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....@Cliffjumper126 - I (along with many others) have no issues helping people with their problems, as I have been helped in the past. Pointing people in the right direction is great as well, but doing so in a constructive and appropriate/helpful/kind way is the way to do it
#52
2004 with 93k original miles car is stock.At 90k did air filter,oil,plugs,coils and wires.
Car has been running better then ever,cold start,hot start,perfect idle even good gas milage.Went on a flight came back next day and car is turning over but no spark at all.
Batteri is 3 years fuel pump goes on with the key turning.Spark plugs are dry but tested one and it gave a spark.Had the car over 5 years with no major problems.
Was hoping it was flooded,I can fix that.This I have no idea what it can be.
Car has been running better then ever,cold start,hot start,perfect idle even good gas milage.Went on a flight came back next day and car is turning over but no spark at all.
Batteri is 3 years fuel pump goes on with the key turning.Spark plugs are dry but tested one and it gave a spark.Had the car over 5 years with no major problems.
Was hoping it was flooded,I can fix that.This I have no idea what it can be.
#53
starting issue
My 04 RX8 starts and runs good but when you come back out of store or something it will not start. You must wait a while and something is running the battery down. I recently replaced the batt in remote and it still doesn't work. I've been told it is putting itself in anti theft mode. Some one help me. I've replaced everything but the coils and plugs but it doesn't miss or anything!
#55
I have an 07 Automatic RX8 and ever since I bought the car in February, every 5-10 times I start the car, there is a whining/grinding noise, which I would back the key all the way off, then try again and the car would sometimes do it again, or actually start normally.
Yesterday morning I went out and started the car, it made the noise, then I tried again and it would make a trying noise but it sounded like it wasnt engaging anything. I just bought a used starter and figure that it is the problem and fix. Anyone have any experience and can confirm my suspicions?
Yesterday morning I went out and started the car, it made the noise, then I tried again and it would make a trying noise but it sounded like it wasnt engaging anything. I just bought a used starter and figure that it is the problem and fix. Anyone have any experience and can confirm my suspicions?
#56
The grinding you are hearing is either your starter going bad (Bendix / solenoid specifically), or the teeth on your flywheel - Which could be directly related to the starter going bad, because if the starter doesnt extend fully when engaged, it will grind on the teeth of the flywheel and shave them down over time.
I would recommend throwing that starter on to see if it solves the problems, as for the flywheel, that all depends on how many times you've grind'd it (Other things could affect the flywheel too, but the starter being faulty is the most likely cause by far)
I would recommend throwing that starter on to see if it solves the problems, as for the flywheel, that all depends on how many times you've grind'd it (Other things could affect the flywheel too, but the starter being faulty is the most likely cause by far)
#58
i started having problems with my rx8 last wednesday, looking on this site i found the most likely problem was bad spark plugs so i replaced them and now it wont start, i attempted the de-flooding procedure and it seems the battery is losing power now when i try to crank it. i just had the battery tested and charged an hour ago. anyone have an idea of what to check now?
#59
I've had this issue with a couple cars. After it rains the car doesn't start. Nothin but a light click as the signal gets sent. I'm thinking its a solenoid since the battery tested perfect, and it does start after it dries out for a day or two. When it started yesterday after it finally wasn't raining in the span of about 2.5 seconds from when I turned the key to ignition until the actual start was strange. Instead of the whirring there was a leak of air like a vacuum wasn't sealing all the way or air was just leaking instead of any firing attempt. After about 3/4-1 second of that the whir was slightly weak or retarded then became normal after about the third whir and then started right up... No power differences or sound differences came from the engine even the slightest. Let me know if its a solenoid or not and what it is if not.
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#60
I bought my 2007 RX8 (44,000mi) in the spring, and after the first week, I started having starting issues where as, about every 5th-10th start attempt, I would hear an awful squealing/grinding, and figured the starter was on its way out. I bought a starter but when we went to change it, there was nothing wrong with the starter(appears to be upgraded starter) or flywheel teeth.
My friend noticed that one of the driver side spark plugs had broken off from the spark plug with the tip inside. We are about to replace the spark plugs and was hoping you could verify whatever I was hearing was possibly the sound of a rotary turning over with no spark and Im just not familiar with it?
