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Old 03-13-2017, 04:38 PM
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AIT reading 90° above ambient

Ambient was 33 and my intake temperature was 110. Wtf?
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Was that idling? It is very common heat soak to raise the intake temp closer to coolant temp when the car is sitting.

If it was 90 above ambient when you are driving you should check the IAT sensor when the vehicle is cold and compare to ambient temp cause that isn't normal
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Yeah idling. One of my mafs triggers an ait circuit high every time I put it in but my oem maf doesn't. I'll check on cold start and while driving. It would explain the poor performance of the engine
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One of your MAFS? There is only one and at idle that would be normal at idle as the MAF sensor gets heat soaked and the IAT sensor is built into the MAF.
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Sorry I meant when I change them out. Denso one triggers it. I bought another used one because my maf reading is about 4.4g/s my idle it's low around 820 and my ltft is 10. Trying to put everything together maybe my maf wiring is bad
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If you are having problems then you need to have someone who knows what they are looking at diagnose it.

Or try and follow the troubleshooting guide here:

http://foxed.ca/rx7manual/2003mazdar..._S01_0016.html
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Thanks. I've checked everything from fuel pressure to gutting my cat. Cleaned ssv, New ignition, compression tested, vacuum leaks checked. No check engine light.
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Compression results?
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I went to a rotary shop called elite rotary shop, said that compression is good but didn't give me the numbers. Plus starts up hot every time within a second
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Sounds like they took you for a ride. Typically anyone that refers to themselves as an expert, elite, etc will.
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Nah, they're pretty popular in the area
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Why are you not using an OEM MAF? That's the first thing I would do is go back to the OEM one...or a new OEM one. Aftermarket and rebuilt MAF units are notoriously flake

if you are getting an IAT high code I would expect the unit isn't working properly or isn't the correct unit
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Yes I am using an oem one. I just thought the Denso one triggering circuit high would be a clue to my low maf readings
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Low MAF + high LTFT at idle =vacuum leak. Gotta catch them all!

You ECU sees 4.4g/s of air, adds the corresponding amount of fuel and finds that the O2 sensor shows lean, so trims in more fuel to get back to stoich. If it has to add 10% more fuel, means you have 10% more air coming in somewhere that is not the MAF.
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I'm gonna smoke test it, where should I attach the smoke machine? Spraying carb cleaner didn't help anything
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Nah, they're pretty popular in the area


When you pay for a compression test on a rotary you get results so that you can compare those results to the factory chart to determine if the results are passing or failing. No results = you got took.
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I understand what you're saying but I'm positive I didn't get screwed. He did my clutch too, was honest with everything. If He wanted to rebuild my engine then I'd be sketched out. Even though, I know compression is not at fault. Would you know where it's best to attach a smoke test? Brake booster? Or one off the intake lines?
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Originally Posted by Trex87
I understand what you're saying but I'm positive I didn't get screwed. He did my clutch too, was honest with everything. If He wanted to rebuild my engine then I'd be sketched out. Even though, I know compression is not at fault. Would you know where it's best to attach a smoke test? Brake booster? Or one off the intake lines?
You don't know.

And the brake booster line would be fine.
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That's true too, you never know. Ok thanks
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Well you do if you pay for a compression test and get actual results. That is the whole point, to get an idea of how healthy it is versus some wrench jockey telling you "it's fine".
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In with 9k on this one. I paid for my compression tester because I wanted to know for SURE that I was doing fine.
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One would think that the numbers would be givin without question. However, Elite Rotary SEEMS to be a reasonably established private RE tuning company. So I find that kind of weird.,.
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Listen to 9k. I had a "Well known, and reliable" builder rebuild my motor, and compression isnt even passing with a slew of new parts. This guy had like 6-8 FD's and a few other nice cars there so i was like, ok. He has nice cars and everyone i talk to seems like he's a great builder, that was a huge load and should have seen the signs lol. Take it from me, someone who probably lost a few k, if they're not fully disclosing #'s etc. go somewhere that will! Good luck
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Originally Posted by Loki
Low MAF + high LTFT at idle =vacuum leak. Gotta catch them all!

You ECU sees 4.4g/s of air, adds the corresponding amount of fuel and finds that the O2 sensor shows lean, so trims in more fuel to get back to stoich. If it has to add 10% more fuel, means you have 10% more air coming in somewhere that is not the MAF.
What about high MAF and high LTFT at idle? What does that mean?
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Originally Posted by Nisaja
What about high MAF and high LTFT at idle? What does that mean?
High MAF makes no sense, the car shouldn't be pumping more air than fits into it at a given RPM. So either the MAF is crazy or somebody has been messing with the MAF voltage to airflow conversion. Down around idle, it would take a significant voltage difference to produce a slight airflow difference, so I'm leaning toward the latter. Do you have actual voltage and airflow data?


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