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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 09:16 PM
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I know. Since I'm using the MazdaManiac GT3071 upgrade kit, If what MazdaManiac showed on his web is true(300+whp @9PSI), then it is possible to get me there. .
If it's a 3071 then it can make about 325whp tops . What size is the inlet to the turbo just before the compressor wheel ?

If it is around 54mm then it's a 3071 , if it's around 58mm then it has a 3076 wheel in it which might get you to around 350+ whp .


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Also, Kane got 360whp on his 8(ported+3071). .
Cough ... really ? Who told you that ?

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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by shaojie1984
I know. Since I'm using the MazdaManiac GT3071 upgrade kit, If what MazdaManiac showed on his web is true(300+whp @9PSI), then it is possible to get me there. Also, Kane got 360whp on his 8(ported+3071). Anyway, something around there will already make me happy enough. Plus, I have the meth kit, it might help a bit.
LOL Really?

Wait we are totally hijacking this thread .... I retract the statement

METH lolololol
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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 10:11 PM
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A number of professional engine builders would roll their eyes, but everyone is free to do as they see fit for their own situation
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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
If it's a 3071 then it can make about 325whp tops . What size is the inlet to the turbo just before the compressor wheel ?

If it is around 54mm then it's a 3071 , if it's around 58mm then it has a 3076 wheel in it which might get you to around 350+ whp .




Cough ... really ? Who told you that ?
This is what MazdaManiac said on his web:
"1) Power.

The turbo included in the upgrade kit is capable of flowing enough air to produce up to 475 horsepower at the crank. That is over 400 horsepower at the wheels.
However, getting there will require major upgrades to other areas of the drivetrain, including but not limited to fuel injectors, ignition coils, intake and exhaust piping, fuel pump, cooling system upgrades, transmission upgrades, differential upgrades and suspension.

"
and here's the dyno on the web:

and what under the pic
"This was was realized with the GReddy E-Manage Ultimate, running a slightly more aggressive tune with only 9 PSI of boost peak."

And about Kane's 8:
http://www.streetunitforum.com/showthread.php?t=8889
"Kane11-13-2008, 11:43 PM
Personal Crap
Name: Kane Tomlin
Location: Hawaii for now...
Occupation: I blow things up underwater for the Army / retired computer nerd yuppie scum type...

Shows Attended
Build the Track! Motorsports Show
PPO2 Performance Takes Over a Hot Rod Shop

This is my one-off dealer build by JN Automotive; which needed a bit more love in the power department.

Mazdaspeed full bodykit
19" Staggered SSR D5R Wheels on Federal Tires
Greddy Manifold, Downpipe, Intercooler and Intake Piping (powdercoated stealth balck)
Custom GT3071R Turbo from MazdaManiac running at 10 PSI for now
Syncronic BOV - recirculated like a real man... LOLZ
Greddy Emanage Ultimate for EMS
Greddy Turbo Timer and Profec II Boost Controller
Greddy SP2 Catback Exhaust with gutted cat and resonator
Autometer Cobalt AFR, Boost and EGT in Lotek dash pod
iPod Integrated into Bose system
Dash-hawk for the ODBII Info
New 730cc P2 Injectors (brings total fueling well in excess of 400HP)
Black Halo Racing's Prototype FI 3 Core Aluminum Radiator
Agency Power Silicone Radiator Hoses
Tein S-Tech Springs
KVR 2 Piece Slotted Rotors with Hawk Ceramic Pads
Agency Power SS Brake Lines
Painted Calipers
Pro-Racer Blue Racing Lug Nuts
35% Tint on windows; 5% Tint on sunroof
Fender Vents Paint Matched to Wheels in Top Secret Gold
Custom Tuned by PPO2's automated tuning software; Baseline
PPO2 White Retro Shift **** custom counterweighted by Koolknobs
Kobalt Oil Catch Can
Greddy Front and Rear Strut Tower Brace (Powdercoated black)
Black Halo Racing's LS2 coil conversion (allow me to run more boost!!!)

****To be completed****
Mazmart Water Pump
Custom MAF Housing from Australia
Finish the tuning with new stuff - goal is 375 WHP and 12-13 lbs of boost"

So, unless they're both lying..............believe or not.........your choice.
I will post the dyno result once I get it tuned.

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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by shaojie1984
So, unless they're both lying..............believe or not.........your choice.
I will post the dyno result once I get it tuned.[/COLOR][/SIZE]
Neither of those two or anyone else has ever posted a dyno anywhere close to the numbers you are talking here . In fact the one you show (MMs 320whp) is the 2nd highest whp dyno EVER posted for his upgrade kit . The all time Highest is 332.
Assuming you do have a 3076 (and not a 3071) then 350+ whp is certainly achievable (just) . A quick measure of that intake diameter would confirm.

If you get 350+ on the first try then you will have achieved something no-one else has so my hat will be off to you .

BTW - see my signature in answer to MMs "400whp capable" claim.

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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 08:59 PM
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FL porting

Originally Posted by charles r. Hill
several years ago, when i rebuilt my first renesis (which was my own engine), i had rotarygod do some mild porting on my n/a renesis. I picked up about 10 lb./ft. Of torque across the rpm range and the torque curve stayed flat well above the range where an unported renesis tends to lessen the torque output. In terms of driveability the midrange torque, although only a modest increase, was noticeably different and accelerating from 70-120 mph in 6th gear (3,500-6,000 rpms) was definitely enhanced by no need to downshift to pass.

