paint sealant
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paint sealant
I did a bit of searching in the forum and couldnt find an answer to this question
I went to autozone today and asked about using a sealant instead of a wax, they looked like me like I was dumb and said theres no such thing as a sealant as far as they know, so I turned around and got out of there.
Where can I go to buy some paint sealant that would actually know that it exists, I dont wanna buy it online. Also any specific type you could suggest, if I had a name I might have better luck.
After some reading around about the best wax to use many people are suggesting a sealant for a white car instead of wax, I just cant find it.
I went to autozone today and asked about using a sealant instead of a wax, they looked like me like I was dumb and said theres no such thing as a sealant as far as they know, so I turned around and got out of there.
Where can I go to buy some paint sealant that would actually know that it exists, I dont wanna buy it online. Also any specific type you could suggest, if I had a name I might have better luck.
After some reading around about the best wax to use many people are suggesting a sealant for a white car instead of wax, I just cant find it.
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So is "paint sealant" the correct name of the stuff I should be asking for? I see people refer to it as that so I figured it was, but after today I'm not so sure.
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Where can I go to buy some paint sealant that would actually know that it exists, I dont wanna buy it online. Also any specific type you could suggest, if I had a name I might have better luck.
After some reading around about the best wax to use many people are suggesting a sealant for a white car instead of wax, I just cant find it.
"For dark colors a carnuba based wax gives on amazing glow but for light colored cars I suggest a sealant like Zaino Z2 or Werkstatt." quote from Wes in this thread, check it out.
https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-show-shine-26/wes_r-x-gt-r-120-pics-181202/
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After some reading at the site linked above I am thinking blackfire wet diamond sealant/wax is the best thing going for white paint, or pretty much any paint I guess. I'm gonna give that a shot if I can find it anywhere local.
Never clay bared a car, wanted to but never had a car worth the time and effort. So I guess its about time to give it a try.
Oh and sorry for posting this in this forum, seemed like the correct place "exterior appearance" but I guess show & shine may have been a better spot.
Never clay bared a car, wanted to but never had a car worth the time and effort. So I guess its about time to give it a try.
Oh and sorry for posting this in this forum, seemed like the correct place "exterior appearance" but I guess show & shine may have been a better spot.
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http://www.concordautospa.com/page12.html
Most of the paint protection that's available off the counter are sealants, which include the typical products like Meguiar's NXT and Mother's Reflections. If you want waxes such as carnauba wax, Meguiar's #26 is usually available off the coutner.
Most of the paint protection that's available off the counter are sealants, which include the typical products like Meguiar's NXT and Mother's Reflections. If you want waxes such as carnauba wax, Meguiar's #26 is usually available off the coutner.
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The reason you want both is that the sealant adds extra longevity and protection in combination with the wax which adds depth.
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I once used Liquid Glass all the time. Excellent product. Now I do a 2 stage process of Poor Boys EX-P and then 2-3 coats of Natty's Paste Wax Red.
The reason you want both is that the sealant adds extra longevity and protection in combination with the wax which adds depth.
The reason you want both is that the sealant adds extra longevity and protection in combination with the wax which adds depth.
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just got a bottle of smart sealant...
what are its main functions, and what steps come first?
wax, then sealant after? or is it mandatory for sealant to be applied first, then waxed after?
sorry if its a stupid question.
what are its main functions, and what steps come first?
wax, then sealant after? or is it mandatory for sealant to be applied first, then waxed after?
sorry if its a stupid question.
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Like I said above. Sealant then wax.
SayNoToPistons, you really think it mutes the flake? Everyone I know thinks it pops more. Of course you need to be in direct sunlight. The depth of wax is what gives it that effect. I think of it as a magnifying glass effect. More depth = greater reflection = brighter paint flake.
SayNoToPistons, you really think it mutes the flake? Everyone I know thinks it pops more. Of course you need to be in direct sunlight. The depth of wax is what gives it that effect. I think of it as a magnifying glass effect. More depth = greater reflection = brighter paint flake.
