myrx8

Lets see what have been the problems with me car?

Feb 05 - brake rotors where vibrating - I thought they could be turned - had to be replaced. Dealer stated I shouldn't have used the brakes that hard when it was cold out .

Jan 05 - had the car in for the problem it is having now - dealer could not reproduce over two days.

Dec 04 - Hesitation in accelerating - Dealer told be to put in fuel injector cleaner every other fill up.

Oct 04 - No acceleration - Dealer said it was bad fuel or water in the lines. Told me run the tank to empty then fill up.

I can go on, that is all I can remember right now - all the records are in the car. Luckily every has been under warranty. Mazda has been good about that.

Don't get me wrong - I love my RX8 - but these problems are beginning to be pain.


Regarding a TSB about this - my tech could not find anything - that is why they are now in touch with Mazda Corporate. They know there is problem - they just can't pin point the actually problem.

zoom44

have you switched brands of fuel?

snap-on

Have the techs tried to restore the apex seal issue via a good "top engine cleaner"?

I think most "standard power" cars are driven at a lower load than the HP's.

Carbon on the apex seals can cause a serious loss of compression.

Just a thought...flames will follow I'm sure

Hows Henry?

zoom44

henry's great! took his first airplane rides this past week and he didnt mind at all.

myrx8

Funny - the tech ask me what brand and octane I used. I almost always fillup at Quicktrip - 93 octane.

zoom44

so the tech suggested you had bad gas on 2 occasions but you keep filling with the same brand?

rodmeister

If your car is giving, and gave you, that much trouble, shouldn't Mazda trade your car for a new one, gratis? Why should you take the hit? If Mazda wants to maintain their reputation, avoid further bad word-of-mouth, and keep you and your relatives and friends as customers, they should treat you right. You might hint that the outcome, good or bad, will be reflected on this board, making this a chance for Mazda to shine or be condemned.

zoom44

what if it s not the car's fault but it really is bad gas? should mazda bend over backwards to make him happy?

myrx8

I think the whole "bad gas" comment is a easy response. QT gas sations are all over Kansas and Missouri.

myrx8

An update today - the tech said they got a special fluid to help the seals - but no luck - they submitted the results to Mazda Corporate - they are waiting on a response.

In regards to the car - I love my car, I think Mazda has been great - I was just suggesting that they could use my car to fiqure out the problems and still keep a RX8 and maybe others out on the road.

I have seen some post about some owners who have over 30,000 miles are getting offers from Mazda to do an engine swap. The idea is to see how the engine is holding up. If the engine is working - why swap it? Swap mine out - my car has the problems that nobody has been able to fiqure out.

But I still want a new RX8.

myrx8

I hope I get a new car.

zoom44

but you did nothing to help rule it out. didnt switch gas or use an additive.

zoom44

did some digging. first there HAS NOT BEEN a redesign or a replacement of the OMP. the part is the same now as it was when the car was introduced. that pump can pump enough oil to fill the engine so its not the pump not being able to move enough oil. also one of the things M flash did was REDUCE the amount of oil being pumped at start up. mostly to reduce fouling of the plugs.

2nd there has been engine replacement going on at the dealer in Lubbock. that dealer has replaced 6 engines i believe all on low power autos. i figure with the amount of autos around thats got to be just about everyone from that dealer. the dealer has no way of knowing what the ACTUAL problem was with those engines as they did not tear them down. merely replaced them. so the "premature seal wear" is speculation. and the cause related by mazdaspeed girl about the bad pumps is not correct as i said above.

my opinion after checking into this is that the dealer in lubock has had some cars with problems that may or may not be all the same problem. and that they for whatevever reason(inexperience?) are unable to diagnose or correct properly so they have just gone to direct engine replacement when they have certain symptoms. if one needed an engine replacement they all must need it right? this problem IS NOT wide spread across the nation. there are no tsb's or mri's relating to it.

demob05

Since looks like you've had your 8 for a while, how has your overall experience with it been over the several months?? any major issues/problems you've had, and how many miles so far??

myrx8

That may explain why my dealer is doing everything in the world to figure out what the problem is. The dealer has had my car for almost two weeks - but still no decision if I get a new engine. They just keeping running tests and sending them to Mazda corporate.

snap-on

Two weeks is kinda long to diag a problem..IMHO

Car stalled/stumbles
Check plugs/coils
Check compression
Hot soak some top engine cleaner if carbon is suspect
Recheck compression

Is your dealer a "stand alone"?

