Another RX8 RECALL
07-28-2005, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by skc
I hope the heat build up issue will solve the hot cup holder, transmission tunnel and poor a/c we get in the summer months.
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07-28-2005, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Gomez
'Fraid not. This recall does nothing to fix heat in the transmission tunnel area. I had hoped we might dodge this bullet, oh well.
I remember reading that Hymee's catback has the side benefit of being cooler in operation, thus avoiding the heat buildup we've probably all noticed in the boot floor. Any comments as to whether the fitting of this kind of aftermarket exhaust effectively does what the recall is designed to achieve? If not, does the recall work still work with the Hymee system?
Sorry if these are dumb questions but I'm still hoping to get a Hymee exhaust and was curious to know how the recall work for this problem impacts on such a system and vice versa. If it's been done to death before, would be grateful if you could point me in the direction of the relevant thread(s).
07-28-2005, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Revolver
As I read the recall notice, it is only around the fuel tank area that is affected - is that what you were getting at Gomez with respect to no change to the exhaust pipe(s) further up the car?
I remember reading that Hymee's catback has the side benefit of being cooler in operation, thus avoiding the heat buildup we've probably all noticed in the boot floor. Any comments as to whether the fitting of this kind of aftermarket exhaust effectively does what the recall is designed to achieve? If not, does the recall work still work with the Hymee system?
Sorry if these are dumb questions but I'm still hoping to get a Hymee exhaust and was curious to know how the recall work for this problem impacts on such a system and vice versa. If it's been done to death before, would be grateful if you could point me in the direction of the relevant thread(s).
I remember reading that Hymee's catback has the side benefit of being cooler in operation, thus avoiding the heat buildup we've probably all noticed in the boot floor. Any comments as to whether the fitting of this kind of aftermarket exhaust effectively does what the recall is designed to achieve? If not, does the recall work still work with the Hymee system?
Sorry if these are dumb questions but I'm still hoping to get a Hymee exhaust and was curious to know how the recall work for this problem impacts on such a system and vice versa. If it's been done to death before, would be grateful if you could point me in the direction of the relevant thread(s).
Ages ago, we did some dyno-ing on a "Hymee'd" RX-8, and we didn't have any airflow at the rear of the car. (I have subsequently seen in the manual where they say to have airflow at the rear of the car when dyno-ing). Part of the exhuast surrounds both melted. Not all together, but enough, hence my plan for carbon-firbe exhaust replacement parts. Now the problem doesn't happen on the road/track, as there is pleny of air flow.
Anyway, my point is I need to check the grommets on that car, and see if they got heat affected. If not, then it would be in the clear I guess, as I don't think it would have ever experienced more exhaust heat than that day!
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07-28-2005, 06:33 AM
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I notice that the model designation in both recalls is Mazda RX and not RX-8 (or RX8).. Therefore it does not show up on the list of models on the search page at http://dynamic.dotars.gov.au/recalls...&category=Cars
07-28-2005, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Revolver
As I read the recall notice, it is only around the fuel tank area that is affected - is that what you were getting at Gomez with respect to no change to the exhaust pipe(s) further up the car?
I remember reading that Hymee's catback has the side benefit of being cooler in operation, thus avoiding the heat buildup we've probably all noticed in the boot floor. Any comments as to whether the fitting of this kind of aftermarket exhaust effectively does what the recall is designed to achieve? If not, does the recall work still work with the Hymee system?
Sorry if these are dumb questions but I'm still hoping to get a Hymee exhaust and was curious to know how the recall work for this problem impacts on such a system and vice versa. If it's been done to death before, would be grateful if you could point me in the direction of the relevant thread(s).
I remember reading that Hymee's catback has the side benefit of being cooler in operation, thus avoiding the heat buildup we've probably all noticed in the boot floor. Any comments as to whether the fitting of this kind of aftermarket exhaust effectively does what the recall is designed to achieve? If not, does the recall work still work with the Hymee system?
Sorry if these are dumb questions but I'm still hoping to get a Hymee exhaust and was curious to know how the recall work for this problem impacts on such a system and vice versa. If it's been done to death before, would be grateful if you could point me in the direction of the relevant thread(s).
There is a lot of detail about this in my posts in the recall thread. It's in the Issues and Problems area of the forum. Hymee's exhaust will actually help a little in reducing underbody damage as it dissipates the heat more efficiently. Very few (if any) cars in Australia will need fuel tank replacement, I predict. We don't have the history of flooding the US has, and we don't have the traffic jams they have either.
07-28-2005, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
Michael,
Commendable of you to root this out. Really great.
On the "when did they know" point- this issue was first noticed in japan on a few cars early this year and it took them awhile to track down the cause. they have actually moved quite swiftly on the issue. it was only in the last month or so they knew the cause and got new parts being made. there have only been a very few documented cases. i understand less a dozen or less total. only 2 in the US etc
Commendable of you to root this out. Really great.
