stats look like.
One final point - I am prepared for some disappointment at Canary Wharf etc as I have a suspicion that the car on show will be a fairly tired looking pre-production model.
No doubt we'll all be more reassured when we've had a chance to look at a proper production car.
05-22-2003, 07:24 AM
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I am hoping for a spangly new Titanium with cloth interior at Canary Wharf !
Taking day off on the 3rd to go see it....
(suspect it'll be blue with 'FORMULA WOMAN' plastered all over it ! AAGGGHhhhh)
M.
Taking day off on the 3rd to go see it....
(suspect it'll be blue with 'FORMULA WOMAN' plastered all over it ! AAGGGHhhhh)
M.
05-22-2003, 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by morganrogers
I am hoping for a spangly new Titanium with cloth interior at Canary Wharf !
Taking day off on the 3rd to go see it....
(suspect it'll be blue with 'FORMULA WOMAN' plastered all over it ! AAGGGHhhhh)
M.
I am hoping for a spangly new Titanium with cloth interior at Canary Wharf !
Taking day off on the 3rd to go see it....
(suspect it'll be blue with 'FORMULA WOMAN' plastered all over it ! AAGGGHhhhh)
M.
05-24-2003, 01:03 PM
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There is only one Japanese specification car in the UK and it's blue with cloth seats. That's the one that will be at the MotorExpo: I asked. Don't knock it though, I love it and it doesn't have 'Formula Woman' anywhere near it. 
05-30-2003, 04:21 AM
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Re: I for one am really dissappointed....
Originally posted by MarkW
With reference to Morgans thread, a lot of the points made are really valid.
I REALLY REALLY want to like this car, and I have spent the last 4 months thinking about little else.
I have spent a fair bit of time exchanging opinions with you all and have found it both interesting and entertaining.
I have so many bloody photo's Ive lost count.
I still love:
The unique design and shape
The reported good handling
The 9000rpm redline
The suicide doors
The interior (black/red mmmmmm!)
The Bose Stereo
The high spec 18"s/Xenons etc
Velocity Red :D
We all have our own criteria, and we all narrowed it down to decide that this was the car for us. We have all put our faith in Mazda and placed our deposits.
However, certain things now appear to have changed. How this affects each of us individually depends upon our criteria as to how we got here in the first place.
For some people, the changes may not be high on their criteria, and whilst disappointed, it will not effect their decision to buy the car. (Morgan, Oilman - Im sure you will be happy ).
For others, myself included, we are being forced to reconsider how we got here in the first place.
Now I can only speak for myself, but there are 3 key things that drew me to this car:
1. It is unique and looks gorgeous (IMHO)
2. The handling and performance vs price
3. Potential high residuals of pre-ordering
Now 1 is a given, but 2 and 3 have been seriously compromised.
With regard to performance, I was sold on a 240bhp lightweight car (1300kg) with a 0-60 in the low 6's. You know the rest. Coming from a 265bhp Impreza, I was prepared to make compromises on out and out performance but only to a point. I dont really want to be mixing it with the Warm/Hot hatches of this world.
With regard to residuals there are no facts, but the signs dont look good. The What Car figures may be wrong, but are you prepared to take a gamble on £8000 in 12 months? Other figures show less than a 1000 pre-orders of the 3500 cars available this year. If there are no supply/demand issues I cant see prices holding well.
Also there is the issue of a 2 month delivery delay. Whilst not really a issue to many, this causes me a problem.
Before the end of August for my current car I need to buy 4 new tyres (£600), Service (£200), Road Tax (£160-Yes I can reclaim it) and Tracker (£130). I was hoping to avoid these costs by taking delivery in July / August.
I have really thought long and hard about this over the last few days, and I think it is now most likely I wont go ahead.
If I could still have the car I thought I was ordering in January I would have no problem. I am so dissappointed in having to make this decision it is untrue.
However, I am going to wait for the letter we are allegedly getting next week and see what it says.
I also am not going to cancel my order yet as I may as well leave my deposit in a while longer as I am in no rush for the money back.
If I do cancel then I am wondering if there is any mileage in selling my pre-order, and my reg plate will also have to go up for sale.
