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Old 01-11-2005, 02:32 AM
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Tempted by RX7

On my holidays in Melbourne i test drove a white 1997 built but 1999 registered white series 6 RX7 with 21,00km on the clock , tempting to say the least the twin turbo set up and the 294...NM (the RX8 IS 211NM ) makes a huge difference in the delivery of power .

I am tempted to add it to my stable if i can get it at the right price , why would a car built in 1997 be only registered in 1999 ? i was told only 200 were made available to Australia .

The RX7 seems original throught but the asking price of $49,000 is over the top .

The other alternative would be to get a 2001 or 2002 Black market japanese IMPORTED RX7 .

I still intend on keeping the RX8 and turbo/supercharge it , but the RX7 was dammed nice .

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I too have fallen in love with the FD 7........ a friend of mine recently bought a Jap import series 8........ drove it, absolutely love it......

BTW, that car sounds a bit iffy........... 97 build, 99 complied?
Sounds like an imported one to me.

If it is an import, then that sort of money will buy you a very late series 8 grey import.

Where's DMRH when you need him?
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The RX7 is Australian delivery and compliance the 97 build but 1999 registered is a concern as is the price , as u stated a grey import later model can be had for that price .

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Is it 99 complied or first registered in 99?
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Originally Posted by nojooc
Is it 99 complied or first registered in 99?

97 complied 1st registered in 1999.

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Originally Posted by Lock & Load
97 complied 1st registered in 1999.

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Could have bought it off someone who originally bought it and stored it seeing as it was going to be discontinued in Oz.

I've seen a VL Walkinshaw which was first registered in 2002.
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L&L have you checked the service manuals this would varify the authenticity of the claims. If it's a car that somebody bought for the "discontinuance factor" why then buy a series 6 when the 7 was to come to our shpres soon after with more power and a worse suspension set up.


Aussie delivered cars always attract a higher price, imports have a checkered history. My 7 (1998...October, second to last top be sold as I was told) has done 26,000km or thereabouts, I won't part with it for less than $60K.
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If it's a car that somebody bought for the "discontinuance factor" why then buy a series 6 when the 7 was to come to our shpres soon after with more power and a worse suspension set up.
I thought a 97 model is classified as a series VII.


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I won't part with it for less than $60K.
I guess you could be keeping it for a long long time then I guess. :p
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Originally Posted by nojooc
I thought a 97 model is classified as a series VII.
Nojooc, Tex's original post refers to a series 6 white RX7.


I guess you could be keeping it for a long long time then I guess.
Nojooc, not in a hurry to sell, don't need to sell, and there's a buyer for everything.......
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Michael, worth talking to David Morris (www.dmrh.com.au) as he sometimes (usually!) knows what's around.

On the subject of power and torque, I recently experienced an extended fetish, seriously contemplating buying an imported Cosmo 20B after a couple of drives. Three rotor, twin turbo... a beautiful surge of power when floored... interior out of Star Trek ... and a good one can be had for a bit over $20K. Of course, in terms of fuel consumption, it makes the 8 look positively frugal But that's all part of the game.

The turn-off for me is that these cars (and the later 7's) are pretty complex. Made me start to look at getting a good quality Series 3 (c1985) RX-7, as these must now be approaching classic status. Trouble is, it's really hard to find a good one
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Originally Posted by AMG
Nojooc, Tex's original post refers to a series 6 white RX7.
Nojooc, not in a hurry to sell, don't need to sell, and there's a buyer for everything.......
Either L&L got confused or the seller doesn't know what he's talking about because I'm pretty certain a "white 1997 built but 1999 registered white series 6 RX7" is a series VII

BTW, you're right about there being a buyer out there for everything, otherwise how in the world could Mazda have ever offloaded all the yellow 8's and continue to be able to sell nordic greens (albeit in small quantities) :p



