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Highway8 08-31-2011 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by Blacknightz (Post 4048980)
Would love to hear thoughts and explanations on this throttle body...

I dont think anybody is answering because they dont know how to answer in a nice way or they dont think the question deserves an answer.

The design makes no sense. Having 4 small oppenings instead of 1 large will result in a reduction in available airflow.

Even if you could flow more air with that throttle body, there is no need for it. The throttle body has never been shown to have any measurable restriction in the intake system. If you beleive that the stock throttle body is restritive, Brian at BDC can port and polish your stock throttle body or sell you one and you send him your as a core.

Highway8 08-31-2011 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by cavemancan (Post 4067732)
Chris,

You don't think an upgraded radiator, oil coolers, or water pump is essential when getting any turbo? It just seems to me that engine temps are essential for performance and reliability. I do realize the water/meth system aids in this endevor but what about the above mentioned parts?

I just find it hard to believe no additional cooling is required.

Regards,

Chris

I will help here.

Additional cooling required? NO, recommended for warm climents or for spirited driving, Yes. Required for track use, Yes.

Any time you add additional power and especialy with adding FI and an intercooler blocking radiator airflow, you will need additional cooling for extended high loads. Its simple, more power equals more heat. However, if like most people, you will just use the extra power to accelerate onto the freeway or from light to light, the stock system will be just fine.

If you do upgrade the coolign system, a water pump, modified fan turn on points and a secondary radiator are the best things you can do.

f you do a top mount intercooler, you can get away without the secondary radiator.

Stock oil coolers work well for most people.

cavemancan 09-01-2011 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Highway8 (Post 4067794)
I will help here.

Additional cooling required? NO, recommended for warm climents or for spirited driving, Yes. Required for track use, Yes.

Any time you add additional power and especialy with adding FI and an intercooler blocking radiator airflow, you will need additional cooling for extended high loads. Its simple, more power equals more heat. However, if like most people, you will just use the extra power to accelerate onto the freeway or from light to light, the stock system will be just fine.

If you do upgrade the coolign system, a water pump, modified fan turn on points and a secondary radiator are the best things you can do.

f you do a top mount intercooler, you can get away without the secondary radiator.

Stock oil coolers work well for most people.

My problem is I made an assumption...That anyone who owns a Rotary (on this forum) usually spend 90% of the time with the accelorator pedal attached to the firewall. Not to mention I've seen tons of people demonstrating possible cooling issues on an NA setup. So considering the above and the fact that rotaries naturally run hot I deduced with limited information that an upgrade to cooling was necessary.

Either way I will need to get this done due to my future track day plans.

Blacknightz 09-05-2011 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by Highway8 (Post 4067783)
I dont think anybody is answering because they dont know how to answer in a nice way or they dont think the question deserves an answer.

The design makes no sense. Having 4 small oppenings instead of 1 large will result in a reduction in available airflow.

Even if you could flow more air with that throttle body, there is no need for it. The throttle body has never been shown to have any measurable restriction in the intake system. If you beleive that the stock throttle body is restritive, Brian at BDC can port and polish your stock throttle body or sell you one and you send him your as a core.


Roger...

Hope to get some response soon from Esmeril...

Coty Melancon 09-11-2011 07:30 AM

I'm still waiting on my kit to arrive. Gotta call them tomorrow and see an estimated date. Damn ball bearing turbo was on back order. As soon as I get it, I will make a build thread and have tons of pics to show it.

VERSUS4582 09-12-2011 02:27 AM


As soon as I get it, I will make a build thread and have tons of pics to show it.
We are hoping you are gonna do that because we are also interested on that standard kit !!! ;)

Blacknightz 09-15-2011 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by Coty Melancon (Post 4075661)
I'm still waiting on my kit to arrive. Gotta call them tomorrow and see an estimated date. Damn ball bearing turbo was on back order. As soon as I get it, I will make a build thread and have tons of pics to show it.


Is it the standard kit with the accesssport option?


Do post the link once you have it up ! :yumyum:

MarkAngelo 09-15-2011 04:49 PM

Compatible with Automatic Transmission models?
 
Hello,

Are any of your Esmeril turbo kits compatible with Automatic Transmission models?

