Review of Mazda performance day. MPS 3, MPS 6, RX-8, MX-5 (man and auto with DSC)
09-13-2006, 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by takahashi
Well if your Mrs is a week late then it is really the end of your world 
10-06-2006, 10:53 PM
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after reading taka's review I finally drove a MPS3 today. All I can say is that they are insane! it was an animal to drive and put a huge grin on my face :D
I want one!
I want one!
10-06-2006, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rotarenvy
after reading taka's review I finally drove a MPS3 today. All I can say is that they are insane! it was an animal to drive and put a huge grin on my face :D
I want one!
I want one!
Michael
10-07-2006, 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Grizzly8
For what they are they are expensive and Butt ugly IMOH , get a secondhand Mazda 3 and turbo it yourself .
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the interior of the MPS is better than my 8, tho mazda needs to understand that an inch of leather dosn't make it a 'leather interior'
if you turboed a 2nd hand 3 you wouldn't have 1/2 the car the MPS is.
10-07-2006, 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by timbo
The 3MPS is way, WAY different to a t/c'd 3!
It is too different.
10-09-2006, 03:11 AM
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since I'm looking for a sports hatch.
what is everyone's pick in the hot hatch market?
astra sri 147kW @ 35K (everything you could want but xenon lights)
ford focus 166kW? @ ~35k (expensive leather and paint)
mazda MPS 3 190kW @ 40-43K (depending on if the leather and lights are your thing)
VW GTi kW? @39K (lots of expensive options)
WRX 156kW @ 43K (very average options and interior)
some euro hatch?
what is everyone's pick in the hot hatch market?
astra sri 147kW @ 35K (everything you could want but xenon lights)
ford focus 166kW? @ ~35k (expensive leather and paint)
mazda MPS 3 190kW @ 40-43K (depending on if the leather and lights are your thing)
VW GTi kW? @39K (lots of expensive options)
WRX 156kW @ 43K (very average options and interior)
some euro hatch?
10-09-2006, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by rotarenvy
since I'm looking for a sports hatch.
what is everyone's pick in the hot hatch market?
astra sri 147kW @ 35K (everything you could want but xenon lights)
ford focus 166kW? @ ~35k (expensive leather and paint)
mazda MPS 3 190kW @ 40-43K (depending on if the leather and lights are your thing)
VW GTi kW? @39K (lots of expensive options)
WRX 156kW @ 43K (very average options and interior)
some euro hatch?
what is everyone's pick in the hot hatch market?
astra sri 147kW @ 35K (everything you could want but xenon lights)
ford focus 166kW? @ ~35k (expensive leather and paint)
mazda MPS 3 190kW @ 40-43K (depending on if the leather and lights are your thing)
VW GTi kW? @39K (lots of expensive options)
WRX 156kW @ 43K (very average options and interior)
some euro hatch?
from what u listed, i would choose mps3 (hot styling, big power) or the wrx, (butt ugly, 4wd, no torque steer) and i guess it all depends on what your car's purpose is gonna be.
10-09-2006, 07:16 AM
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VW Golf GTi is 147kW. 280Nm of torque.
I would love to go for that over the MPS3. They are the two winner of the recent comparo in a local motor magazine.
I would love to go for that over the MPS3. They are the two winner of the recent comparo in a local motor magazine.
10-09-2006, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Zephyr
i would go for the new british civic type r, but then again thats not coming to australia
from what u listed, i would choose mps3 (hot styling, big power) or the wrx, (butt ugly, 4wd, no torque steer) and i guess it all depends on what your car's purpose is gonna be.
from what u listed, i would choose mps3 (hot styling, big power) or the wrx, (butt ugly, 4wd, no torque steer) and i guess it all depends on what your car's purpose is gonna be.
after driving the MPS 3 it made the ageing WRX look refined. the WRX can handle the power a front wd can't.
Originally Posted by takahashi
VW Golf GTi is 147kW. 280Nm of torque.
I would love to go for that over the MPS3. They are the two winner of the recent comparo in a local motor magazine.
I would love to go for that over the MPS3. They are the two winner of the recent comparo in a local motor magazine.
I had a look for a comparo magazine but all I could find was a wheels VE commodore addvert.
10-09-2006, 06:51 PM
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Easy question to answer, and you know what I am going to say 
: check out the Polo GTI -- you can get a nice leather/sunroof pack, all OTR for less than $35k. Use the change (from the 3MPS or the Golf GTI) to go on a nice holiday ANC chip the Polo for another 35Kw. Easy as...
One of the conundrums with Mazda's MPS series is this: IMHO, they should offer the 6MPS with the 6 hatch body (looks nicer)...and they should also offer the 3MPS in the sedan body (which, to my taste, looks better than the hatch. It would also be a differentiator against all the other "hot" hatches
: check out the Polo GTI -- you can get a nice leather/sunroof pack, all OTR for less than $35k. Use the change (from the 3MPS or the Golf GTI) to go on a nice holiday ANC chip the Polo for another 35Kw. Easy as...One of the conundrums with Mazda's MPS series is this: IMHO, they should offer the 6MPS with the 6 hatch body (looks nicer)...and they should also offer the 3MPS in the sedan body (which, to my taste, looks better than the hatch. It would also be a differentiator against all the other "hot" hatches
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In all seriousness though Timbo, the step from an SS Commodore down to a Polo may be too big a jump size-wise. It'd be like jumping from the Titanic into a dinghy. I also wonder about resale of smaller hot hatches - it's a much smaller market than the mid-sizers.
