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Old 09-01-2011, 01:45 PM   #1
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Max NA HP/Torque

If u took an 8 and ported it and did everything like ecu, cobb ap, exhaust, intake, coils, etc, what kind of power would you get from it?
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If u took an 8 and ported it and did everything like ecu, cobb ap, exhaust, intake, coils, etc, what kind of power would you get from it?
Somewhere in the 220-230 HP and 180-190 TQ range at the rear wheels with a street port

Here is a tread that should address your question. BDC Street port vs. stock port dyno comparison

And another thread with a bridgeport which shoudl make a few more.

Bridgeported engine results
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depends on the quality of upgrades.
If you install ebay junk, then you probably won't get those numbers. Nor will it last long...
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I meant with the best stuff you could buy.
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I meant with the best stuff you could buy.
Expect to spend around $3000~$5000 for 230 HP.
For the same price you can build a FI setup for considerably more power.
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Searching is free, but then so is reposting the same old thread one more time ...
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Power Modifications:
From the factory, the 8 is VERY well tuned (mechanically). There are only 2 things you can do for easy power:
- AccessPORT custom tune to remove some of the "safe" parts of the tune
- Removing the naturally restrictive catalytic converter.

Doing the rest of the common upgrades piston cars get (intake, exhaust, pulleys, etc...) nets you MAYBE 5hp. MAYBE. Depending on the brand, alot of them are inferior to the OEM stock system, and plenty cause you to lose power.

If you want power, you have to go forced induction, turbo or supercharger. And you need a starting amount of about $8,000 to $10,000 for a complete set up. If you find what you think is a "deal", please don't get fooled. If you spent $1,500 on your turbo system, you will still spend $8,000 to $10,000 in modifications, errors, swapping parts, getting stuff to finally work right, and probably an engine replacement along the way. If you dont have an AccessPORT, you have very little chance in making it work.

If you don't go that route, then the most you can expect is about 200 whp without a custom engine rebuild, which can run you $5,000+ once you factor in the labor of pulling and reinstalling the engine and the shipping. The advancements in porting work have been slow coming, but they are still moving the needle upwards.
BDC has taken the new top N/A dyno (non-race team funded) posted on 5/16/2011 here: BDC Street port vs. stock port dyno comparison 223whp:

Please note that "heavy" has not been defined as of this edit. The gains are from more than 1 source. Likely full 3 inch headers to tips on the exhaust, entirely unknown what the intake is. The porting work above was mostly on the intake ports rather than the exhaust ports. There was also likely significant improvement in the seal tolerances over factory specs.

Eric Meyer posted his 233hp dyno sheet here: 233 rwhp dyno sheet
But keep in mind that it's likely his team invested $100,000+ (just a guess) into the R+D of the engine and drivetrain to get it there (including special treatments of the transmission and diff to reduce drivetrain loss)
Note, Eric Meyer reported being able to get 2-4 more PEAK hp than he posted, however he loses power nearly everywhere else in the curve, making the car overall slower.

A single power number is a terrible thing to evaluate.
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