I think my dealership screwed me. Do these look like factory Springs?
07-09-2010, 03:03 PM
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I think my dealership screwed me. Do these look like factory Springs?
Long story.. full thing can be found at http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95609
any information on the other problems would be amazing. But somebody turned me onto this forum to see if anybody could help me identify these springs.
I was told I was being sold high performance springs with my purchase of my car back in 2008.. All these other problems have turned up the fact that these springs look and ride absolutely stock.
Please tho like I said feel free to my other more major problems either on here, the other forums or at my email address of motegiracer85@gmail.com
Thx in advance
any information on the other problems would be amazing. But somebody turned me onto this forum to see if anybody could help me identify these springs.
I was told I was being sold high performance springs with my purchase of my car back in 2008.. All these other problems have turned up the fact that these springs look and ride absolutely stock.
Please tho like I said feel free to my other more major problems either on here, the other forums or at my email address of motegiracer85@gmail.com
Thx in advance
07-09-2010, 03:10 PM
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high performance springs? you mean like harder springs? you cant really tell by looking at it.
and you said it feels like stock springs? how hard do you think it would be high performance springs? rock hard?
and you said it feels like stock springs? how hard do you think it would be high performance springs? rock hard?
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07-09-2010, 03:36 PM
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bilstein's are what they were suppose to be. shocks/springs. from everywhere i've researched they're almost always yellow and not black. I couldnt get a good a good angle with my phone but the shocks say mazda and the springs are just straight black.
07-09-2010, 03:59 PM
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I believe the sport version and above RX8's have firmer springs thats all.
07-09-2010, 04:08 PM
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thats what i was told atleast, and what my sticker says at least.
They wanted an additional 5K for my tires and rims so they said if they took them off that they would deduct the 5K from the sticker price. so they did and then they came back and told me well hey... the cost to remove the shocks and springs labor wise outweights the cost of the shocks themselves (800 dollars he said) which i dont buy that it costed 800 dollars in labor to remove them. but he gave me in writing that I was getting the shocks/springs for free since it was too expensive too remove them, now in light of all my other problems im seeing these.
I mean it could be an honest mistake but with all the other shady stuff going on involving this dealership then i wouldnt be surprised if something else was up.
They wanted an additional 5K for my tires and rims so they said if they took them off that they would deduct the 5K from the sticker price. so they did and then they came back and told me well hey... the cost to remove the shocks and springs labor wise outweights the cost of the shocks themselves (800 dollars he said) which i dont buy that it costed 800 dollars in labor to remove them. but he gave me in writing that I was getting the shocks/springs for free since it was too expensive too remove them, now in light of all my other problems im seeing these.
I mean it could be an honest mistake but with all the other shady stuff going on involving this dealership then i wouldnt be surprised if something else was up.
07-09-2010, 04:32 PM
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thats what i was told atleast, and what my sticker says at least.
They wanted an additional 5K for my tires and rims so they said if they took them off that they would deduct the 5K from the sticker price. so they did and then they came back and told me well hey... the cost to remove the shocks and springs labor wise outweights the cost of the shocks themselves (800 dollars he said) which i dont buy that it costed 800 dollars in labor to remove them. but he gave me in writing that I was getting the shocks/springs for free since it was too expensive too remove them, now in light of all my other problems im seeing these.
I mean it could be an honest mistake but with all the other shady stuff going on involving this dealership then i wouldnt be surprised if something else was up.
They wanted an additional 5K for my tires and rims so they said if they took them off that they would deduct the 5K from the sticker price. so they did and then they came back and told me well hey... the cost to remove the shocks and springs labor wise outweights the cost of the shocks themselves (800 dollars he said) which i dont buy that it costed 800 dollars in labor to remove them. but he gave me in writing that I was getting the shocks/springs for free since it was too expensive too remove them, now in light of all my other problems im seeing these.
I mean it could be an honest mistake but with all the other shady stuff going on involving this dealership then i wouldnt be surprised if something else was up.
what??they don't look stock, from what i remember, but i can't be sure. i can't really makes heads or tails of what you're saying, but it's seems way to complicated, i wouldn't have bought from there.