Sorry this has turned into war and peace if youve got this far well done.
I really am not dissing the RX-8, it is a GREAT car and you will all be very happy with it, I just dont think it is the car for me any more.
I know I am going to be kicking myself everytime I see one from September though, driving round in my ugly Impreza At least I will only see them in my rear view mirror as I pass them :D
If residuals are as predicted by what car, I'll buy one of yours next year for £14k.
Is there an award for the worlds longest post...........
With reference to Morgans thread, a lot of the points made are really valid.
I REALLY REALLY want to like this car, and I have spent the last 4 months thinking about little else.
I have spent a fair bit of time exchanging opinions with you all and have found it both interesting and entertaining.
I have so many bloody photo's Ive lost count.
I still love:
The unique design and shape
The reported good handling
The 9000rpm redline
The suicide doors
The interior (black/red mmmmmm!)
The Bose Stereo
The high spec 18"s/Xenons etc
Velocity Red :D
We all have our own criteria, and we all narrowed it down to decide that this was the car for us. We have all put our faith in Mazda and placed our deposits.
However, certain things now appear to have changed. How this affects each of us individually depends upon our criteria as to how we got here in the first place.
For some people, the changes may not be high on their criteria, and whilst disappointed, it will not effect their decision to buy the car. (Morgan, Oilman - Im sure you will be happy
).For others, myself included, we are being forced to reconsider how we got here in the first place.
Now I can only speak for myself, but there are 3 key things that drew me to this car:
1. It is unique and looks gorgeous (IMHO)
2. The handling and performance vs price
3. Potential high residuals of pre-ordering
Now 1 is a given, but 2 and 3 have been seriously compromised.
With regard to performance, I was sold on a 240bhp lightweight car (1300kg) with a 0-60 in the low 6's. You know the rest. Coming from a 265bhp Impreza, I was prepared to make compromises on out and out performance but only to a point. I dont really want to be mixing it with the Warm/Hot hatches of this world.
With regard to residuals there are no facts, but the signs dont look good. The What Car figures may be wrong, but are you prepared to take a gamble on £8000 in 12 months? Other figures show less than a 1000 pre-orders of the 3500 cars available this year. If there are no supply/demand issues I cant see prices holding well.
Also there is the issue of a 2 month delivery delay. Whilst not really a issue to many, this causes me a problem.
Before the end of August for my current car I need to buy 4 new tyres (£600), Service (£200), Road Tax (£160-Yes I can reclaim it) and Tracker (£130). I was hoping to avoid these costs by taking delivery in July / August.
I have really thought long and hard about this over the last few days, and I think it is now most likely I wont go ahead.
If I could still have the car I thought I was ordering in January I would have no problem. I am so dissappointed in having to make this decision it is untrue.
However, I am going to wait for the letter we are allegedly getting next week and see what it says.
I also am not going to cancel my order yet as I may as well leave my deposit in a while longer as I am in no rush for the money back.
If I do cancel then I am wondering if there is any mileage in selling my pre-order, and my reg plate will also have to go up for sale.
Sorry this has turned into war and peace if youve got this far well done.
I really am not dissing the RX-8, it is a GREAT car and you will all be very happy with it, I just dont think it is the car for me any more.
I know I am going to be kicking myself everytime I see one from September though, driving round in my ugly Impreza
At least I will only see them in my rear view mirror as I pass them :DIf residuals are as predicted by what car, I'll buy one of yours next year for £14k.
Is there an award for the worlds longest post...........
I don't understand all this negativity. So the reduction is PS and the fact that it may be late so what. Sell your Impreza and buy a runabout till then!
I just can't wait to drive the most talked about motor car this year and until they are on the roads not many people will invest. I reckon that all 3,000 will be gone by the end of the year and the resale value will be nowhere near your quotes.
I am very optimistic about this car and the british reaction towards it.
At the price there is nothing that can come close.
05-30-2003, 06:10 AM
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I don't understand all this negativity. So the reduction is PS and the fact that it may be late so what
As Ive said, Im not cancelling yet, I'll wait for all the facts/figures to come out and I really want to see/drive the car before I decide either way.
Nothing would make me happier than to be blown away by a test drive though :D