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wcs 02-12-2011 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by Chad D. (Post 3878964)
Don't worry, I already know and I am probably going to stop by.
I know everything about something.

Indeed
:beer05:

Kane 02-12-2011 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by Chad D. (Post 3878964)
Don't worry, I already know and I am probably going to stop by.
I know everything about something.

That is better than knowing nothing about everything....

Chad D. 02-12-2011 07:16 AM

Rotary-RX8, if you could organize in T. I can help. I'd like to get my new car tuned when I get it.

If not, i'll just drive out to whoever does it (chicago, columbus...it's all the same difference)

Rotary-RX8 02-12-2011 07:51 AM

^ Its a deal if you help me lol. Like i said im not too good at organizing stuff. But i can try and help.

Chad D. 02-12-2011 08:00 AM

Considering Wolf has the experience we could find out the good/bad of last year.
Like the dyno time like he mentionned.
When would this possibly go down? June?
I say june b/c I am tapped for loot until then lol (buying a new 8, building race header, advans + tires, and my austin project, fd subframes build into a rolling chassis)
After that would be fine. I'd like to get it tuned for some lapping days.

Rotary-RX8 02-12-2011 10:30 AM

Sounds good for june :)

TheWulf 02-12-2011 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by Chad D. (Post 3879227)
Considering Wolf has the experience we could find out the good/bad of last year.
Like the dyno time like he mentionned.
When would this possibly go down? June?
I say june b/c I am tapped for loot until then lol (buying a new 8, building race header, advans + tires, and my austin project, fd subframes build into a rolling chassis)
After that would be fine. I'd like to get it tuned for some lapping days.

GOOD:
- people were great to deal with and pretty reasonable
- location was good, lots of parking
- dyno worked well and they had a backup dyno in case anything went wrong
- it was a blast.

NOT SO GOOD:
- dyno time was insufficient. plan 1hr N/A and 2hr turbo, considering setup and takedown.
- make ppl pay dyno operators directly. collecting USD for Jeff and CAD for dyno is a pain in the ass.
- Paypal fees are a bitch. Accept balance transfers in USD only, or use personal transfers and sender pays fees.
- planning it early means many people flake or can't commit. we didn't fill our slots until a few weeks before. on the other hand, Jeff needs notice. Finding the balance is hard and you will likely assume some risk.
- I think Scott and Jeff were there until like 2-3am? Dyno op started at 10am, that was too late for this many cars. Should start at 7 or 8 at the latest.


If I participate this year it wouldn't be until late July at the earliest. It will probably be next year for me though. But I might come down and say hi.

Rotary-RX8 02-12-2011 01:04 PM

^ sounds like a headache to organize all this. I give you props for doing it last year. If you wouldn't mind organizing another one.. Even if its late july I'd help a bit.

Jedi54 02-12-2011 03:13 PM

Organizing these events can be very time consuming and as wolf mentioned, there is the fine balancing act between planning too early and not giving enough notice.
One thing I have done the past two years with the SoCal event is to make the tuning fees non-redundable.
Its a necessary evil in planning these in case someone drops out late in the game and no one can fill the slot in time.
These dyno days have a fixed cost associated with them so if a spot isn't filled, it drives up the price for everyone else involved.

+1 on paying the dyno operator separately .

Chad D. 02-12-2011 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Rotary-RX8 (Post 3879376)
^ sounds like a headache to organize all this. I give you props for doing it last year. If you wouldn't mind organizing another one.. Even if its late july I'd help a bit.

I had a great time last year. It's somewhat of a headache to organize anything.
thewulf did an amazing job last year, he has pointed out the hardships that he learned, from that list it seems the adjustments would be made somewhat easily because they would be effective immediately.


and yeah, it was crazy late last year. I said good night to Jeff, got off the elevator, looked at my watch and was like, 3:30wtf? That would hopefully be changed.

Like I said, I would like to be part of another MM Dyno/tune in Toronto.
(:smokepokeno border crossing for me)

I'll even go first, so no worries of me trying to cut in line. lol

Rotary-RX8 02-12-2011 05:55 PM

^ Im honestly really up for this. There are a few mods im looking to put on my car this summmer and wouldnt mind a tune to be honest ;).

Chad D. 02-12-2011 05:58 PM

wcs would maybe like a turn on the dyno at that time.
winkwink.

shaojie1984 02-12-2011 09:47 PM

I'm up for this too. Hope this happens soon, so Jeff can bring my new turbo here and tune it. :)

TheWulf 02-14-2011 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by Rotary-RX8 (Post 3879376)
^ sounds like a headache to organize all this. I give you props for doing it last year. If you wouldn't mind organizing another one.. Even if its late july I'd help a bit.