Also, when in the future do you think you'll have the different intake piping to work properly with the COBB Access port?

I'm very interested in purchasing your kit.

Thank you,
Mark

jimtaylor89 10-16-2011 09:29 PM

dose any one here have the "full" kit instead of the "street" kit that i can ask questions to??

mwall 10-18-2011 09:30 PM

i wouldnt recommend going with this kit. i waited well over the time period and still missing parts. and they arnt responding to my emails or phone calls

Blacknightz 10-19-2011 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by mwall (Post 4104945)
i wouldnt recommend going with this kit. i waited well over the time period and still missing parts. and they arnt responding to my emails or phone calls


WTF....


How long was the wait?

Did u pay by paypal? IF u did, u could get ur money back...

EsmerilRacing 10-20-2011 09:24 AM

We have contacted mwall and taken care of the missing item. His emails were not getting through for some reason.

A MAF pipe will be shipped out today.

Best regards,

Chris

paulmasoner 10-20-2011 11:02 AM

why dont you guys change your email provider already, was that so hard? how many years do you need to have continual issues before someone thinks of this? Of course it can and will always still happen occasionally, but when its a pattern, even a thin one, it would be in your best interest as a business to address that I would think

VERSUS4582 10-21-2011 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by paulmasoner (Post 4106216)
why dont you guys change your email provider already, was that so hard? how many years do you need to have continual issues before someone thinks of this? Of course it can and will always still happen occasionally, but when its a pattern, even a thin one, it would be in your best interest as a business to address that I would think

Couldn't agree more !!!! Pls take that comment into serious consderation ...

What do you mean maf pipe??? You mean are now COBB Accessport compatible ??If so why not update us earlier ?If you have but i missed i apologize in advance ...

Blacknightz 10-22-2011 03:36 PM

waitingz for the next milennia response...

VERSUS4582 10-23-2011 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by Blacknightz (Post 4108095)
waitingz for the next milennia response...

So it seems .... This is a negative factor for those interested to go the esmeril way ... Seeing that late replies,or no repilies at all,someone starts thinking negatively ....

Xclusive_40thAnvRx8 10-24-2011 12:40 AM

so iv been looking at your turbo kits and i cant decide which i should get The new Standard one or the HP turbo version 4. The local Rotary shop here says yall are the best! and they have been doing rotary's for about 17 years

voicesinmyleg 11-17-2011 09:41 AM

has anyone else whos bought the turbo kit, or anything from them also get a shipping number, but ups still hasnt gotten that package???

VERSUS4582 11-18-2011 03:20 AM


Originally Posted by voicesinmyleg (Post 4127065)
has anyone else whos bought the turbo kit, or anything from them also get a shipping number, but ups still hasnt gotten that package???

Did that happen to you???

Blacknightz 11-18-2011 05:01 AM

Oh manz.......

mwall 11-18-2011 08:41 PM

email them like 100 times a day and they will get back to you. thats what i had to do. i have the kit about 99% done. just need to fix a few minor leaks

voicesinmyleg 11-22-2011 04:05 PM

...so i just got the box....only one box... tell me this has also happened....

bcsoswat07 11-22-2011 10:50 PM

do not buy anything from esmeril racing or mazdaparts.com!!! I gave them $3,500 through pay pal, had a family emergency and needed a refund, and it took them 2 months to get me $1,500. I am still waiting for my $2,000 and the money was transferred in april of this year!!! Please do not make the same mistake i did, and do not buy from them! I am currently in the process of getting my money back through the legal system.

Blacknightz 11-23-2011 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by bcsoswat07 (Post 4131026)
do not buy anything from esmeril racing or mazdaparts.com!!! I gave them $3,500 through pay pal, had a family emergency and needed a refund, and it took them 2 months to get me $1,500. I am still waiting for my $2,000 and the money was transferred in april of this year!!! Please do not make the same mistake i did, and do not buy from them! I am currently in the process of getting my money back through the legal system.


Noted....

And a million thanks for the heads up...



Well... One more hope goes down the drain...

