LittleJohn

Well.... met up with James (GFB) this am at my work and he's taken her away to be all measured up.
Had a breif chat and he/they sound like really nice guys. Asked if she'd would be dynoed before and after and he mentioned that they would be interested to see if there were gains to be made.
Sounded like it'll be a couple of months before the pullies hit the market. Today was just to measure things up, then they'll want her back in about a months time to get everything all fitted/tested and hopefully dyno'd

Hope she comes back in one piece

takahashi

Good on you Johnny... you are the man

GFB. Keep us posted with your details analysis of the kit please We want to learn everything about the car :p

rotarenvy

did GBF ever develop a kit?

LittleJohn

Not to my knowledge...They took my car for a day returned it with a Cel ( no biggie... I just had to figure out how to clear it myslef)
and I basically never heard from them again...
I've sent a few emails to them, and the response has always been that they're too busy with other projects..

been well over a year now... so I guess they've permanently shelved the project or I just got shafted on a set of pulleys ;-)

takahashi

That is a VERY BAD customer service.

So what they have done is to use your car for a day to a point that the engine is not happy.

AND

you get NOTHING from it... nothing!

Damn it will **** me off

timbo

Has anyone proven a benefit from undersize pulleys? All I have seen is a suggestion they may lead to overheating (which is what GBF may have found) Did you have a sCANalyser to interrogate the CEL code, LittleJohn?

Revolver

I'm with Taka on this one. Very poor form.

Least they could do is offer LJ an explanation as to why the Cel occurred and why they didn't choose to proceed.

EZZY

mmm.....

maybe they have realised that it will be a small market and not its worth while developing the kit.... unlike the WRX's, honda vehicles in general.

they did say "WOULD", so to me thats not a def. promise....

just like my 8 and whiteline.... they contacted me in a similar way, and they had my 8 for a few occassions, even though they are in woop woop of NSW. they did produced some products, so that wasnt a waste of time.....

anyway, dont go and blame GFB, im sure there is a vaild reason for not going ahead with it....

having said that, i'd compensate LJ something just for the hassles if i was them, even a fulli sik GFB sticker is better than nothing (not that you'd put it on anyway, but you know what i mean...) ;-p

Revolver

I'm happy to give them the benefit of the doubt and I'm sure they were genuine.

I just think having had the use of LJ's car it would be good manners to give him some feedback. It also wouldn't hurt if they told the rest of us what's going on since they used this forum to drum up a test car.

I don't want to flame them. Just want to find out if the reason they chose not go ahead with it is something they think they can share.

takahashi

Not blamming them at all.

Even a MacDonald or Hoyts or Village cinema voucher will be a good gesture.
And even some explanation is better than money.

It is part of communication. Only reason are given - then it is cool. They are even say that there is no cost benefit for them to make it. Coz it will cost them too much. That is fine - since it is a business decision.

That is all.

LittleJohn

Timbo I don't haave a scanalyser... but I suspect the cel was from not reconnecting the battery in the right manner.
Apparently if you diconnect the battery for a while, then there are certain steps that must be followed when you reconnect the battery.

Yeah I gotta admit..I wasn't very happy that they didn't bother to contact me a let me know their intentions.. rather it took an email or two from me to them to know what was happening.

Oh well.. that's the way the cookie crumbles i guess..

takahashi

In MissyK case.. she wants ice-cream.

Hymee

iTrader: (1)

I'd doubt the CEL was because of the battery dissconnection.

I would suggest it might be something related to the crank angle sensor. It could have been "upset" somehow if they removed the front pulley (air-con) from the e-shaft aka crank. But getting the code would have been nice.

I'll take some solace from this. A company who specialises in go fast bits / pullies looks like they gave up for whatever reason on the RX-8. Maybe it is a difficult nut to crack. Imagine how much harder it must be getting a S/C kit designed and built from scratch??? More than a couple of pullies. Hmmm.

Cheers,
Hymee.

PS - If anymore valid threads degenerate into Ice-cream land, I tell you, I'll just close them. It has gotten rediculous. And I can't blame Kalli or Ezzy for this one. Someone should know better, would you agree Taka?

takahashi

Sorry mate... that hurts.

Hey I just want to know the real benefit of a lighten pulley...?

and is there a chance that GFB realise they are having the same type of pulley to no point making a better one?

(back to topic)... pulley... * they don't come in vanilla do they?

Hymee

iTrader: (1)

Would be interesting to compare weights. The stock pulleys (on the crank at least) are pressed steel, thin wall. A machined ally one would have to be a bit thicker in section I would think, i.e a bit more "solid". So it would be interesting to compare the weights. I guess they would be a bit lighter.

Taka, the theory is to do with reducing the revolving mass, i.e. inertia. I guess at a certain point you would loose smoothness, as that is part of the flywheels job. Not always a concern in motorsports, but it does factor in to a street car / daily driver.

Cheers,
Hymee.

PS - Thread offically back on topic. Although there are plenty of discussions about this on the tech forum. GFB have a right to reply, but I guess at some point I should close this one down.

rotarenvy

way to get it on topic Hymee

I was going to give you a dig about how much easyer fitting a turbo would be but I'll stick to the toipic :P

if an australian company dosn't make pullies i'll just have to buy from overseas

timbo

I'm with taka (no, not on his o/t excursion) -- what benefits have been proven on the 8?

rotarenvy

they look cool

timbo

so....rice cream?!

takahashi

The one engraved MazdaSpeed cost more.... ?

Is there any details on the improvement on other car e.g.

timbo

There's debate about the benefits -- see this thread and also here

I'd be concerned that any purported benefits might be offset by overheating issues, if the water pump is driven 15-20% slower

rotarenvy

what about better cooling from reduced cavitation? There must have been some compromise in design with the rx-8's 9k rev limit to 3k cruise condition.

Hymee

iTrader: (1)

I'm only interested in new pullies if they drive a blower.

And I already use some Australian Made ones for that

Cheers,
Hymee.