i may get the blitz supercharge ....anyone know much about this Brand and this supercharge system??? i did a search and confirm no body here got the blitz supercharge installed.....opinion welcome.

Someone in the far east forum has done this supercharger...If I wasn't
mistaken it should give around 50hp improvement but I think it is
the torque of the car that has a more significant gain...There is also
supposed to be an on/off switch for u to switch off your supercharger
when u don't really need it...that's abt all I know abt this supercharger...
hope it helps...

Hi Rotor - are you aware of the Rotormaster SC from aussie ?
Good for 270 rwhp . There are some write ups on it here .

An on/off switch?

haha an on/off switch like mad max?

i was just gonna say like madd max :p:

I'll just wait for Hymee to complete his!!! I'm waiting anxiously!!

Don't Hold your breath my friend ,After 2 years and no kit ,has to tell you something . There are too many issues with this IMHO.
Turbos have the runs on the board ,just ask Mazda Maniac ,his system has been in use for close to two years and took him two weeks to design from scratch !
My $0.02

So suddenly that means that a supercharger can't work? Guys like Hymee and Richard are doing all of this on their own and are working for the day when they can release a kit. Even some of the turbo kits are only just now coming out. Turbos have only had the run of the board because Greddy rushed their kit to market, flaws and all and then people have been slowly fixing them.

(My favorite comparison) FWIW: Edison went through over 800+ different types of lightbulb before he made one work. Thank god he didn't use your logic and just give up after a while because there were "too many issues". Candles had their run up until that point. I guess we should still be using them. A completely new design concept from scratch and his persistence paid off. That has to tell you something.

i've been seeing advertisements for the blitz supercharger for about a year and a half now in import tuner, turbo, etc. i say let them take their time and do it right, that way when my warranty ends i won't buy something right away that'll blow the motor.

Since the projected numbers between Pettit and Blitz seem to be about the same, I think I'd take the Pettit unit, then again we have yet to be able to make a price comparison.

Thx "dillsrotary" "Brettus"and everyone for the opinion.... i bought the blitz sc kit second hand from japan ..... hope nothing go wrong and i will report the result... thx

Excuse my ignorance but what is the Rotormaster SC? Is it a supercharger that is available now?

I'll start searching!

^^ it's a centrifugal s/c that I believe is released in australia, and costs a pretty coin.

Once in a while if you really want to s/c you can actually buy the kit from ebay (blitz s/c kit). Supposedly it doesn't involve using any piggyback system and just goes of your stock untuned ecu. Power enterprise reported that they were doing this with there s/c and has no problems with it.

^^^
I wasn't aware the blitz is without an ECU upgrade. That's pretty interesting. Can't wait to hear how it goes, Rotor.

Excuse my ignorance but what is the Rotormaster SC? Is it a supercharger that is available now?

I'll start searching!

http://www.rx8club.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1214

This is worth a read :)

I thought that the Blitz SC requires a ECU thats why they dont release it in the US ?

^ beats me, i've read in japan they've been running a few s/c without any neccesary change/modification with the ecu. Sounds strange, but it's true, power enterprise a japanese tuner that has a location in socal, has been running a supercharger w/o an ecu with a fuel pressure regulator and upgraded injectors for awhile with supposedly no problems. Apparently the stock ecu, runs pig rich from stock allowing the ecu part to be overlooked.

HMMMMMM .............

thats interesting .....

Fuel pressure regulator and upgraded injectors ..... where can I find those ? I search around but cant find any results !

if thats the case .... maybe I will give it a shot as well !

HMMMMMM .............

thats interesting .....

Fuel pressure regulator and upgraded injectors ..... where can I find those ? I search around but cant find any results !

if thats the case .... maybe I will give it a shot as well !

For the injectors, you can get them from RC Engineering, or go with the secondaries from an automatic (4 port) RX8, those are 490 cc's vs. the 6 speed primary 2's & secondairy units (380 cc's).

I imagine with a roots type supercharger as small as Blitz's, most of your extra needed fuel happens in the lower rpm ranges where there is plenty of injector capacity left over. Thus allowing the use of the stock computer.

