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Old 07-14-2010, 09:56 AM
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I guess he still has some items in stock. I wonder if that is mysql101's fuel pump? The sad thing is that oil pan is nice. This guy has some nerve.

http://motors.shop.ebay.com/mindseyeengineering/m.html


Edit: ****, just realized I spelled engineering wrong. Fixed
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I engineered something! See your email.
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^My sentiments exactly. I don't even think those gaskets would work well anyways.
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9krpmrx8,
I engineered something! See your email.
Got it, looks promising. Now go take some pics!!

Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
A factory fuel pump motor for $50?
An unnecessary oil pan that has rivets on the inside holding the baffle plates together?
Flange gaskets that are prone to falling apart when you remove the midpipe?

E-Bay is the perfect place for guys like this to market their products.

Exactly.

Rivets, really? Looks good from what I have seen but I guess a closer inspection reveals the details.
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some sucker will come along and buy those awesome parts.
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I always wanted the fan control kit but never got it and as of this weekend I will have the Cobb to control my fans anyway

The pan was on my list until I found out who made it. Also, I never looked very close before at the construction of it and now that I looked at after reading Charles' comment I wouldn't trust rivets in an oil pan. But larger capacity and full drain capability is somewhat attractive.

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Not to mention that pan looks like it will make changing the plugs from underneath pretty much impossible.
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Oil temps are not the issue many have made them out to be and more oil to change is of no use, either.

I dunno about oil temps, the lower the better as far as I am concerned in this Texas heat.

But I am OCD and I hate leaving dirty oil in the bottom of the pan the way the stock pan does. I was really surprised how much oil was in the pan after a drain when I did the Mazmart Oil pressure kit. I mean I change my oil under every 3,000 miles so i know it doesn't really matter but it just bugs me.

Plus I just like to "mod" **** I am seeing a psychiatrist about it now.
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Oil temps are not the issue many have made them out to be and more oil to change is of no use, either.
Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
I dunno about oil temps, the lower the better as far as I am concerned in this Texas heat.

But I am OCD and I hate leaving dirty oil in the bottom of the pan the way the stock pan does. I was really surprised how much oil was in the pan after a drain when I did the Mazmart Oil pressure kit. I mean I change my oil under every 3,000 miles so i know it doesn't really matter but it just bugs me.

Plus I just like to "mod" **** I am seeing a psychiatrist about it now.
The oil pan is a complete waste of time, money, and effort to install.

The debate over oil temperatures is one that has been totally misunderstood. People believe they have a temperature "problem" without any means to diagnose whether or not a problem exists. I have driven my own RX8 on street conditions in over 115 degree heat just within the past few weeks and have only experienced excessive temperatures while idling in a parking lot.

A larger capacity oil pan will only service to rob you of your hard earned money. I recall a member here who has this same pan having to perform a 10 quart oil change?!? Yes, 10 quarts of oil every oil change. Depending on your choice of oil you are looking easily at a $100 oil change every time.

Then, as Ray pointed out, if any of those rivets were to let go that would be all she wrote.

There has been clear evidence to show that the RX8 has problems even getting up to temperature during the winter season. I, myself, cannot achieve 180 degree oil temps when it's less than 70 degrees outside under street conditions.

If your oil temperature is excessive you have a COOLING problem, not an oil capacity problem.

So, it might look "nice" but it's nothing but a gimmick. Please don't fix something if it isn't broken.
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so I should cancel my order? Scott promised it was 'in stock' and would ship out right away!

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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Oil temps are not the issue many have made them out to be and more oil to change is of no use, either.
Depends how much you thrash the engine I suppose, you wouldn't believe the size of the oil cooler we have to use, it's 2/3rds the size of the rad...
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Originally Posted by PhillipM
Depends how much you thrash the engine I suppose, you wouldn't believe the size of the oil cooler we have to use, it's 2/3rds the size of the rad...
Of course everything is depending on the application being used. However, you're addressing it from the proper angle which is to cool the oil properly. Increasing the oil capacity only delays the inevitable. The oil is still subjected to the same temperature conditions and at some point will overheat. Perhaps not in the same time frame but the issues will still be the same whether you have a 7 quart system or a 14 quart system.

If you need more cooling then install bigger coolers. The gripe I have is the argument that a street driven RX8 isn't properly oil cooled. When I have to install cooler blocking plates in the winter in the middle of the desert there's obviously enough cooling.
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hmm ... new Mazda fuel pump 50 bux ... yeah ... sure ...

and that oil pan ... wow ... I rather go back to Mazda's competition parts ...
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This is like a bad case of herpes. You just can't get rid of this ****.
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This is like a bad case of herpes. You just can't get rid of this ****.
I wasn't aware there was a good case of herpes. Either way, i'm so excited to see that this **** is still out there. I'm tempted to buy something just to leave negative feedback for his first one.
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headlight washer fluid bottle ?

Is that even an option for USDM RX-8 ?

hmm ...
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
some sucker will come along and buy those awesome parts.
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so I should cancel my order? Scott promised it was 'in stock' and would ship out right away!

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Anyone ever look at oil capacity in almost any racecar....

I'll take my 10qt oil change any day......and it's $120 oil cost...and expensive oil filters

Over a stock oil pan with less non-syn 5-30 and the crappy paper filters any day

As for the rivets....ask Boeing what they think of rivets

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Originally Posted by dannobre
Anyone ever look at oil capacity in almost any racecar....

I'll take my 10qt oil change any day......and it's $120 oil cost...and expensive oil filters

Over a stock oil pan with less non-syn 5-30 and the crappy paper filters any day
Your RX8 is not a race car.
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And your opinion is not impartial or unbiased in this regard

There is no way more oil capacity is a bad thing in any regard......

Or more cooling capacity.....
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If you're worried about any oil left in the pan after a change then I hate to be the one to remind you of all the oil that's in the hoses leading to and from the oil coolers.. as well as the coolers themselves.
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Originally Posted by dannobre
And your opinion is not impartial or unbiased in this regard


Yes, I'm totally biased and incapable of objectivity.
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Originally Posted by Flashwing


Yes, I'm totally biased and incapable of objectivity.

That might be a little harsh
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Originally Posted by dannobre
That might be a little harsh
I'm usually pretty hard on myself.


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