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Winter tires: when are you going to put yours on?

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Old 11-04-2009, 08:01 PM
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I use the Meguiar one that Footman recommended...I have their high grade wax as well as their quick detailer. Tell me when you guys are meeting up for waxing the car =D I'll be on my 5th or 6th layer i think LOL

After I waxed the car the first time, it looked so much shinier and then i got so into it! went out to buy the quick detailer as well as rainX and tire and rim shine. Now I have all those things stuffed in my trunk all the time =).
Is it bad to have a lot of wax coating the car? and if i go through those self-serve washes, and use the high pressure rinse to wash the car, will a bit of the wax get washed off too?
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4th layer of wax going on this weekend. Wax is good for winter of course! reduces salt damage!
And a beater reduces it that much more
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A beater also reduces your manhood because you can't zoom zoom for 4 months of the year
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A beater also reduces your manhood because you can't zoom zoom for 4 months of the year
LOL...I don't need an 8 for my manhood...all I need and more is between my legs
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Now that the winter is slowly approaching. I was wondering if putting on my winter tires on october 19 ish would be okay. Reason is that, that's the day I'm picki,g up my brand new blizzaks and the shop is 5 minutes away. I need to have them mounted on my winter rims then put on the car. I'd like to save myself a trip. Cause I'd have to drop off the rims to the shop, go back home to grab the tires, then drop those off and do the swap. Instead I plan on bringing my rims to the shop , going to pick up my blizzaks (5 minutes away) then going back to the shop to get everything mounted and swapped.

Also will 4 oem rx8 wheels with tires on them fit in the 8. I'm worried that they might not all fit.
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4 OEM rx8 wheels will fit with tires on them, you throw 3 in the back seats, 1 in the trunk. Or you can throw one in the passenger seat, really up to you. It seems a bit early to be mounting winters as the temperatures are still fairly high, every now and then. Next week is still all double digits, so you might be burning a bit more rubber if you're on winters, but if you really don't have any other choice then go right ahead =] haha at least you'll be ready for a freak snow-storm, if one comes early!
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Alright sounds good thanks !!!

I honestly cant decide i mean it will definitely save me a trip. I was thinking another option is to get the tires mounted on the winter rims and them bring those back. Then when the time comes around ill mount them at home but i dont even have a jack LOL.

I think ill just get them mounted and put on the 8 on the 19th. Either way ill be using rubber on either my summers or winters. No biggy, how much rubber can you possibly go through within like a few weeks anyway.

BTW maffu do you live in maple ?? Near majormac and keele area??
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Just buy a jack. Nothing beats the convenience of swapping tires at your leisure in your own garage while everyone else gets stuck waiting hours at a tire place because they got caught with the first snowfall of the season.
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it might seem like the way to do it. But I can't even afford a jack right now lol !! Ill get them put on the car when I get the tires mountted and at some point buy a jack in the winter so when spring comes around ill be able to do the swap myself. And besides I think I'm getting a free alignment too

Thanks for the help guys
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I'd hold off putting the winters until the temp significantly drops. The longer you have those things on when it's warm out the faster you will go through them.
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Sorry for the newb question but thats because the tire compound and tread layout that it wears more on dry roads right?
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^ I believe soo not too sure. But honestly i dont think ill use up THAT MUCH thread untill november comes around. It is getting cold up here in the mornings anyways.
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I have a jack, but now I need a torque wrench. Anyone got good recommendations?
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Originally Posted by paimon.soror
Sorry for the newb question but thats because the tire compound and tread layout that it wears more on dry roads right?
Depends on the dry roads. Tire companies say that you start to see the benefits of winter tires at +7*C. I know that when it's wet out forsure, but when it's dry it depends. My truck I wouldn't see the benefits, but for those who like to keep their fun cars out in the winter and still like to enjoy some spirited driving when it's dry might appreciate the fact that their rubber hasn't turned into a solid chunk.



Winter tires have their benefits in all conditions; dry, wet, slush, snow, mix, and ice. The soft compound helps with traction even in dry conditions because of how hard all-seaons and even worse, sport tires get. Improving acceleration, braking and cornering are always a good thing. Even better when it's wet. Also the addition siphoning groves help move water away.

Of course they'res great when it comes to snow, slush and mixed conditions. Some tires have some extra stuff mixed in them. I'm quite sure that my Geolandar I/T have volcanic sand for added ice grip.

The only ones that I would call "Snow Tires", as opposed to "Winter Tires", would be the all-seasons and off-road tires with the M+S rating. They're only good for snow because the tread helps you dig you through it, but they still use the hard all-season compound and don't have (addition) siphoning to help in the wet or ice. Many truck owners who use their M+S AT and MT tires in the winter do not like it when it's cold and wet out; they find it very slick.