If she's not after the bigger power that the MPS3 offers, I reckon the Golf GTI is the best bet. A very good all-round package that is both classy and will hold its value better than most.
If she's not after the bigger power that the MPS3 offers, I reckon the Golf GTI is the best bet. A very good all-round package that is both classy and will hold its value better than most.
10-09-2006, 09:07 PM
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All depends on the budget
You're looking at a minimum of $45k OTR to get into that for the 3MPS...even more for the Golf.
As to resale value...well, that's a bit rich, coming from an 8 owner! hahaha
she's coming from a ss commodore so the car needs to be small quick with leather and other features
As to resale value...well, that's a bit rich, coming from an 8 owner! hahaha
10-09-2006, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by timbo
All depends on the budget
You're looking at a minimum of $45k OTR to get into that for the 3MPS...even more for the Golf.
As to resale value...well, that's a bit rich, coming from an 8 owner! hahaha
You're looking at a minimum of $45k OTR to get into that for the 3MPS...even more for the Golf.
As to resale value...well, that's a bit rich, coming from an 8 owner! hahaha
And we're talking hatches, not the RX8
- I accept resale for the RX8 is not looking that flash atm.
10-09-2006, 09:51 PM
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The more expensive the car is - the worst is the resale value. You have not brought a Merc yet.
Or a Renault.
60% in 3 years is not a disaster. LOL.
I will go for Golf still
Or a Renault.
60% in 3 years is not a disaster. LOL.
I will go for Golf still
10-10-2006, 03:09 AM
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the golf is the only one I haven't tested yet. someone told me they were 60k something with all the options 
now I know otherwise I'll check them out. I sat in one and I did like the space and interior. the polo may be a bit to small. in the car yard I pointed to a polo thinking it was a golf. my partner would love the sunroof option 
I just tested the astra SRi. it's a good package for 35K+onroads. I didn't drive it hard but it felt zippy and well behaved compared to the animal MPS 3. I'm not sure I like the SRi looks and it's not as practical as some of the hatches.
I don't think my partner will need the extra handling offered by the golf so the extra $ might not be worth it. I do like the size of the MPS 3 loads of space and practicality.
now I know otherwise I'll check them out. I sat in one and I did like the space and interior. the polo may be a bit to small. in the car yard I pointed to a polo thinking it was a golf. my partner would love the sunroof option I just tested the astra SRi. it's a good package for 35K+onroads. I didn't drive it hard but it felt zippy and well behaved compared to the animal MPS 3. I'm not sure I like the SRi looks and it's not as practical as some of the hatches.
I don't think my partner will need the extra handling offered by the golf so the extra $ might not be worth it. I do like the size of the MPS 3 loads of space and practicality.
10-10-2006, 03:53 AM
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Golf GTI = Polo GTI + 150kg & $10k
And you are right about seeing them in the yard...there's nothing on the Polo...or the Golf...or the R32...that says they're other than a VW GTI
And you are right about seeing them in the yard...there's nothing on the Polo...or the Golf...or the R32...that says they're other than a VW GTI
10-10-2006, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by timbo
Golf GTI = Polo GTI + 150kg & $10k
And you are right about seeing them in the yard...there's nothing on the Polo...or the Golf...or the R32...that says they're other than a VW GTI
And you are right about seeing them in the yard...there's nothing on the Polo...or the Golf...or the R32...that says they're other than a VW GTI
Same thing. Different make.
There is nothing on the Civic... or the Integra or the NSX that says they're other than a Honda Type R.
Oh BTW - there is no GTi in the R32. It is simply an R32.
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10-10-2006, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by timbo
Golf GTI = Polo GTI + 150kg & $10k
Your equation is simplistic, disingenuous and biased.
I'd be interested to hear Len's views on the real differences between the two (and what he intends to keep).
10-12-2006, 03:38 PM
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UK car mag review on Mazda 3 MPS not so impressive 2 star rating
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/first_d...sid=225&page=1
MPS RANGE DESCRIPTION IS FUNNY BUT TRUE
Taka there is also a writte up on your GTR
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http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/first_d...sid=225&page=1
MPS RANGE DESCRIPTION IS FUNNY BUT TRUE
Taka there is also a writte up on your GTR
Michael
10-12-2006, 05:28 PM
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What a deadshit that reviewer was.
I'd suggest he prefers style to substance and has no idea what makes a hot hatch hot.
Try this for starters:
"If all you want to do is brag about numbers, the Mazda’s 255bhp/155mph/6sec combo is a winner. But tell someone you’ve got an MPS and they might ask whether the doctor has given you cream for it – there’s no brand recognition. The vaccuous engine note, non-existent image and high price make it hard to recommend over the competition."
What a tool.
I'd suggest he prefers style to substance and has no idea what makes a hot hatch hot.
Try this for starters:
"If all you want to do is brag about numbers, the Mazda’s 255bhp/155mph/6sec combo is a winner. But tell someone you’ve got an MPS and they might ask whether the doctor has given you cream for it – there’s no brand recognition. The vaccuous engine note, non-existent image and high price make it hard to recommend over the competition."
What a tool.