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WTF?? I asked two times to confirm and he was sure of the price. When/if I need it done, I'll make sure to speak to Mark again and remind him of what he quoted me.

By the way, I thought yours passed the test at Whitby?

mafiaboy01

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They didn't normalize our tests, so we both fail if you normalize.

Rotary-RX8

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Hey Phil did Whitby give you any issues with the mods you have on currently ??

I need to get my new engine soon too and from what i hear avante mazda is pretty good with mods. I already know the front rotor is failing from Scott's test but i dont want to run any issues when the dealer does it. Havent called yet but how much did they say they charge for a comp test, zoom cleaning and another comp test ??

Im assuming if it fails the second test ... you get your engine correct ?

mafiaboy01

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Only mods on the car are Exhaust, Coilovers and wheels. Nothing engine related. I would take any engine related mods off before hand.

mafiaboy01

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Just an update:

I went to Scarboro Mazda this morning, they were a little busy but got the car in quickly. I spoke with Mark, as he was the only service person working at the time. I explained everything to him and the tech. They did 2 compresion tests and the Zoom cleaning.

He honored Whitby Mazda's 1h labor compression test, and only charged me an hour labor for everything. I showed him my receipts for oil changes and he attached those to the file he's sending Mazda.

The engine failed both times, and he also mentioned that I have a recall for a new clutch petal(it has a lot of play in it) which I've tried to get Whitby to replace with no luck. So he put in an order for the new pedal and he'll get it changed when the car goes in for the engine replacement.

The service was 100 times better than Whitby Mazda, both Mark and the tech were knowledgeable about the car and mentioned they've done quite a few replacements last year.

Rotary-RX8

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Ya Scarboro has great service. I used to go there but its too far for me lol.

Will you be getting your clutch replaced too while they swap the engine ??

wcs

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Thanks for the update.

What's this you're saying that Whitby Mazda didn't normalize your tests?
:facepalm:

mafiaboy01

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Yup they didn't normalize Simon's or mine. When I asked them to do it they looked at me with a blank face and tried to explain how a rotary engine is different lol.

wcs

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I curious.
I wonder if the readout on the official Mazda Compression Tester is normalized by the device.

Maybe I'll ask NYCGPS I think he owns one.

mafiaboy01

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They tech said the tester was from back in the rx3 days so I doubt it would have the normalization for the RX8. Plus it showed the rpm the starter was at, he just read the numbers right off the reader.

Boeuf

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I just got home from Scarboro Mazda. They did a compression test for me and my car passed.
Here are the numbers from the printout they provided me.
R1 - 8.4, 8.4, 7.9 (119, 119, 112 psi) @ 299rpm
R2 - 9, 9.3, 9.3 (128, 132, 132 psi) @ 301rpm

I know those aren't normalized to 250 rpm but if you do normalize them I believe my front rotor is still just a pass. The tech showed me on their system that he punches the numbers in that he gets from the tester with the rpm he cranked at and the system calculates and determines if it's a pass or a fail.

mafiaboy01

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All they have to do it put the values from the tester into the computer and it normalizes and determines if its a pass or a fail.

Your normalized values are:

R1 - 7.49, 7.49, 6.99
R2 - 8.06, 8.36, 8.36

J0WUD

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^^ what are you doing to normalize yours? I remember using an android app someone on here made to do mine, but I ended getting numbers that didn't make sense
Mine took less than an hour there and cost me about $110 with tax I believe..But that was a few months ago...

mafiaboy01

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Ya its an android app called RX8 Compression Calculator.

wcs

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Those look like good numbers.
Especially if you compensate for altitude.

you're good using these guidelines post3664007

Try the foxed app
Foxed.ca - Rotary Compression Calculator

Seems to provides numbers that even make my engine look good

mafiaboy01

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Does Mazda compensate for altitude? I don't think I saw it on my print out.

Boeuf

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It wasn't on my printout either, I would assume that their system calculates all the necessary data. I would hope so at least.

Whitby Mazda refunded me my one hours labour for the test that they didn't complete properly. So now I'm only out of pocket for the 2 hours of labour Scarboro Mazda charged plus all my time driving to Whitby Mazda 3 times (once for the test, once to speak with them about how they f'd the test up, and once to collect my refund) and driving to Scarboro Mazda to have the test done properly.

Whitby Mazda techs also tried to tell me that I need to replace my spark plugs because they were all carbed up. When I told them that those plugs have been in the engine for around 6 weeks and only have approx 6000kms on them they were a little startled and tried to say they were cracking (which they weren't) and that carbon was leaking down the base of the plug (which is wasn't).
I asked the tech at Scarboro Mazda about my plugs and he said they were fine.

mafiaboy01

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Just to give an update:

Just got home from Mazda again, they needed to do the Zoom cleaning this time, plus another compression test.

So $350 later they got the results:

4.81, 5.01, 5.01
4.28, 4.78, 4.58

Car is now running like total crap, I have no power in any gear other than 1st.

Just something I found interesting, I asked the service rep to give me a copy of the test results and this time a got a sheet that says "Rotary Engine Test & Results Report."

It states:

Perform Decarb
Perform Eccentric Profile Relearn
Perform KAM reset

Compression test results

Vacuum/Voltage test result

MODE6 (Cat switch ratio)

Misfire counts.

Now I found it interesting that he had written down that the ECU has recorded 6 and 4 missfires for rotor 1 and 2 respectively during the last 10 drive cycles. However I never had a Flashing CEL, or solid CEL, or hesitation.

Ka Kui

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^ from Scarboro Mazda again?

mafiaboy01

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Correct, previously they did 2 compression tests but not the zoom cleaning, so I had to go back to get that done.

I've now had 5 compression tests done on the car, 4 of them from Mazda.

Boeuf

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Did your numbers change much after the zoom cleaning?

mafiaboy01

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They went down by 1 basically. Car has serious hot start issues now, taking 10+ seconds to start hot. Car feels really down on power, and getting onto the highway afterwards I had to give it gas because it wasn't going anywhere and I could swear I heard apex seal chattering.

Mazda requested some more oil change receipts so I'm getting them some more then it should be good to go.

Thief

Same thing happened to me after my carb cleaning/seafoaming. It's like it dislodged the chunks of carbon from the motor and then they just sat there in the rotor housing.

mafiaboy01

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I'm just waiting for Mazda to authorize the repair. At this rate the car won't be drivable for much longer.

mafiaboy01

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Update again:

So Mazda wanted some more oil change invoices so I got the previous owner to dig up receipts back till 2009 and 66,000km.

Scarboro Mazda is saying that Mazda still wants more receipts! How is 80,000km worth of oil changes not prove that the car was properly cared for?

Mark who is handling my case said he'll speak to Mazda and see what they can do, but this is starting to **** me off.