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Jinkaz 07-09-2010 03:03 PM

I think my dealership screwed me. Do these look like factory Springs?
 
Long story.. full thing can be found at http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95609

any information on the other problems would be amazing. But somebody turned me onto this forum to see if anybody could help me identify these springs.

I was told I was being sold high performance springs with my purchase of my car back in 2008.. All these other problems have turned up the fact that these springs look and ride absolutely stock.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d4...85/photo-1.jpg

Please tho like I said feel free to my other more major problems either on here, the other forums or at my email address of motegiracer85@gmail.com

Thx in advance

jasonrxeight 07-09-2010 03:10 PM

high performance springs? you mean like harder springs? you cant really tell by looking at it.
and you said it feels like stock springs? how hard do you think it would be high performance springs? rock hard?

otakurx 07-09-2010 03:36 PM

Well those look nothing like how I remember my stock springs looking, but my memory could be foggy.

Jinkaz 07-09-2010 03:36 PM

bilstein's are what they were suppose to be. shocks/springs. from everywhere i've researched they're almost always yellow and not black. I couldnt get a good a good angle with my phone but the shocks say mazda and the springs are just straight black.

jasonrxeight 07-09-2010 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by Jinkaz (Post 3629144)
bilstein's are what they were suppose to be. shocks/springs. from everywhere i've researched they're almost always yellow and not black. I couldnt get a good a good angle with my phone but the shocks say mazda and the springs are just straight black.

you sure they blistein's?
I believe the sport version and above RX8's have firmer springs thats all.

Jinkaz 07-09-2010 04:08 PM

thats what i was told atleast, and what my sticker says at least.

They wanted an additional 5K for my tires and rims so they said if they took them off that they would deduct the 5K from the sticker price. so they did and then they came back and told me well hey... the cost to remove the shocks and springs labor wise outweights the cost of the shocks themselves (800 dollars he said) which i dont buy that it costed 800 dollars in labor to remove them. but he gave me in writing that I was getting the shocks/springs for free since it was too expensive too remove them, now in light of all my other problems im seeing these.

I mean it could be an honest mistake but with all the other shady stuff going on involving this dealership then i wouldnt be surprised if something else was up.

WTBRotary! 07-09-2010 04:23 PM

Those are not the stock springs for sure...

2tone 07-09-2010 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by Jinkaz (Post 3629182)
thats what i was told atleast, and what my sticker says at least.

They wanted an additional 5K for my tires and rims so they said if they took them off that they would deduct the 5K from the sticker price. so they did and then they came back and told me well hey... the cost to remove the shocks and springs labor wise outweights the cost of the shocks themselves (800 dollars he said) which i dont buy that it costed 800 dollars in labor to remove them. but he gave me in writing that I was getting the shocks/springs for free since it was too expensive too remove them, now in light of all my other problems im seeing these.

I mean it could be an honest mistake but with all the other shady stuff going on involving this dealership then i wouldnt be surprised if something else was up.

:uhh: what??

they don't look stock, from what i remember, but i can't be sure. i can't really makes heads or tails of what you're saying, but it's seems way to complicated, i wouldn't have bought from there.

Jinkaz 07-09-2010 04:32 PM

cool thx! Thats all I was looking for :)

2tone 07-09-2010 04:34 PM

after reading your link...why did you have an antenna in your trunk lid anyway?? some aftermarket thing, or maybe sirius? random point i guess, just never seen an 8 with a trunk antenna.

Jinkaz 07-09-2010 04:39 PM

sirius.. and everything is tied into that antenna so i cant get any reception on FM at all either

Bigbacon 07-09-2010 04:46 PM

Mazdaspeed springs are gray like that

2tone 07-09-2010 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by Bigbacon (Post 3629232)
Mazdaspeed springs are gray like that

oh that makes it interesting...

9krpmrx8 07-09-2010 05:25 PM

I think.

1. Those springs are not stock and are binding apparently or the pic was taken with the suspension compressed but they still look like they are binding. I have done many spring swaps on RX-8's of all kinds and the factory springs have all been black.

2. Those are factory Tockico shocks, I can tell by the stickers. The only 8's with factory Bilsteins are the Shinka's (I think but have not seen first hand), the 40th anniversary model, and the 2009 & 2010 R3's. And they are yellow on the 40th and the R3 from what I remember so I am assuming its the same on the Shinka.

3. They could be the Mazdaspeed springs and just be worn out. The Mazdaspeed springs don't drop the car much so you likely would not even notice the slight drop.

SmallsRHIT 07-10-2010 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 3629288)
2. Those are factory Tockico shocks, I can tell by the stickers. The only 8's with factory Bilsteins are the Shinka's (I think but have not seen first hand), the 40th anniversary model, and the 2009 & 2010 R3's. And they are yellow on the 40th and the R3 from what I remember so I am assuming its the same on the Shinka.

I didn't go out and check, but I'm pretty sure they're yellow on the 40th as well.

VashGS 07-10-2010 10:14 AM

Maybe it's a Tein? They make some with that coloration.

Junirol 07-10-2010 10:30 AM

Yea those look like Tein H techs to me, gold coloring and wraps alittle bit more at the top. Tein S tech are green, I could be wrong but yea they look like Tein H techs, and those are Grand Touring model shocks by tokico.


http://www.tein.com/products/high_tech.html

laythor 07-10-2010 10:44 AM

they look like mazdaspeed struts and springs

rodjonathan 07-10-2010 10:45 AM

im 99 percent sure theyre not stock the stock springs look different those look shorter too and your car looks dropped in the pic so theyre probably aftermarket

VashGS 07-10-2010 11:04 AM

Tein lowering springs? lol

9krpmrx8 07-10-2010 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by SmallsRHIT (Post 3629823)
I didn't go out and check, but I'm pretty sure they're yellow on the 40th as well.

They are yellow for sure on the 40th, I just installed a set of Tein S techs on a 40th. I had one of our local R3 owners check and his shocks are yellow as well.


Originally Posted by Junirol (Post 3629837)
Yea those look like Tein H techs to me, gold coloring and wraps alittle bit more at the top. Tein S tech are green, I could be wrong but yea they look like Tein H techs, and those are Grand Touring model shocks by tokico.


http://www.tein.com/products/high_tech.html

Nah, I just installed a set of H-Techs not too long ago and they are a deep gold.


Originally Posted by laythor (Post 3629843)
they look like mazdaspeed struts and springs

Springs for sure, the MS shocks are bright blue I think.

JinDesu 07-12-2010 10:39 AM

If it's MS springs, it has a sparkly effect to the paint. If you saw that, then yes it is. If it's just gray, then it's not.

Razz1 07-12-2010 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by laythor (Post 3629843)
they look like mazdaspeed struts and springs

I'll go along with Laythor as the stock springs are black.

The shock looks stock, but if its Mazdaspeed they would have that sticker on it.


By the way..... you can't tell if there's any differance unless you track it or have driven several stock RX8's. That's why replacing springs and shocks are bullshit as he can't use them on the street. Thery're only good for the track.

J8635621 07-12-2010 02:55 PM

MS springs...I'd almost be willing to put money on it. Sucks that the dealer is being shady.

Jinkaz 07-13-2010 10:03 AM

Yeah I really am not worried about the springs too much. Just trying to get more stuff to pin them with mainly to fix my more prudent problems. Like my paint, and my antenna being stuck on by double sided tape lol.

Spent a while one the phone with the dealerships owner group and GM. This is our 8th car we've bought from them so they seemed like they were gonna repaint it for me. Let's hope so, I'm gonna ask for a different color than that shitty silver. It faded crazy fast


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