Damn. Can't tell whose car it is!

 

Hey I'm directing you to this post:

https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...postcount=4932

 

I really don't see how this is a genuine cold air intake. It's still sucking air from that little hole that the stock airbox would do.

 

Because that "little hole" is supplying air from the front of the car. Any air coming in through that hole is going to be at ambient temperature. And, colder than the air in the engine compartment.

 

The stock air intake gets air from that hole too, does that qualify as a cold air intake?

 

+1000

 

technically it does. lets think what a cold air intake is...hmm...it just takes air from somewhere (usually the front of the vehicle) where there isnt a heat sorce. the factory air box does just that. the scoop or inlet isnt in the engine bay and its not like its tucked behind the rad or an oil cooler. The RX8 has a pretty decent setup for a stock intake. the biggest thing you are doing to the rx8 when you get an intake is get rid of the slight restrictions present in the tubing and box and the aspects of the box that quite down the intake and not allow water in. just my two cents.

Greg

 

No, I was not trying to be a smartass. Please take back your comment on your misjudgment of my character.

 

I want to see if this jetstreamer product is any better than the MS/AEM CAI. The proof will be in the dyno.

 

Well the thing is we really don't have proof of any gains.

the MS/AEM gains 0whp on it's own...then from what I understand from MM when it's tuned with the AP with the MS/AEM and you remove the MS/AEM you lose 12whp...

but I don't think there is anyone that has dynoed on the same car a tune for the stock airbox vs a tune for the MS/AEM and see the difference.

That's where the difference should be found tuned whp...

But it would make sense the AEM/MS would be able to gain the most power as it is actually sucking air from the outside (where the filter is) and not just a tube.

Although I imagine the RB ram air might be able to do something similar? I'm not sure. So far there isn't any real proof any intake does much...so much more testing should be done.

 

The ram air gets impeded by the laws of Canada, well more so Ontario, the license plate in front impedes its function.

 

Wouldn't that affect most people...as far as I can tell some states and many provinces require front plates...

 

appologies, post edited.


Greg

 

So what's the dillio?? This thing produce any power or like all the other 8 CAI's pretty much nada, but noise? Good test would have been pros or thunders with straight pipes and MS exhaust.

 

Hi guys

Sorry I haven't talked too much on this thread, I was away in Reno\Vegas last week and really didn't have a chance to drive much since I got back, until today.

So far the new intake is running great.

- The engine feels really smooth through the whole RPM range.

- It feels like there's better pickup (I realize that's a bit subjective)

- No CEL or the like being thrown

- Best of all it sounds amazing. It's quite at idle and normal driving and when you push it it has a nice deep sound

As for gains we don't know yet but we're headed to the Dyno on the 29th . I know it's a bit of wait but PRM is going to be testing a bunch of new intakes around that time.

Post here or message me if you have any questions.

 

full production soon to come???

 

dyno sheeT?

 

sorry for the long wait, we dyno'd the car this week.
here are the numbers, yet to recieve the graph via e-mail should have it up by
the weekend.

this was performed on a stock rx-8.

stock intake whp = 168.5
prm intake whp = 171.54

stock intake wheel torque =132.09
prm intake wheel torque =135.45

3 whp & 3 ft torque increase.

note: not a big gain but the rpm's climb faster & it sound great.


i have the first 5 kits coming in about 2 or 3 weeks,i'm going to offer them exclusively to local community.
if your intereseted call me.

905-939-2830

Gerry

 

Here is the Dyno graph.

 

run #8 is with the PRM system & #9 is with the stock system.
keep in mind that it's a gain of 3 PEAK whp, but if you look at some sections of this graph there is about
10 whp in the higher rpm's range, the shop sent me the speed( mph) graph, i'll get the rpm graph next week some time.that way you can see it in rpm's.

 

Any idea why there is a drop from 57 to 66mph? Would also like to see the rpm graph.

 

Hey guys

Sorry about the late post. Just wanted to confirm Gerry's (Jetstreamer) post. They kit was installed on my car and I was at the dyno run. Those are definitely the right numbers. I should let everyone know that the car was a bone stock 2004 the only change was the intake.

Other than that the kit sounds great and I think they got a sound clip of it. I'd been driving around with it for almost a month with no problems. It looks awesome and is straight forward to install. I'm betting Gerry will let you guys pick it up from him if you don't want it shipped, it'll save you time and money. If you have any questions let me know.

Kadavr:

I'm pretty sure the dip in the graph is from the TCS. I saw the break lines come on for a quick second. We had it turned off but as you know even when it says it's off it will still kick in under extreme circumstances (like running on a dyno). I've heard about holding the DCS off button for 20 secs or so to turn it fully off but that wasn't done.

As for an RPM graph I don't have one but I can tell you peak power was made somewhere just over 8000.

 

So in a nutshell, this is cheaper than the MS CAI for roughly the same performance...

 

droob as far as I know holding down the dsc button turns all the electronic assistance systems off (someone correct me if I am wrong). So did it go off in every run, do the other graphs have the same drop? It be good to get some ideas why it's happening, maybe have some other more knowledgeable users comment on this, although they probably don't check out the Canadian section too often...

 

This should be tested against the MS CAI. If it is the same, I'm sure these will sell more since they are cheaper, and you don't have to take off the front bumper. If the creators wanna do a test, let me know, I have the MS CAI and would be interested in finding out.