Thanks for your help!
My friend noticed that one of the driver side spark plugs had broken off from the spark plug with the tip inside. We are about to replace the spark plugs and was hoping you could verify whatever I was hearing was possibly the sound of a rotary turning over with no spark and Im just not familiar with it?
Thanks for your help!
#61
So read through this thoroughly and not enough help. Let me start from the beginning.
My car got the flashing CEL about a week ago and was determined to be bad coils, plugs, and wires. I then proceeded to order and install the BHR ignition. Once installed car started up and ran beautifully for four days. Saturday, Sunday, Monday and this morning (Tuesday). Today I went to go to lunch at work and the car starter perfectly and drove to the gas station to get gas. After filling up I went to start the car and nothing just fast click click click click.
Guy at the gas station said oh dead battery. Let me jump you. He connected me up and nothing same thing. Click click click. Head lights don't even dim at all when trying to start.
Does anyone have any idea what this could be? Starter? Bad plug. I did the install to the book and the way the car ran for the last few days makes me think it is un-related to the coils.
My car got the flashing CEL about a week ago and was determined to be bad coils, plugs, and wires. I then proceeded to order and install the BHR ignition. Once installed car started up and ran beautifully for four days. Saturday, Sunday, Monday and this morning (Tuesday). Today I went to go to lunch at work and the car starter perfectly and drove to the gas station to get gas. After filling up I went to start the car and nothing just fast click click click click.
Guy at the gas station said oh dead battery. Let me jump you. He connected me up and nothing same thing. Click click click. Head lights don't even dim at all when trying to start.
Does anyone have any idea what this could be? Starter? Bad plug. I did the install to the book and the way the car ran for the last few days makes me think it is un-related to the coils.
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i started having problems with my rx8 last wednesday, looking on this site i found the most likely problem was bad spark plugs so i replaced them and now it wont start, i attempted the de-flooding procedure and it seems the battery is losing power now when i try to crank it. i just had the battery tested and charged an hour ago. anyone have an idea of what to check now?
Deflooding takes more power than your battery will hold, you need to have some other means of providing cranking power, or you are just re-flooding instead of deflooding. Like jumper cables to another running car.
I've had this issue with a couple cars. After it rains the car doesn't start. Nothin but a light click as the signal gets sent. I'm thinking its a solenoid since the battery tested perfect, and it does start after it dries out for a day or two. When it started yesterday after it finally wasn't raining in the span of about 2.5 seconds from when I turned the key to ignition until the actual start was strange. Instead of the whirring there was a leak of air like a vacuum wasn't sealing all the way or air was just leaking instead of any firing attempt. After about 3/4-1 second of that the whir was slightly weak or retarded then became normal after about the third whir and then started right up... No power differences or sound differences came from the engine even the slightest. Let me know if its a solenoid or not and what it is if not.
I bought my 2007 RX8 (44,000mi) in the spring, and after the first week, I started having starting issues where as, about every 5th-10th start attempt, I would hear an awful squealing/grinding, and figured the starter was on its way out. I bought a starter but when we went to change it, there was nothing wrong with the starter(appears to be upgraded starter) or flywheel teeth.
My friend noticed that one of the driver side spark plugs had broken off from the spark plug with the tip inside. We are about to replace the spark plugs and was hoping you could verify whatever I was hearing was possibly the sound of a rotary turning over with no spark and Im just not familiar with it?
Thanks for your help!
My friend noticed that one of the driver side spark plugs had broken off from the spark plug with the tip inside. We are about to replace the spark plugs and was hoping you could verify whatever I was hearing was possibly the sound of a rotary turning over with no spark and Im just not familiar with it?
Thanks for your help!
So read through this thoroughly and not enough help. Let me start from the beginning.
My car got the flashing CEL about a week ago and was determined to be bad coils, plugs, and wires. I then proceeded to order and install the BHR ignition. Once installed car started up and ran beautifully for four days. Saturday, Sunday, Monday and this morning (Tuesday). Today I went to go to lunch at work and the car starter perfectly and drove to the gas station to get gas. After filling up I went to start the car and nothing just fast click click click click.
Guy at the gas station said oh dead battery. Let me jump you. He connected me up and nothing same thing. Click click click. Head lights don't even dim at all when trying to start.