On the "when did they know" point- this issue was first noticed in japan on a few cars early this year and it took them awhile to track down the cause. they have actually moved quite swiftly on the issue. it was only in the last month or so they knew the cause and got new parts being made. there have only been a very few documented cases. i understand less a dozen or less total. only 2 in the US etc
Wow a commendable mention by the super moderator for rooting .
Does this mean i am in your good books once again ?
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07-28-2005, 04:43 PM
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Just in case you do not read the US thread.
Tigger has posted the full lower sus arm story. Thanks Tigger
http://199.79.180.162/prepos/files/A...5V325-9406.PDF
Sound like my suspicision was right, they notice the problem in Nov 2003 on a race track and only then they started tracking their supplier.
It affects models up to Apr 2003, said in the article - so they can't take any risk but look at all the lower arm. I guess they are still hunting for K4 batch, and it could be install in cars up until Dec 2003.
Tigger has posted the full lower sus arm story. Thanks Tigger
http://199.79.180.162/prepos/files/A...5V325-9406.PDF
Sound like my suspicision was right, they notice the problem in Nov 2003 on a race track and only then they started tracking their supplier.
It affects models up to Apr 2003, said in the article - so they can't take any risk but look at all the lower arm. I guess they are still hunting for K4 batch, and it could be install in cars up until Dec 2003.
07-28-2005, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by takahashi
Just in case you do not read the US thread.
Tigger has posted the full lower sus arm story. Thanks Tigger
http://199.79.180.162/prepos/files/A...5V325-9406.PDF
Sound like my suspicision was right, they notice the problem in Nov 2003 on a race track and only then they started tracking their supplier.
It affects models up to Apr 2003, said in the article - so they can't take any risk but look at all the lower arm. I guess they are still hunting for K4 batch, and it could be install in cars up until Dec 2003.
Tigger has posted the full lower sus arm story. Thanks Tigger
http://199.79.180.162/prepos/files/A...5V325-9406.PDF
Sound like my suspicision was right, they notice the problem in Nov 2003 on a race track and only then they started tracking their supplier.
It affects models up to Apr 2003, said in the article - so they can't take any risk but look at all the lower arm. I guess they are still hunting for K4 batch, and it could be install in cars up until Dec 2003.
Thanks taka ....explains Mazda's actions pretty well. They've been responsive.
08-01-2005, 09:41 PM
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Just another point to consider about the re-call 
If your car happens to re-called and the lower control arms and ball joints require replacing you will also be up for the cost of a Wheel allignment so it wont be altogether free unless Mazda covers the cost of the wheel alignment , which i dont think they will be happy doing
, but they should .........so insist on it . :D
As both the castor and camber settings will be altered when the recall is done , you will need a Wheel Alignment .
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If your car happens to re-called and the lower control arms and ball joints require replacing you will also be up for the cost of a Wheel allignment so it wont be altogether free unless Mazda covers the cost of the wheel alignment , which i dont think they will be happy doing
, but they should .........so insist on it . :D As both the castor and camber settings will be altered when the recall is done , you will need a Wheel Alignment .
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08-01-2005, 09:56 PM
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On what basis do you suggest Mazda would not cover this? Quite apart from the terms of the warranty, steering alignment is a safety issue, so there's no way a dealer should put the car back on the road without it being done, at Mazda's cost.
08-01-2005, 10:02 PM
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Insist on it!
Give them a copy of your specification of toe/chamber/caster setting in a print out and insist on getting a new print out before you leave dealership. If they insist on charging you, get them put that in black and white, or take a camera with you and let them speak to it. Bring your car somewhere you trust and send the invoice and a cover letter to Mazda Australia with carbon copy going to the Age and Herald Sun. See what they will get themselves into if they want me to spend $100.
I will react extremely strongly to any unfairness that happens to me.... and I don't care who I **** off on the way, unless someone tells me that it is fair enough that Mazda should not fix the problem that THEY CREATED.
Give them a copy of your specification of toe/chamber/caster setting in a print out and insist on getting a new print out before you leave dealership. If they insist on charging you, get them put that in black and white, or take a camera with you and let them speak to it. Bring your car somewhere you trust and send the invoice and a cover letter to Mazda Australia with carbon copy going to the Age and Herald Sun. See what they will get themselves into if they want me to spend $100
.I will react extremely strongly to any unfairness that happens to me.... and I don't care who I **** off on the way, unless someone tells me that it is fair enough that Mazda should not fix the problem that THEY CREATED.
08-01-2005, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by timbo
On what basis do you suggest Mazda would not cover this? Quite apart from the terms of the warranty, steering alignment is a safety issue, so there's no way a dealer should put the car back on the road without it being done, at Mazda's cost.How many Mazda dealer worshop have proper wheel alignment machines ??
I havent got a crystal ball , so i cant tell if mazda will or will not pay or even do the wheel alignment , the post is ment as a warning to those that need the re-call so they know what needs to be done if the job is to be done properly .
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08-02-2005, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Lock & Load
The cheap way out for them would be to mark both the original camber and castor settings and try to re adjust to the same setting , once the recall was completed
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