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Like I said above. Sealant then wax.
SayNoToPistons, you really think it mutes the flake? Everyone I know thinks it pops more. Of course you need to be in direct sunlight. The depth of wax is what gives it that effect. I think of it as a magnifying glass effect. More depth = greater reflection = brighter paint flake.
SayNoToPistons, you really think it mutes the flake? Everyone I know thinks it pops more. Of course you need to be in direct sunlight. The depth of wax is what gives it that effect. I think of it as a magnifying glass effect. More depth = greater reflection = brighter paint flake.
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so from what u guys say from above, you seal, then wax... but somehow it "mutes" the metallic flakes?
i just read the bottle of the smart sealant, and it says its great to use AFTER wax. but get this. it also says that it contains brazilian ivory carnauba wax... the color is similar, but lighter yellow to meguiars liquid bottle of wax.
+ it adds that doing so prolongs the protection effect against rain, UV, blah blah...and enhanced shine and so forth.
so i'm not sure what to believe now. and since it has certain rain repellant polymers, it suppose to "bond" to paint/clearcoat. but then why would they want you to apply AFTER wax?
it makes sense to apply sealant first as u guys do, so it seals the paint with some polymer bonding agent...but then again, this stuff IS carnauba wax which seems like doing the job twice!
now i just feel like using only the sealant instead of meguiars... but tell me there is gonna be some rewarding shine from doing sealant then meguiars carnauba afterwards.
i just read the bottle of the smart sealant, and it says its great to use AFTER wax. but get this. it also says that it contains brazilian ivory carnauba wax... the color is similar, but lighter yellow to meguiars liquid bottle of wax.
+ it adds that doing so prolongs the protection effect against rain, UV, blah blah...and enhanced shine and so forth.
so i'm not sure what to believe now. and since it has certain rain repellant polymers, it suppose to "bond" to paint/clearcoat. but then why would they want you to apply AFTER wax?
it makes sense to apply sealant first as u guys do, so it seals the paint with some polymer bonding agent...but then again, this stuff IS carnauba wax which seems like doing the job twice!
now i just feel like using only the sealant instead of meguiars... but tell me there is gonna be some rewarding shine from doing sealant then meguiars carnauba afterwards.
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i haven't personally tried any, but from what I've heard, the whole smartWax line is just rebranded chemical guys stuff... just more expensive.
I have tried chemical guys sealants (m-gloss and can't remember the other one's name) and both are very good products.
seal then wax.
depending on how picky you are, you may or may not even notice layering carnuba over.
it won't be any more "shiny", but you will get more depth.
I have tried chemical guys sealants (m-gloss and can't remember the other one's name) and both are very good products.
seal then wax.
depending on how picky you are, you may or may not even notice layering carnuba over.
it won't be any more "shiny", but you will get more depth.
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^^thanx!
well...didn't know about the product history, but didn't wanna pay restocking fee so i exchanged for this stuff...
but either way, i'll go ahead and ignore the labeled instructions in the rear and seal, then wax and see how that goes.
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well...didn't know about the product history, but didn't wanna pay restocking fee so i exchanged for this stuff...
but either way, i'll go ahead and ignore the labeled instructions in the rear and seal, then wax and see how that goes.
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..."contains brazilian ivory carnauba wax", but it's not a true form of carnauba wax since it's blended in with the liquid polymer. Paste form is your best bet.
I love this stuff! http://www.poorboysworld.com/natty-blue.htm
Also, I recommend though not always necessary that you use all of the same products from one source as many of these products are engineered to work together. Thus when used separately you may not get the proper results.
Here she is after a nice little wash up in the garage. Was 32 degrees outside.
I love this stuff! http://www.poorboysworld.com/natty-blue.htm
Also, I recommend though not always necessary that you use all of the same products from one source as many of these products are engineered to work together. Thus when used separately you may not get the proper results.
Here she is after a nice little wash up in the garage. Was 32 degrees outside.
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