The problem with my situation this year is that I don't know if I'll be able to afford my turbo kit until June (I'll be honest, it'll probably go to next year but I'm trying to push for this year).

Also, I'm not just going to grab a kit and bolt it on -- I have something very specific in mind that I want and it might be an issue of sourcing all the parts or falling over to S/C if the kit I want to build is going to be too much of a headache.

If there's nothing organized by that time and I'm ready to go ahead with it, then I don't mind organizing it again, but if you guys are really motivated to do it, then I recommend someone else does. I'll help out where I can.

wcs 02-26-2011 07:58 AM

You guys wanna see how to run a dyno day event .... .
Check out the boyz from SoCal .......

Looks like a f'n riot!!!!

https://www.rx8club.com/west-rx-8-forum-34/ultimate-socal-dyno-tuning-event-2011-a-209016/

Jedi54 02-26-2011 08:06 AM

thanks wcs, this will be our 4th or 5th year doing it and this thing gets better and BETTER every year.
about to load up the car and we should be LIVE in a few hours.

here's the thread for the live webcast: https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-multimedia-photo-gallery-6/live-webcast-socal-ultimate-dyno-meet-feb-26th-27th-212337/

Chad D. 02-26-2011 08:20 AM

Jedi, that is awesome. I will check up on the livecast in a couple hours.

waNkLeR 02-26-2011 08:57 AM

if Im not tied up I will come and watch lol
its amazing the stuff you can learn by watching and listening

RX8Soldier 02-26-2011 09:23 AM

I'll be tuning in right after the gym!

TheWulf 02-26-2011 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by wcs (Post 3894844)
You guys wanna see how to run a dyno day event .... .
Check out the boyz from SoCal .......

Looks like a f'n riot!!!!

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=209016

That's pretty damn close to what we were doing last year... parking lot installs, compression tests, etc. The only difference is the GTA has a lot less people than SOCAL which is to be expected.

Oh, and we had beer, so we win :icon_tup:

Jedi54 02-26-2011 11:39 AM

wulf: we haz beer, liquor, and GT5 in the lobby

Chad D. 02-26-2011 12:24 PM

SoCal guys are always rubbing it in. :(

TheWulf 02-27-2011 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by Jedi54 (Post 3894963)
wulf: we haz beer, liquor, and GT5 in the lobby

Yes but you haz Amercian Beer which is kinda like sex in a canoe.... f*ckin' close to water :evil_laug

Rotary-RX8 02-27-2011 07:17 PM

^ LOL :rofl:

Chad D. 02-27-2011 07:31 PM

:pokeowned:yelrotflm

Kane 02-28-2011 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by TheWulf (Post 3895917)
Yes but you haz Amercian Beer which is kinda like sex in a canoe.... f*ckin' close to water :evil_laug

One of the best movie lines ever.

RotaryMachineRx 03-14-2011 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by DarkBrew (Post 3735599)
We mostly made up the procedure... and ended up removing more than we really needed to. You need to remove the air valve and hose from the air pump and the bolt holding the metal down pipe. You'll then have room to remove the bolt holding the actuator. When removing or installing the e-clip place shop cloths under the location to catch it because it will fly! Having a magnetic pick up tool really helped.

Here's a picture I borrowed
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...0&d=1282570623

I don't have a picture of my vacuum tester but it's something like this
http://www.princessauto.com/hand-too...ke-bleeder-kit

Note: My actuator appeared to be working fine and only failed to sustain full vacuum in a bleed down test.
Even so, it was costing me lots of HP!

Going back to an old topic from this thread I plan on buying/renting a Vacuum hand pump and doing a bleed down test on my SSV actuator either tonight or later this week. I'll let you know how it goes and if the actuator is leaking as predicted (was causing low MAF values when I was N/A) do you still have an extra leak-free actuator on hand if needed DarkBrew?

DarkBrew 03-14-2011 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by RotaryMachineRx (Post 3913263)
Going back to an old topic from this thread I plan on buying/renting a Vacuum hand pump and doing a bleed down test on my SSV actuator either tonight or later this week. I'll let you know how it goes and if the actuator is leaking as predicted (was causing low MAF values when I was N/A) do you still have an extra leak-free actuator on hand if needed DarkBrew?

I had a couple of different vendor lined up to provide one but I don't have any on hand. PM me if you want the list


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