EsmerilRacing 11-23-2011 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by bcsoswat07 (Post 4131026)
do not buy anything from esmeril racing or mazdaparts.com!!! I gave them $3,500 through pay pal, had a family emergency and needed a refund, and it took them 2 months to get me $1,500. I am still waiting for my $2,000 and the money was transferred in april of this year!!! Please do not make the same mistake i did, and do not buy from them! I am currently in the process of getting my money back through the legal system.

This customer ordered a kit and after a few months canceled it. We initiated a refund. If there is something that remains unresolved please PM me so we can take care of it...we have not heard of this until today.

As for the guy who received one box...there is two boxes for each turbo kit! Please PM me as they were in the same shipment and should have arrived together!

As for one of our retailers (MP.com) they receive thousands of emails a day and are in the process of switching owners who plan on overhauling the site to prevent communication delays (like a customer management system built in instead of just email comm.). I will have the new owner introduce herself once all the changes are made as she wants the site to have a presence on the forum.

Best Regards,

Chris

Blacknightz 11-24-2011 03:18 AM

ups for new hopes !!!


so what about the Accessport development?

bcsoswat07 11-27-2011 10:51 PM

Still no reply from Esmeril. I'd like to get some answers Christian... Check your pm's for my cell phone number.

EsmerilRacing 11-28-2011 05:39 PM

We promised a reply by today, it was thanksgiving week last week. Check your PM's.

Thanks.

Chris

voicesinmyleg 11-29-2011 10:58 AM

Umm I Pms you and emailed you and called....and my box is still not shipped

Blacknightz 11-30-2011 02:55 AM


Originally Posted by voicesinmyleg (Post 4134490)
Umm I Pms you and emailed you and called....and my box is still not shipped


Didnt he said it was thanksgiving?

voicesinmyleg 11-30-2011 06:53 AM

I wrote this because my boxes were supposed to be shipped on the 4th of november and its the 30th now

bcsoswat07 12-01-2011 09:32 PM

I was also promised "refund payment initiated" this week, which means I should receive my refund by? I replied with my correct paypal address, the one you sent is not correct.

unknown__Disciple 12-02-2011 05:24 PM

wow all this complaining about not being able to get parts is starting to scare me.

EsmerilRacing 12-09-2011 10:34 AM

I just realized I hand't updated this thread.

Everything having to do with the shipping issues have been cleared up and the remaining refund to the other forum member has been sent.

Thanks.

Best regards,

Chris

bcsoswat07 12-10-2011 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by EsmerilRacing (Post 4141580)
I just realized I hand't updated this thread.

Everything having to do with the shipping issues have been cleared up and the remaining refund to the other forum member has been sent.

Thanks.

Best regards,

Chris


Yes, I recieved $1300 out of $2000 yesterday... Only 7 months late. The other $700 will make a nice Christmas present for someone I guess. Very dissatisfied, this should have been resolved a long time ago, with no "20% non-refundable charge" that just magically shows up on mazdaparts.com's website AFTER I request a refund for a kit that wasn't even built

EsmerilRacing 12-11-2011 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by bcsoswat07 (Post 4142436)
Yes, I recieved $1300 out of $2000 yesterday... Only 7 months late. The other $700 will make a nice Christmas present for someone I guess. Very dissatisfied, this should have been resolved a long time ago, with no "20% non-refundable charge" that just magically shows up on mazdaparts.com's website AFTER I request a refund for a kit that wasn't even built

This post is genuinely dishonest. As you can see by utilizing the Internet Archive's cache system found here: http://www.archive.org/web/web.php Mazdaparts.com's return policy has been around long before your order & cancelation.

You can see in the archive the site's return policy has remained the same and then if you go to the individual items such as our Esmeril Racing turbo kit you can see the 20% cancellation fee is clearly displayed in April of 2010, a year before your order.

It's really unfortunate to have to get to this level of detail in public but we cannot allow inaccurate statements like this to happen without our response.

Best regards,

Chris

bcsoswat07 12-12-2011 10:24 AM

Well to be honest with you and everyone else, this has been the only consitant communication since I requested a refund. Other than publicly discrediting your company, there is absolutely no other way to contact you or whoever runs Mazdaparts.com now. Speaking about being genuinely dishonest, in our entire conversation about starting a payment plan, there was no mention what-so-ever of a cancellation fee. It was also explained and confirmed that when my total amount paid reaches $4,000 my kit will BEGIN to be built and AT THAT POINT will incur a 20% non-refundable charge if cancellation were to occur. My total was $3,500. Would you like to explain why there was a bulk purchase prior to the $4,000 mark and how everyone's money was "tied up" as soon as it was sent? I was also promised that the remaining $700 could be used as credit for future purchases, are you going to withhold that from me as well?