Or is the best Chevy/Mitzu/Kia/Mazda tech checking this engine?

zoom44

20something thousand miles and no real problems. had it 1 year and 9 months. came with k flash and was flashed to L for false evap test failure. had the 2 recalls done, an alignment and flash to original M. nothing else- no filmy headlights or brake squeal, no floods no broken aircon ***** nadda.

hell 2 weeks could pulled the engine taken it apart scrubbed of the carbon put in new seals and put it back together. the time i think is going to making a decision on what to do. the tests tehy probably ran so far total about a days work maybe.

myrx8

Stand only Mazda dealership - they are the same ones that offer the supercharged RX8 (that is actually covered under warranty). So they must know what their doing (I hope).

zoom44

what? this is SUNFLOWER?!?!?! what the hell are they doing?!?!?!?!?!

oh and have them put the SC on your car for all of your trouble D

myrx8

I thought one of the rules of this site was I you couldn't use a dealer name on here - but yes, and I have no idea what is going on.

By the way - I returned the Neon and I am now driving a PT Cruiser - I step up, but a small step up. Mazda paying for the rental.

As of tuesday next week, it will be two weeks with this problem.

Razz1

BACK TO NIC ZAKS PROBLEM.

THE CAR WAS IN AN ACCIDENT AND FIXED.


For the idle problem.....

Try charging the battery.. If that don't work buy a new one

myrx8

Update:

I got a call from the delaer - Mazda Corporate has approved a new engine. The tech was telling me that for some reason, most of the engines that are being replaced are automatics. The manager said that it may have something to do with the casting of the engine.

I tried talking to the sales manager about making me a deal and he said he would treat the transaction like any other deal. He said they really weren't dealing too much on the 05 RX8's since the fire at the factory in December. He said supply was low.

I will wait for my new engine - depending how it goes I may keep it or go out and get me a GTO - a regular engine with lots of horsepower - sure it looks like a Grand Am - but that car does move.

We will see. :D

myrx8

To give everyone an update:

After 50 DAYS in a mazda paid rental - I finally got my car back My original engine had an internal failure due to a defective oil metering pump. Then the second engine had a crack motor mount. So they installed third engine.

So, I drive the car from the dealership - it was like driving a new car - the low coolant light came on - called the dealer - tech told me to put some water in. Then when I tried to shutdown the car - the engine light came on. Called the dealer again, he said that is impossible. Soooooo I drove the car to the dealer, into the shop, and told the tech to rev the engine like he was going to shut it down and the engine light appeared.

So after 50 days in a rental, I get to drive my 8 for a total of 4 hours, and it is back at the dealer.

This is getting almost too funny....

tRiX8

sorry to hear all these problems. maybe, you can demand for a new car. would this be considered a lemon?

hariharan_m

hi guys. i jst got an rx8 for my 18th bday a year ago. its an AT. my car was imported so it was really low for our roads..and me bein the foolish amateur excited after getting the licence, pushed that car, to the max.im talking like 190kms almost every week and occasionally i had a few happenings where i hit the bottom on some uneven part of the road.... quite recently i noticed that when i stop at a junction or red light my left exhaust shakes abit too much. and when i put it in park i notice that the fan(im not exactly shure which part) seems to go up and down..and i hear this metal clashing sound(when its idle) ... it doesnt happen continuously..maybe jst like once in every 10 to 20 seconds. is the car repairable..or is my engiine totally gone...