ChristInBen

Hi guys,

I guess it's my turn to start this....who votes for this SMG (I think it's called) manu-matic crap tranny or a real manual transmission with clutch?

Okay let's keep aside F1 cars, cuz I know response time is good - but for us who don't live 24/7 on the track and don't "need" the millisecond response time between gears....I don't see the point. I mean, sure I understand that sedans and luxury cars have this to get the "feel" of a manual and that's okay cuz not everyone wants to play around with a clutch, but on sports cars....I believe it takes away from the feel of driving when you are missing the clutch pedal. When I see great sport cars like the Nissan GT-R not even offering a manual tranny as an option and the EVO X which comes only offers a 5-speed manual while the auto has 6 gears, I get disappointed. What do you guys think?

Rems31

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Daemos

He's talking about a different type of transmission than a regular auto.

SMG/DSG boxes are true manual transmissions. They in fact DO have clutches (which if you were to look at a regular automatic transmission those do not) What's the difference? It's all computer controlled so it's faster, has less wear, less mistakes happen, and it's more precise.

There's a reason the GTR only comes with a DSG 6 speed transmission, ditto with the Veryon with it's 7 speed DSG. Performance.

And there are HUGE differences between those transmissions and the Automatic/paddle shifter in the RX8.

Rems31

ah...cuz when he said "a real manual transmission with clutch" I assumed those paddles shifters... my bad...

playdoh43

since youre so hardcore and all about the feel, while youre at it why not get rid of ABS, drive by wire, power steering and traction control too? Then you'll "feel" even more connected to your car. While the rest of the world moves on, maybe you should just get a AE86 corolla like in Initial D and call it a day. I love stick shift, but I wont miss too much :p

rglbegl

There is no replacement for a clutch

I know the auto shifters are getting faster than the true manual shift cars now . . .but who cares. There are certain times when a clutch is what you need, and no automatic system will ever be able to have the same feel.

I would do a paddle shifted car AS LONG AS IT STILL HAS A CLUTCH PEDAL.

Honda already has a concept car that has a clutch, that you dont even need to use, but can if you want to. (same system on their 250 quads)

ChristInBen

Thanks dude! That's exactly what I'm saying....there's NO replacement for a "foot-pedal clutch", I'm almost afraid to say "clutch" cuz I'd get spammed with "SMG has a clutch"! lol So, if a car already has paddle shifters, but has a clutch....I'm okay with that....now it's nothing like the stick and the clutch, but I'd take a paddle shifter with a clutch over a "non-physical clutch" system any day.