EsmerilRacing 12-12-2011 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by bcsoswat07 (Post 4143423)
Well to be honest with you and everyone else, this has been the only consitant communication since I requested a refund. Other than publicly discrediting your company, there is absolutely no other way to contact you or whoever runs Mazdaparts.com now. Speaking about being genuinely dishonest, in our entire conversation about starting a payment plan, there was no mention what-so-ever of a cancellation fee. It was also explained and confirmed that when my total amount paid reaches $4,000 my kit will BEGIN to be built and AT THAT POINT will incur a 20% non-refundable charge if cancellation were to occur. My total was $3,500. Would you like to explain why there was a bulk purchase prior to the $4,000 mark and how everyone's money was "tied up" as soon as it was sent? I was also promised that the remaining $700 could be used as credit for future purchases, are you going to withhold that from me as well?

I agree 100% that it says "at $4000.00 your kit will be built" (this has nothing to do with cancellation or refunds, it is so that the kit is finished by the time the buyer finishes payment)...However, building means everything has to be in our warehouse by then so obviously we will order things earlier.

Bottom line is that we have effected a full refund per our policy and also proven that the policies were published long before your purchase...any ongoing discussions on the subject are unnecessary. We will not spend any more energy on this subject.

Best regards,

Chris

MarkAngelo 12-13-2011 02:49 AM

I shouldn't have sold my Greddy Bolt On Kit for so Cheap!
 
Man.. I sold my Greddy Kit for cheap so I can get a "decent" turbo kit for my 2005 A/T RX-8. I was looking forward to a boost in fun factor as the only thing the car is missing is that little oomph!

Darn! I was hoping to go with esmeril because their work looked precise and legit. However, it seems that there is a lot of trouble going on in trying to acquire a kit.

So, at this point, what are my options? I want to keep the car, but I just miss boosting!

Warm regards,
Mark

Spam entry removed. Member is not banned, for now, because he seems to be an enthusiast.

MarkAngelo 12-13-2011 04:41 AM

I'd like to do a review on your standard kit for COBB Accessport
 
Hello,
I'd like to do a review on your kit. I will install it on a 2005 A/T RX-8 Grand Touring / Sport Suspension Package vehicle.

I see that you have it for 3995, but at the shop it's over 4k..

What else do I need to complete the install? I plan to use the stock exhaust for now and upgrade later. I just want to test your kit to see real world results with a complete bolt on solution without changing things like exhaust.

Please let me know. Will be ready to purchase A.S.A.P.

Best regards,
Mark

p.s. Please PM me if you have a special going on for someone to do a thorough and honest review on your kit.


Originally Posted by EsmerilRacing (Post 3994695)
NEW TURBO KIT RELEASED!!!

Aimed at potential Greddy customers, this kit allows you to surpass numbers that the Greddy turbo kit can only dream of while spending no more. It provides excellent drivability and instant boost giving the RX-8 that much needed torque at the lower end of the power band.

This is the perfect turbo kit for Autocross with a fat torque curve and lots of area under the curve from 2500rpm to redline.

We looked at the market and saw a need for an entry level turbo kit with the following criteria:
  • 280-350whp capable out of the box.
  • Easily upgradeable to the HP kit (Coming Soon!).
  • Cobb accessible with adapter kit (Coming Soon!).
  • Greddy competitive pricing.
  • Super quick spooling, 2000-2500rpm.
  • Good power band in the upper RPM range (lots of area under the curve).
  • Based on the same great platform as our original HP Kit.
  • Garrett turbocharger.

We are offering this kit at a price of $3995.00!!!! Unheard of!

For more information and to purchase click here:

http://esmerilracing.com/RX-8_Turbo_Kit-standard.html

PM, Email for more info.

Thanks for looking!


