myriadshalaks

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The purpose of this thread is to freely exchange accessport maps. I finally got all my stuff organized last night while helping out one of our new forum members who's trying to scale his maf with baseline, so I'll get the ball rolling.

A few preliminary remarks are in order. I've discovered that a difference exists between the 04-05 racetuner software and the 06-08 software. The difference is easily overcome though. The maps in 04-05 are larger. Where mine stops at, say, 1 percent load, the 04-05 continues to 1.25.

All you need to do if you have 04-05 and you're looking at an 06-08 map is extend the trend. and likewise, if you have an 06-08 and you're looking at an 04-05 is use only the portion you need.

It's not a big deal. Example below. What you see here is the main ignition table in 04-05 racetuner. The red areas are what's been changed. The highlighted area is an example of extending the trend. So an ignition table from 06-08 is copied here and extended in racetuner 04-05.


This is the method you will follow. I will upload 06-08 maps in .csv format. You will copy them and paste them in the corresponding map in racetuner using "cntrl-v" from the upper left hand corner, and then you will follow the trends on your own. It won't matter, you're not hitting 1.25 percent load. 06-08 folks obviously don't need to worry about this trending stuff. just copy and paste from the upper left.

Next post has the map i'll be sharing.

This is not intended to replace a pro tune. But if you're waiting for one, this might be fun in the mean time.

myriadshalaks

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This is for MT.

Change your rev limit from 9000 to somewhere between 9100 and 9200, or higher if you're okay with that.

Change your fans from 207 to 199 or thereabout.

open the attached files. Paste them in the corresponding places in racetuner. flash and go.

maf calibration (very close to stock)
leading ignition main
trailing ignition main
oil metering load based
fuel map 1-3 green line
fuel map 1-3 blue line

folder with all of the above: all files are in .xlsx format

that should get it started. enjoy!
also post reviews.


if you get a persistent rough idle, try changing the idle maps from high 800s to low 900s, not much.

myriadshalaks

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weird, 50 views, 10 downloads ... and no feedback.

people just take take take.

Mawnee

I can look at Yer Tunz thredz?


Very cool myriadshalaks, Thank you for sharing this info with the community

Kane

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Hey what was the pic of? Post Baseline MAF scaling all finished up?

myriadshalaks

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the pic is of what the two different fuel maps do with everything else the same.

the maf scale is stock *.98 or close to it. should be universal enough that people can scale their own mafs further with baseline if they want.

Nemesis8

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I need to get involved in this, but I am simply too busy with allot of other projects right now. Glad to finally see an open source for AP tuning coming to the masses.

Kudos to you and Kane!

Kane

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So same MAF scale just different fuel maps.... nice.


Can you do one of those target vs actual AFR graphs?

myriadshalaks

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i've already done those in Kane Tune's my car. On my car, it runs about 8 percent leaner than expected in the upper rpms at WOT. but that's accounted for in both fuel maps.

if someone runs this tune, they'll likely want what I assume will be an individualized maf scale from baseline to get to where i am now, about 3-5 percent leaner than expected at WOT in the upper rpms.

I'm hoping here to find out how universal tunes are with the rx8. I figure if people run this tune with similar mods as me, they should get the same results.

And I'd like to see what others are doing with their tunes and how that goes in terms of results.

I take what I've provided here to be a sort of good starting point for working with baseline if desired. It'll make it more fun. I mean, who wants to spend time maf tuning NA if they're not going to see some extra ponies?

This is a relatively conservative performance tune for NA 8s to get things rolling. But you already know that since you wrote the majority of it.

Hopefully we'll see some other people's maps on here too.

Kane

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So wait - your 8% lean after you scaled your maf in Baseline???

That seems bass ackwrds - since scaling it would fix the leanness.

myriadshalaks

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no no. now i'm around 3-5 percent leaner than expected at WOT after using baseline -- 1.01 average m-value for all of engine data.

the map posted here is the first tune on my car from sarasota. the blue line in the picture above represents the fuel map you wrote, the green line is the one i wrote.

