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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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Pulstar Plugs?

I saw an ad. for these plugs in the February 2008 issue of Scientific American. Website is http://www.pulstarplug.com. I've written to ask them about application to RX-8. Comments? Experiences?
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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even if they are legit, the stock coils can barley handle the regular plugs
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 04:09 AM
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Sorry but anyone who claims "pulse plugs deliver up to 1 million watts of peak power" is dodgy to start with.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 04:26 AM
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https://www.pulstarplug.com/applicationguide.cfm

The BE-1 would work in the trailing but nothing for the leading (14mm thread, 21mm reach).

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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by auzoom
Sorry but anyone who claims "pulse plugs deliver up to 1 million watts of peak power" is dodgy to start with.

50 watts - in 30 millionths of a second

1 million watts - in 2 billionths of a second?????

that's the same spark energy spark in 66.67th the time of a regular plug...(supposedly)

so 50 watts x 66.67 aprox 3333 watts I would think

Sounds better...and interesting too, just not what they said.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 06:57 AM
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Wonder if we could use DirectHits as they appear to just snap over the normal plug's end?

or if it matters as a description of our plugs sounds pretty advanced..

Micro-Electrode Spark Plugs: The last technology employed in aid of fuel economy for the Renesis engine is the micro-electrode spark plug. This spark plug uses a small side electrode and thick gauge central electrode with an extremely fine tip that promotes stable ignition of lean air-fuel mixtures. Also, by maintaining a lower temperature for side and central electrodes, the plug achieves high heat-resistance. The tip of the central electrode, which was previously of platinum, is now made of longer-lasting iridium.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 01:03 PM
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Spin, are you saying its feasible?
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 04:32 PM
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Spin, are you saying its feasible?
If the DirectHits are a plug-on thing to std plugs then sure it will work, if it fits - the plug will surely fire. BUT and it's a big BUT - will it do anything different than OEM.

What might be interesting is to try it with the new Mazsport ignition solution. That is supposed to make HP in the mid range for even NA cars, perhaps this would increase the range of gains to the top end? Of course all just dreaming as of yet.

Just food for thought as ways to try and eek out 1HP or 2HP or so here and there and accumulate some gains. What else do we have left except but SC or TC as Mazda isn't forthcoming?
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 12:13 AM
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I need to do some digging but I remember someone posting something nice and simple on the BS associated with these sorts of claims.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 06:35 AM
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I did some searching and I found several sites and blog post about the the PulStar plugs and the DirectHits when purchasers (companies w/multiple vehicles and individuals alike) bought and tested them. They all started saying it sounded like so many other scams, but they wanted to see.........lo and behold they universally got respectable results.

Nothing outrageous, but something noticeable, and repeatable...couple miles per gallon improvement usually and the overall concensus was smoother running, better midrange power, things like that.

I did find one site that reported that they found that some types of coils didn't work well (they tested a dozen or so different), some did with them. Not sure if this has anything to do with the fact, easily overlooked on the site but mentioned by DirectHits users, that you need to have or purchase "non-resistor" plugs to use the DirectHits. The Pulstars themselves are non-resistor so that's easy, but the DirectHits are only the electronics, not the plug.

As we have resistor plugs, we'd need to find a direct replacement for the leading plug we use in a no-resistor version, while we could use the the BE-1 in trailing position as you noted auzoom. Wonder if the BE-1 would be "OK" in the leading position or is that extra 2mm reach uber critical? And if the non-resistor plugs would not function well with our OEM coils?

Alternatively would there be any benefit to just using the PulStar in the trailing plugs only?

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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 07:09 AM
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It's completely possible, however it all depends on how much each unit costs compared with spark plugs and how long they will last. If they outlast a set of NGK Iridiums and doesn't cost any more ... perhaps it's a worthwhile venture.

Keep us posted on the results labby!
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 07:35 AM
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BE-1 $24.95 Site says they last as long as regular plugs, they say about 50K miles.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 09:32 AM
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Resistror plugs are for AM radio reception and interferance of other devices, cell phones cb's etc.


Let me know if the direct hit works.

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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Razz1
Resistror plugs are for AM radoi reception and interferance of other devuces, cell phones cb's etc.


Let me know if the direct hit works.
True, but the issue is ... Pulstar has no compatible Leading plug. So in order to use a DirectHit adapter, we need to find a plug that is NON-resistor that will work as leading (21mm reach). Then you add the DirectHits to that which contains the same thing that the PulStar does, as well as the resistance component.

NGK has a non-resistor 21.5mm reach plug same physical dimensions, not sure about matching the heat range needed though or whether the extra .5mm matters either. Anyone know of a non-resistor RX-8 leading plug w/correct heat range???
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 02:03 PM
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sigh....but of course...email from makers of PulStar


We do not have an application that will work with the RX-8 or any other RX engine. The shell (metal part) is different enough so that you must use the OEM plug. Our BE-1 is too short in reach 19mm vs 21mm on the RE7CL, and ours will not seal at the engine as the shell is too short (cannot get a spanner on the hex to tighten)



Sorry
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 03:27 AM
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Again, I remember MM saying something about the majority of spark action is done by either the L or T plug...of course I cant remember which one
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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the leading--the car will actually run ok---not great--- when you disconnect the trailings entirely
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Spin9k
sigh....but of course...email from makers of PulStar
Oh well, worth a try eh?
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Old May 20, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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ugh damn i thought they sounded pretty decent and legitement
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Old May 21, 2008 | 03:29 AM
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O'well Bad luck,

Any FWIW some reading (can't vouch for accuracy, independence or methodology!!)

http://www.sparkplugs.com/sparkplug4...fid=0&KID=3147 Check the dyno comparisons! I know not a rotary but a comparison at least.

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006...plug_demo.html
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Old May 22, 2008 | 10:12 PM
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How about using Denso plugs?
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