07-09-2010, 04:34 PM
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after reading your link...why did you have an antenna in your trunk lid anyway?? some aftermarket thing, or maybe sirius? random point i guess, just never seen an 8 with a trunk antenna.
07-09-2010, 05:25 PM
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I think.
1. Those springs are not stock and are binding apparently or the pic was taken with the suspension compressed but they still look like they are binding. I have done many spring swaps on RX-8's of all kinds and the factory springs have all been black.
2. Those are factory Tockico shocks, I can tell by the stickers. The only 8's with factory Bilsteins are the Shinka's (I think but have not seen first hand), the 40th anniversary model, and the 2009 & 2010 R3's. And they are yellow on the 40th and the R3 from what I remember so I am assuming its the same on the Shinka.
3. They could be the Mazdaspeed springs and just be worn out. The Mazdaspeed springs don't drop the car much so you likely would not even notice the slight drop.
1. Those springs are not stock and are binding apparently or the pic was taken with the suspension compressed but they still look like they are binding. I have done many spring swaps on RX-8's of all kinds and the factory springs have all been black.
2. Those are factory Tockico shocks, I can tell by the stickers. The only 8's with factory Bilsteins are the Shinka's (I think but have not seen first hand), the 40th anniversary model, and the 2009 & 2010 R3's. And they are yellow on the 40th and the R3 from what I remember so I am assuming its the same on the Shinka.
3. They could be the Mazdaspeed springs and just be worn out. The Mazdaspeed springs don't drop the car much so you likely would not even notice the slight drop.
07-10-2010, 09:47 AM
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2. Those are factory Tockico shocks, I can tell by the stickers. The only 8's with factory Bilsteins are the Shinka's (I think but have not seen first hand), the 40th anniversary model, and the 2009 & 2010 R3's. And they are yellow on the 40th and the R3 from what I remember so I am assuming its the same on the Shinka.
07-10-2010, 10:30 AM
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Yea those look like Tein H techs to me, gold coloring and wraps alittle bit more at the top. Tein S tech are green, I could be wrong but yea they look like Tein H techs, and those are Grand Touring model shocks by tokico.
http://www.tein.com/products/high_tech.html
http://www.tein.com/products/high_tech.html
07-10-2010, 12:32 PM
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Yea those look like Tein H techs to me, gold coloring and wraps alittle bit more at the top. Tein S tech are green, I could be wrong but yea they look like Tein H techs, and those are Grand Touring model shocks by tokico.
http://www.tein.com/products/high_tech.html
http://www.tein.com/products/high_tech.html
Springs for sure, the MS shocks are bright blue I think.
07-12-2010, 02:48 PM
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I'll go along with Laythor as the stock springs are black.
The shock looks stock, but if its Mazdaspeed they would have that sticker on it.
By the way..... you can't tell if there's any differance unless you track it or have driven several stock RX8's. That's why replacing springs and shocks are bullshit as he can't use them on the street. Thery're only good for the track.
The shock looks stock, but if its Mazdaspeed they would have that sticker on it.
By the way..... you can't tell if there's any differance unless you track it or have driven several stock RX8's. That's why replacing springs and shocks are bullshit as he can't use them on the street. Thery're only good for the track.
07-13-2010, 10:03 AM
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Yeah I really am not worried about the springs too much. Just trying to get more stuff to pin them with mainly to fix my more prudent problems. Like my paint, and my antenna being stuck on by double sided tape lol.
Spent a while one the phone with the dealerships owner group and GM. This is our 8th car we've bought from them so they seemed like they were gonna repaint it for me. Let's hope so, I'm gonna ask for a different color than that shitty silver. It faded crazy fast
Spent a while one the phone with the dealerships owner group and GM. This is our 8th car we've bought from them so they seemed like they were gonna repaint it for me. Let's hope so, I'm gonna ask for a different color than that shitty silver. It faded crazy fast