This maf scale is the first one from baseline in Sarasota. Most of the m-values i got then were .98, so i believe what i did was just multiply the whole stock scale by .98.

the blue line is stock. the red line is the maf scale posted above.

wcs

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Very kewl myriad, thanks for sharing.

I'll give this a try, but I won't be able to get to it until this weekend.

I'm also going to give Kane's Baseline application another shot. I spent a little time with it a little while ago and well I got confused and didn't have the time to figure it out.

JinDesu

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I would like to ask, how different is the AT tune besides the rev limiter? Since the 06+ AT has the same engine and ports, we could technically use your MT map with the AT right?

This is pretty much just a thought, as I would get my AP from MM with the AT tune anyways.

myriadshalaks

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i'm not sure about how this would work with AT.

having maps from mm is cool,. but you can't see what's he's changed, and it's fun to have other maps too.

JinDesu

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Yeah but I'm limited to the AT tunes, which apparently only he provides. I would love to be able to buy a used AP for much cheaper and use your free tune, but I don't think it would work =p

myriadshalaks

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i don't know if it would or not. i defer to someone more qualified to answer.

but my hunch is that it would work on the 6port. but i'm not sure enough to give you the green light.

ask kane.

myriadshalaks

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cool man. let us know how it goes.

if you have confusions with the baseline, I'll be happy to help out if i can. shoot me a pm.

JinDesu

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Well no, I wouldn't do it myself. Again, I'm going with MM's auto-tune when I have the money. Once I see what that does, and once I have the AP in my own hands, perhaps I can shed some light onto this matter. However, I only brought it up as a discussion point, especially since this thread is about a "universal" tune. Insofar as I've seen, the AT 06+ (and even the AT 04-05) RX-8 can handle generally what the MTs can handle. Of course, the AT's transmission is different, but changing the engine map to provide more fuel efficiency or more baseline power wouldn't kill the transmission. And several members has already removed their limited to 9000 and not suffered much. So it makes me think, your universal should really transcend AT/MT boundaries (at least theoretically).

I'd love to see a lot more people discuss this =p

Kane

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I have an 2004 AT Tune on my computer...

If the individual who provided me the stock map *cough* Glen *cough* wishes to provide how he got it then you can do that and use Baseline. I thought you could always pull the stock map though on the AP.... I forget how he eventually figured it out.


And yeah - the maps do look remarkably similar. However; unlike the HPTuners (GM) flasher - this one doesn't seem to have tranny control (shift points etc).... so I dunno about tuning that kind of stuff.

09Factor

A 6port MT map should work on a 6port AT. I say should because the map dosen't have any shift points in it Like Kane mentioned above. That's handled by the Transmission Control Module.
Unless there is some hidden line of code that looks for the TCM.

Great thread myriadshalaks! Sharing FTW!

Brettus

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good idea . although I can't read your timing map ....

carbonRX8

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Just found this. Are we keeping this thread NA? Should we have a tread entitled "I can haz Twerbeux AP Mapz, plz? kthxbye!" ?

As for the scaling issue, you can set those axes to anything you want, just as long as you have all the columns and rows populated. Now, whether you use the correct or relevant numbers is another thing altogether. All i am pointing out is that you should feel free to change the numbers in the axes if you wish. Dont feel beholden to the stock intervals.

myriadshalaks

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but you can read everything else? weird. has anyone else had that problem?

i just downloaded to a different computer, not the one i uploaded from, and it works.

this one? also there's a picture of the 04-06 version in the first post. lmk if you mean the trailing.

Interpol

Wait. So how do I enter in the fuel map? All the fuel maps for my 04 MT have a peak value of 1.00. I have no way to enter in 14.7, 12.1, and so forth? Or am I just missing something painfully obvious?

myriadshalaks

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change to standard values

in racetuner
click edit > configure

and copy and paste using cntrl v works. so you have it or make it in excel, then copy it into racetuner. waaay easier.