I am pretty sure pratte will like what you do for him as midrange torque is important for exiting turns with the rx-8.



since then, i have told people that having your engine ported during a rebuild is worthwhile but rebuilding it mostly for the sake of porting is not.
charles well said
and porting looks good,

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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 09:56 PM
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Great work joe. If some of the people who posted in this tread divided their post count by 5, it would prolly be the same amount of engines you've built.


How old were you again when you built your first rotary? hahahahaha, how many years ago?

I still remember you workin at good ol CP racing. Last time I heard Chris was working on snowmobiles.....
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 09:04 PM
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Hey guys! I have a question..... I got a 2003-rx8 original motor and with 153k/km on it ...I will go for a rebuild and i saw that the rotor housings are the same price as the rebiuld kit ... My question is how do i measure the wear on the housings? or you recomand to buy them new as well? Thanks
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Old Jan 30, 2012 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by -=drift=-
Great work joe. If some of the people who posted in this tread divided their post count by 5, it would prolly be the same amount of engines you've built.


How old were you again when you built your first rotary? hahahahaha, how many years ago?

I still remember you workin at good ol CP racing. Last time I heard Chris was working on snowmobiles.....
Yeah, back when I built my first motor at the age of 14, I kept track of the number of engines I built....but then lost track after 70 or so. I was building 8-10 per month and it was a little hard to keep track at that point. Been doing this stuff for 12 years now haha. Oh how time flys...


Originally Posted by PIF-Rx8
Hey guys! I have a question..... I got a 2003-rx8 original motor and with 153k/km on it ...I will go for a rebuild and i saw that the rotor housings are the same price as the rebiuld kit ... My question is how do i measure the wear on the housings? or you recomand to buy them new as well? Thanks
Well it would be fairly obvious if the housings are worn, they may have some of the wear surface flaking off at the edges, or may have chatter marks along the top near the oil metering jets. Check closely around the sparkplug holes for small cracks, I havent seen this with the RX-8 engines yet, mostly the older turbo motors.
One thing to measure is the width of the housing in several different spots close to the wear surface and compare the measurments, also laying the housing flat on a straight surface can tell you if its been overheated and warped.


Update on this engine: Installed it last week but could not get it running over the weekend. Seems the plugs are weaksause and now its super flooded. Gotta love it!
Ordered new plugs today, should be going mid week.
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 09:19 AM
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I think the best way it will be to just take it apart first and then i will order the rebuild kit and maybe the rotor-housings, its the first time i will do it. any suggestions(i will use the manual and i watched some rotary-atkins dvd's)?
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 05:32 PM
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Joe, come back to the 7 forum and stop taking all this abuse, just kidding.
Are you coming down to DGRR with the beasty this year! Every time I on the Canadian 8 forum I just shake my head, well time to go back where I belong, cheers and it was a nice visit.
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 05:55 PM
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what plugs you plan on running or experimenting with?
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 06:04 PM
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Joe, come back to the 7 forum and stop taking all this abuse, just kidding.
Are you coming down to DGRR with the beasty this year! Every time I on the Canadian 8 forum I just shake my head, well time to go back where I belong, cheers and it was a nice visit.
shut up and get your car ready.
first lapping day is a couple of months away. mine can sit and i'll take the R3 instead. cheaper on gas.
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 06:19 PM
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shut up and get your car ready.
first lapping day is a couple of months away. mine can sit and i'll take the R3 instead. cheaper on gas.
She in a million pieces right now, DGRR and then Sigma @ TMP May 15th. Are you going to be in the pack for one or both?
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 09:06 AM
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If I buy an FD can I come too?
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 10:19 AM
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i have done a compression test on the motor and i have .. 6bar's front rotor, 4 bar's rear rotor(the needle is bouncing evrey 3 times so the wear on the apex seals should be even). minimum is 5.8 bars? or i should just do the rebuild? Thanks!!
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 08:09 PM
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She in a million pieces right now, DGRR and then Sigma @ TMP May 15th. Are you going to be in the pack for one or both?

lets take this to the other forum.....I'm lapping in April then we'll see. I want to know what plugs Joe is running for this project.
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RX-7 trailing plugs all around (9's)
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Old Feb 8, 2012 | 05:57 PM
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RX-7 trailing plugs all around (9's)

hmmmmm...........platinum? why not colder plugs?
My FD has been running the 9s platinum for yrs but as I get use to driving it harder I'm starting read about running colder plugs and its possible benefits. 323 rwhp @ 11 psi. 15psi one of these days....
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Old Feb 8, 2012 | 06:48 PM
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nice work Joe. Most of us, if not all, could learn a thing or two from you. And its not all about building engines
Keep up the good work.
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Old Feb 8, 2012 | 11:21 PM
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hmmmmm...........platinum? why not colder plugs?
My FD has been running the 9s platinum for yrs but as I get use to driving it harder I'm starting read about running colder plugs and its possible benefits. 323 rwhp @ 11 psi. 15psi one of these days....
Well stock 9's all around seem to work pretty well, I made 464whp on an FD with 9's all around with 91 octane fuel...why mess with something that works.


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nice work Joe. Most of us, if not all, could learn a thing or two from you. And its not all about building engines
Keep up the good work.
Thanks!
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Old Feb 9, 2012 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by R.P.M.
No engine dyno, it's going back in the car hopefully next week and onto a chassis dyno.
could you possibly take a video of this car on the dyno?
p.s how many km were on that motor?
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did this ever run?
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Probably not ...7 years with no updates !
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