I put my tires on this Thanksgiving weekend. Had no choice, I'm too far to make a quick trip to change tires but I don't drive much every day anyway, so excessive tire wear because of the warmer weather is negligible, especially since it does like to sit around 0 degrees in the morning anyway. Indeed I got a Dewalt 18v impact and a jack and I can change all 4 tires in about 20 minutes, don't even have to take out the air compressor.

FYI: Yes I am very Pro-Winter-Tires

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After I put on my MS rear diffuser a couple of years ago, there was unexpected snow. It was not fun driving home in it. I probably really shouldn't even have and just left it at the shop. It was less than an inch of snow and I had so much trouble just getting the damn car into my parents' driveway. My KDWs just couldn't deal with it. Winters definitely is the way to go.

The car's getting stored in a couple of weeks and the beater's coming out then.
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Originally Posted by Nd4SpdSe
Indeed I got a Dewalt 18v impact and a jack and I can change all 4 tires in about 20 minutes, don't even have to take out the air compressor.

FYI: Yes I am very Pro-Winter-Tires
Correct me if im wrong. But i was told to always use a manual wrench to tighten lug nuts and a powered tool to remove the lug nuts. Apparently if you use a powered tool to tighten lug ntus it can cause damage or something ? Is this true
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Correct me if im wrong. But i was told to always use a manual wrench to tighten lug nuts and a powered tool to remove the lug nuts. Apparently if you use a powered tool to tighten lug nus it can cause damage or something ? Is this true
Absolutely. Actually, I've gotten 2 lugs on my one rear right now on the Xterra that's messed from switching to my winters this past long weekend. Well, one is from that, the other is because CT sold me what was suppose to be the right nut but wasn't so it messed the thread putting it on. So I gotta fix those this week. I managed to do a temporary fix on one, so now I'm running on 5 of 6 on that wheel until I get it fixed this week. Indeed it's probably from overtorquing it, but I also switch tires often, going between my street, off-road and winter tires. Indeed if anything, tighten them down quick with the impact and use a torque wrench to finish them off. There's also special torque limiting extension bar to help against overtorquing ($20 each or $120/set at PA), my buddies that run a wheel and tires shop use that and finish with a torque wrench.

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My 8 goes away this weekend Bring on the beater.

I would wait longer till it gets colder personally, blizzaks wear out fast when driven on dry/warmer pavement, but they are fantastic winter tires.
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The Jetta takes over as DD Nov 1 unless we get a warm spell.

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Engine
1) Allow engine to warm to 1500rpm to 1700 rpm before driving. Maintain below 4000 rpm for shifts until temp is warm.
Warning
The oil temp does not come up over 75C in normal driving, even after 30 min of 120km/h in 6C ambient. I'm not going to try it in cooler temps but it must be really bad. If your trip is under 10 min then your oil temp never gets over 60C, again related to 6C ambient
Make yourself some oil cooler covers and get yourself an oil temp gauge. For those who don't know, there is always engine oil running through the oil cooler lines. The temp bypass is part of the cooler so the oil always gets cooled to some degree.
You need 80C to 100C for ten minutes or so to burn off the condensation in the engine. Remember the milkshake on the dipstick?
Your alternative is to change your oil a lot.

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1) Shifts are notchier and stiffer in the beginning until the tranny oil is warmed up. There will be more "clunk clunk" when shifting. Also the 1st to 2nd engagement is hard when cold.
You definitely need synthetic fluid in the tranny for winter. It makes a huge difference to the syncros and the notchiness goes away.

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Oil cooler covers? Is there something special for this? Links?
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Originally Posted by rubberduckie
Oil cooler covers? Is there something special for this? Links?

No, but it's something I have to figure out. It's been mentioned in other threads relating to oil and engine cooling.
Given the low oil temps I'm seeing I consider this important. I imagine in Alberta the oil temps sometimes stay below freezing the entire trip!
Maybe I can get two small pizza heat-wave bags?

I found this link... http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...aOilCooler.php

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^^I am living in Vancouver now so it won't be nearly as cold as Alberta. . If i was in AB I would get a beater but it just isn't feasible here due to parking and other things.

I wonder if just getting something to block the air flow would help get the temps up.
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Originally Posted by Footman
I have a jack, but now I need a torque wrench. Anyone got good recommendations?
Best brand is Snap-on of course but it cost an arm and a leg. If you want something on sale... I just bought Mastercraft Maximum Torque Wrench (1/2" drive) at Canadian Tires for $67.99 + tax. By the way nice write up you did last year regarding driving our 8's in winter. I'm doing it this year... hope all goes well.
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Bring on the SNOW !!! LOL
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the red strip looks weir on the steelies.................


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