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Of course, in terms of fuel consumption, it makes the 8 look positively frugal But that's all part of the game.
Well, you can't have power without sacrificing something Timbo.
My 8 is frugal compared to my old modded-S14 200sx.
Try 25L/100km!
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it has a blk plastic front lower spoiler, so its australian delivered.
does it have sunroof? if so, then it'd aust delivered.
AFAIK series 7 started in 1997.
there are awesome cars....
we got another one recently, and we are ditching the 13BTT, and putting a 308 V8 setup in it... for the 1/4 mile thingy :D
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Originally Posted by EZZY
we got another one recently, and we are ditching the 13BTT, and putting a 308 V8 setup in it... for the 1/4 mile thingy :D
That's not our mate 'Mr Yellow 8 who loves doing donuts' is it?
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Just looked at the pics L&L posted, it is a series 7, the rear spoiler belongs to that series.
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Originally Posted by EZZY
we got another one recently, and we are ditching the 13BTT, and putting a 308 V8 setup in it... for the 1/4 mile thingy :D
Oh, please tell me you are joking Replacing great rotary technology with 1930's Detroit crap :blech: Surely, for the 1/4 thingy, you could drop a 20B in. The thing might even have half a chance of getting around corners, too

Or did I just wake up from a very bad nightmare :o
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timbo, he might choose to be exotic and place a ferrari 308 in it :p
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Ha, yeah right! Slightly off-topic: a couple of weeks ago, as part of my RX-7 search, I saw a late 70's fibreglass Ferrari Dino replicar, based on a VW type 3 chassis, with a NA 12A engine in the rear. Apparently, it lifts the front wheels on a decent take-off with the 12A. And the guys were talking about dropping at 13B turbo in it. I suppose... if you had steering brakes ... you might, just might not kill yourself
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Originally Posted by timbo
Oh, please tell me you are joking Replacing great rotary technology with 1930's Detroit crap :blech: Surely, for the 1/4 thingy, you could drop a 20B in. The thing might even have half a chance of getting around corners, too

Or did I just wake up from a very bad nightmare :o
Common conversion over in the US apparently.
Another forum member, Icemastr, has done the same to his FD, 800rwhp.
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That's cos they've rarely seen a 20B in the US, as the Cosmo was only sold as RHD. Oh well, can't blame them for using whatever they find in the back of the shed :p
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why not if we already have a FD looking like this....


the new addition is a 96 model, and we got it very very cheap (just could not resist), it can not be registered, and have found a 308 and matching drivetrain for next to nothing (again... just cant let this one go), plus a well known fabricator as a great mate/business associate..... :D
there is a possibility for another 308 setup, im think of putting it in my madza, no, not the 8
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Michael that exact same car was asking $55000 back in May last year..... :p

I think it is a bargin after a few thousand $ discount :p NOT!
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Guys the RX7 I drove is definetely an Australian delivery with sunroof , i will make an offer on it but nowhere near $49,000.

Whats a reasonable price for this car ?, the redbook valued it at around $ 35,000

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Trouble is, an Australian spec and delivered model is going to be a classic, so Red Book is not much guidance. Eg, Red Book values a Series 3 at $3-4k; a good one will cost at least $8k.

You have to think about the psychology of the seller. He's dropped to $49k because he knows $50k is a price point too far, but I bet he won't budge much below.

However, pls prove me wriong, buy it, and drop into Canberra on your way back from Melb for me to oggle at :D :D
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Timbo

Looked at David Morris site he has a later more collectible RX7 model for $59,000,

The car i am considering is with a dealer in melbourne , he sold a red RX7 to a bloke in Camberra about 6 months ago , i drove the car but it lacked the x factor .

I found out he made $12,000 dollar profit on the sale because i spoke to the previous owner

A friend of mine has a series 3 RX7 1985 COLOUR RED model he may sell it when he comes up to the Goldcoast , if my son does not take it i will put you on to him if you are interested ?

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Michael,
That car is indeed an oz-spec late series 7. First things first, forget about the quoted torque numbers, as DMRH and I discussed in the earlier thread, they make more than that, it's just that Mazda didn't want to re-certify the emissions.

Secondly, red book. Imports damage the price to the tune of $5k+ but red book doesn't discriminate. This makes book prices totally invalid. He could justifiably ask $40k for that car, but it isn't worth high 40's.

Third, make sure you drive a series 8, ones later than '01 had even more power. They really are a totally different car to drive. Some models (late RS, Spirit R) did the 1/4 mile in 12 seconds and 0-100 in 4.3s. That's FAST!

If you're looking at an FD up here let me know. I know them well, and know the history of a fair few. Here's an s8 in Brisbane:
http://www.sunflowermotors.com.au/sh...e.php?index=30

Ezzy-> A 308?????

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