rx8 - smooth!

Canzoomer,

Thanks for your reply.

I must have been a bit testy the day I did that post.

I should say that my frustation was not directed at you but rather at missing the information that had been posted - as it turns out inappropriately. I have been following the development of your product with great interest and was looking forward to some objective testing on our cars. It was there and then it was gone- Bugger!!

At the time of my original post I was unaware of the arrangements that you had with L & L & Emack. I can understand that you wish testing results to be kept confidential until you have had the opportunity to review them.

I appreciate the massive effort that you have made with this product and await further developments.

Regards,


Steve

Lock & Load

Maurice firstly a big thankyou for spending over 40 minutes on the phone with me this morning, answereing all my questions with precision as usual.

Both Emack, Hymee and myself will be conducting all the further releavant testing required to re-adjust the stage 1 kit to suit the Australian RX8s.

I am 110% convinced that with the re-adjustment of the stage 1 we will have even faster cars than our US counterparts. As our state of tune seems to be higher/better than the RX8s in US.

It took Hymee and myself approx. 1 hour to install the stage 1 kit, although we took pictures and joked around while we were installling it.

The installation instructions are excellent and are easy to follow. Once the unit was installed, switched to the ON position, we took off. DSC light came on however we managed to get it to switch off.

There is a smooth and evident boost in the 5000 rpm and up range, especially in the lower gears. Lots of fun and rapid acceleration.

Below 5000 rpm, we noticed an intermittent power phase lag. However at times it was hard to notice this lag, but it is evident intermittently.

As I stated earlier we are working together with Maurice to re-adjust our maps to suit the Australian RX8s specifically. My advice is since there is no other ECU unit that comes near the quality and workmanship of Maurice's stage 1, I'd be sitting tight, saving my money and looking forward to Maurice re-adjusting the stage 1 kit.

So don't worry, be happy and shortly get ready for the revised stage 1 Australian RX8 review.

Cheers

Michael

Hymee

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Canzoomer,

I will post my results, as documented to you, in the "Canzoomers Place" forum, for all to see.

(refer https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...130#post235130)

I hope that is what everyone has been so patiently waiting for.

My summary comments to readers are thus:

* I experienced noticable less power between 4,000 and 5,500 RPM. This is evident on the MR Dyno charts I have plotted.

* The "kick" at around 5,000 RPM is only catching up to the standard power curve.

* Initially L&L's car recorded slower 40-100km runs. After a few more runs, the runs with the unit "OFF" where a wisker slower than those with the unit "ON".

I believe with proper re-mapping, the mid-range power loss can be negated.

I also believe there is some power to be gained, as the standard car still runs rich. But only time will proove or disproove this theory.

Canzoomer needs to be given time to address this situation, and it appears as if he is quite willing to do so. After all, the cars obviously do have a different mapping.

Cheers,
Hymee.


PS - L&L, I'm not sure if we will get more power than the NA cars, as the goal of the mapping is to get AFR's the same, which means both cars will essentially be in the same state of tune. We might all get the same - as we are not changing the internals of our engines. Once fuel delivery and spark is optimised, the physics of the engine are the limiting factor. The fuels are different, apparently, so that could make a difference. Anyway, time will tell. Oh - and don't forget the law of diminishing returns. In some ways I hope we are not already there. My wallet hopes that we are!

canzoomer

That is what i had hoped. You sent me a PDF and i had difficulty trying to extract the text.
Dead right. We are doing maps to correct a situation, and to do more would be a more aggressive map.

That is not our goal in Stage1.

This is a map intended to be approcximately similar to the JSPEC one. Maybe not absolutely identical, but to share the same characteristics for longevity, low risk of detonation, flexibility with fuel octane levels, reliability and tractability. Safe for use with the stock catalytic converter.

NOT a racing map.

takahashi

You guys are genius. Sorry L&L and Hymee I jsut realise that.

I love to have an ECU. Ric should have his say and I am looking forward to what you can do.

In the meantime, I should sit back and relax. Dream for the ING's bodykit

P.S. I feel bad if I cash in after all you guys have tested. But hey I will achowledge your hard work in my webpage when I get my hand to an ECU :D

P.P.S. I am reading about your explanation of close/open loop. Thanks. I think I know a bit more now. I will want one bad after some positive result from L&L. Good luck

RIC SHAW

have sent an ecu with aust tune in it to US so we will soon see hoe it goes on a car with US maps.
remember though that my ecu is adjustable with inbuilt loging for all to tune in any place.
so if a gain is to be made it will be.

racerdave

This is so cool... Canzoomer sent his to check out in Oz, and now Ric's sending his to the US.

Very cool!

I'm going to be watching this space with great interest.