Does anyone have any idea what this could be? Starter? Bad plug. I did the install to the book and the way the car ran for the last few days makes me think it is un-related to the coils.
My car got the flashing CEL about a week ago and was determined to be bad coils, plugs, and wires. I then proceeded to order and install the BHR ignition. Once installed car started up and ran beautifully for four days. Saturday, Sunday, Monday and this morning (Tuesday). Today I went to go to lunch at work and the car starter perfectly and drove to the gas station to get gas. After filling up I went to start the car and nothing just fast click click click click.
Guy at the gas station said oh dead battery. Let me jump you. He connected me up and nothing same thing. Click click click. Head lights don't even dim at all when trying to start.
Does anyone have any idea what this could be? Starter? Bad plug. I did the install to the book and the way the car ran for the last few days makes me think it is un-related to the coils.
#63
Sounds like a grounding problem. Disconnect the battery terminals and clean the posts as well as the clamps. Reconnect and make sure they are seated solidly as you tighten them down.
#64
So I replaced all the plugs and put the original starter back on because it was an upgraded starter and the used one I bought was not. The engine now cranks but will no fire. The battery also needs a recharge because I think I left a light on, but we had it hooked to a running diesel truck.
Any ideas?
Any ideas?
#65
So I replaced all the plugs and put the original starter back on because it was an upgraded starter and the used one I bought was not. The engine now cranks but will no fire. The battery also needs a recharge because I think I left a light on, but we had it hooked to a running diesel truck.
Any ideas?
Any ideas?
Could be flooded. Easiest way to start it (my preference), is to get someone to pull you at ~25mph, and you pop the clutch in second gear. I know when mine was flooded my first time it took about a half hour of this to get it going fully, as depending on how badly flooded it is, it could take a little bit to flush it all out.
#68
For anyone else with possible severe flooding issues. Take all the plugs out, disable the fuel system, then crank the engine over for 30 seconds. Do this a total of 4 times and leave it sit, with the plugs still out for a couple hours (overnight if you can). Following the the wait, cycle the engine over again with the plugs still out and then reinstall them (after you make sure they're clean). You should be able to start the engine unless there is something else attributing the the starting issue.
#69
Car turned out to be flooded. Apparently I hadnt been cranking it long enough, but I think the problem stemmed from having such dirty plugs and it not wanting to start, then got flooded from all the starting attempts. I still dont know what the grinding noise is.
#70
OK so it sounds like the guess at flooded was correct. As for the grinding, I believe RIWWP already mentioned it, but a grinding noise whilst trying to start is generally associated with a bad starter (also could be the teeth on the flywheel). I would remove the starter, look for damage and replace as necessary
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You need 2 leading and 2 trailing. Yes, they are different. Have the parts guy look at the part numbers, they have a T and an L in them respectively (Trailing vs Leading).
When you replace the plugs, match them up to the big T and L letters stamped into the side of the engine, or remember that T also means "top" and L also means "lower"
When you replace the plugs, match them up to the big T and L letters stamped into the side of the engine, or remember that T also means "top" and L also means "lower"
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You need 2 leading and 2 trailing. Yes, they are different. Have the parts guy look at the part numbers, they have a T and an L in them respectively (Trailing vs Leading).
When you replace the plugs, match them up to the big T and L letters stamped into the side of the engine, or remember that T also means "top" and L also means "lower"
When you replace the plugs, match them up to the big T and L letters stamped into the side of the engine, or remember that T also means "top" and L also means "lower"
#74
Hi. My rx8 is hard to start .... im sick of it .. In past few days i have changed plugs, leads, battery, coils, cleaned all minus connections and still takes about around 5 sec to start. The thing is that it does not make any difference if engine is hot or cold.. sometimes car starts np... No faulty codes in ecu, Compression tested etc etc .... Would anyone have any ideas ?? Oil and filter also changed for 5w40 castol gtx i think .. Thankssss
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Oil doesn't have an impact on starting unless you have seized it from running out of oil.
What were the compression scores and the cranking RPM? I'm guessing a failing starter, but the compression test would confirm that since it reports the cranking RPM.
What were the compression scores and the cranking RPM? I'm guessing a failing starter, but the compression test would confirm that since it reports the cranking RPM.