Speed_8 12-13-2011 05:52 AM

oh man here we go again lol...

bandit12 12-18-2011 07:09 PM

wow
 
so after going over all these posts, it seems to me that not only is there a lack of communication but there also seems to be a lack of actual dyno results. with no pics, no actual dyno results, and the fact that so many people have had problems, i dont see how this is a good option. let me know if anyone at all has received their kit and is happy with their install and results.

pdxhak 12-18-2011 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by bandit12 (Post 4147412)
so after going over all these posts, it seems to me that not only is there a lack of communication but there also seems to be a lack of actual dyno results. with no pics, no actual dyno results, and the fact that so many people have had problems, i dont see how this is a good option. let me know if anyone at all has received their kit and is happy with their install and results.

faith&firepower has the kit installed but waiting to get tuned.

https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...0&postcount=61

EsmerilRacing 12-19-2011 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by bandit12 (Post 4147412)
so after going over all these posts, it seems to me that not only is there a lack of communication but there also seems to be a lack of actual dyno results. with no pics, no actual dyno results, and the fact that so many people have had problems, i dont see how this is a good option. let me know if anyone at all has received their kit and is happy with their install and results.

Hello,

This kit was released not so long ago so Dyno's are not yet available. However, we have been making turbo kits for over 5 years and have many happy customers worldwide, inside and outside this forum. This kit was based on our existing "veteran" HP kit that has been out for years. We just modified/changed the components etc to allow a more accessible price point and successfully get more people into FI.

We are working hard to improve our communication and will continue to ensure these minor issues cease to occur.

If you have any questions please contact us.

Best regards,

Chris

mwall 12-20-2011 07:55 AM

i drove it out of the shop today

Blacknightz 12-24-2011 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by mwall (Post 4148329)
i drove it out of the shop today


and then ???

faith&firepower 12-29-2011 02:15 PM

Chris, Im looking for you to respond to my BAD FUEL PUMP Issue......

....by the sounds of everything here, what happened with the half-assed kit I recieved, missing both the FUEL PUMP & INJECTORS, I shouldn't be surprised.

You can PM me, or respond to the PM with my email address in it. Paying over 5k for a kit and not have a good fuel pump is complete crap.

faith&firepower 12-29-2011 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by pdxhak (Post 4147416)
faith&firepower has the kit installed but waiting to get tuned.

https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...0&postcount=61


Yeah things would be great if the fuel pump wasn't bad....they shipped me a crappy replacement claiming to be a 300lph.....

EsmerilRacing 12-30-2011 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by faith&firepower (Post 4153278)
Chris, Im looking for you to respond to my BAD FUEL PUMP Issue......

....by the sounds of everything here, what happened with the half-assed kit I recieved, missing both the FUEL PUMP & INJECTORS, I shouldn't be surprised.

You can PM me, or respond to the PM with my email address in it. Paying over 5k for a kit and not have a good fuel pump is complete crap.


This response was sent to you at 2:40pm, within 30min of your PM:

"Hello Erik,

I apologize for the bad experience. Most of the issues customers experienced was due to the old owner of Mazdaparts.com coupled with some technical communication issues. Mazdaparts.com has since switched owners and we expect customer relations to be way better moving forward. We've also started using a new inventory system taken from our manufacturing business which will allow us to reduce back ordered items and control component stock. As of last month we hold everything in stock which will help with deliveries. Unfortunately we implemented this after you made your purchase.

Can you please send me your order number so we can trace this back. Also, your kit is using the Aeromotive fuel pump, correct? Please confirm. Lastly, how did you narrow down your issue to a faulty fuel pump?

Answer these questions and we will do what we can asap.

Thanks.

Best regards,

Chris"


We don't see the need to SPAM our threads 3 minutes after you send us a PM. One hour wait for a response is fairly reasonable since we do not hover in the forum 24hrs a day. Please respond to the my pm and we will get this sorted out.

Thanks.

Best regards,

Chris

VERSUS4582 12-31-2011 09:21 AM

I don't know about the rest of you guys but seeing all that complaining around the esmeril kit really discourages me from doing any business with them or whatsoever ...

Even if some of the complaints are not 100% true ,still there are a lot to neglect them all !!!!

Unfortunately,i will look elsewhere for forced induction solutions ......

This is what happens when consistency is not the order of the day, business wise ...


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