Didn't CRH say that you can run a 50 shot of nitrous on the stock computer as well?

I would definately make sure I had some sort of data logging device if I were installing something like this on the stock ecu though.

as i know the sc kit come with a sub computer plug straight to the factory ecu.... which from my understanding is a pre-programmed a/f map. The kit will arrive in 30 days.

as i know the sc kit come with a sub computer plug straight to the factory ecu.... which from my understanding is a pre-programmed a/f map. The kit will arrive in 30 days.

To the US ?

heheheheheheheeeeeeeeeeee....hahahahahahaahaahaahh ahaahahhaaaa...........finally arrived.

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(My favorite comparison) FWIW: Edison went through over 800+ different types of lightbulb before he made one work. Thank god he didn't use your logic and just give up after a while because there were "too many issues".
Exactly. They were not failures, he successfully found out 800 ways on how not to make a lightbulb.

Congrats. How hard is the install?

Let us know what happened next? ok :)


Hi Rotor - are you aware of the Rotormaster SC from aussie ?
Good for 270 rwhp . There are some write ups on it here .
yes not after I have seen one on fire at the track.

Mind you that was nearly 10 months ago.

heheheheheheheeeeeeeeeeee....hahahahahahaahaahaahh ahaahahhaaaa...........finally arrived.

Can't wait to hear how it goes!

any news? does its look like this pic ? :scratchhe

So without engine management and basic bolt on's this kit could see 250 to the wheels....had no idea....

It the price is reasonable .... I think I'd trust Blitz than Greddy kit

Looks like they even offer a kit for those with an automatic. Too bad they do not offer their SC kits in the states.

I think you can get it into the states just got to import it.

For 7 K ?

No thanks, I would rather get the greddy for 3K, and spend another 3 K for install, better EMS, or something else.

no for 4500...

no for 4500...
Whats taking you so long then? :rolleyes:

iono, waiting for bindons good news one day...

bump

Im about to give it up. This shit takes WAY too long to come out.

Blitz doesnt really care about business in NA, its simple just look at their site, and compare that to HKS .... my god.

Screw you Blitz !

rotor....any update on the blitz SC??

sorry guys.... i got no time for my car recently and as well i am waiting for my intake to arrive. will let everyone know once i install it.

^ is that SC Blitz intake?

looks like the autoexe intake system

YES it is Autoexe intake (sound)^^ system and the installation was so simple, i spent less then 30mins and the sound was great and loud as...... hight rpm i coundt even hear my exhaust (Fujitsubo) . and i may install the SC this weekend if my friend is free

this is a sound clip from autoexe
http://www.autoexe.co.jp/products/ramair/mse959sound.mp3

Finally got time for the installation :jump: :jump: :jump:

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Great looking forward to your review .

Michael

finally... keep it comin :ylsuper:

Do you need to take the engine down for installation ?

Looks pretty sweet from the pics. dont need engine management ?

I'm guessing you don't need an intercooler based on where the SC is being mounted?

that looks like a clutch on the supercharger drive pully. What is that for?

i will try to ans questions with my limited knowledge...lol

nycgps
Do you need to take the engine down for installation ?

No need.... just have to relocate a few things "alternator, the leads of the spark plugs, battery and some bits after the throttle body...etc" to make rooms for the compressor.

dont need engine management ?
Blitz SC came with a boost controller to help with stabilize the boost and a pre-tuned (FUel MaP??) sub-computer, just have to wire it to the original ECU.

Red Devil
I'm guessing you don't need an intercooler based on where the SC is being mounted?
no intercooler for rx8 but i know they do have SC with an intercooler for some other cars.(sxe10 Altezza and celica).

Thats a celica GT-S engine (2ZZ) above. :)

/me gets a tear thinking of the old celica days...

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completed last week and 100% happy with this SC (beyond my expectation) . will review it when i use up the first tank of petrol.

it same's to be a really clean installation

looks like factory built up ...

Will this SC fit LHD 8 ? Cuz yours is RHD.

Looks pretty sweet.

whats the thing in the ashtray picture?

whats the thing in the ashtray picture?
Rotor, you should be able to post bigger pictures if you want.

It looks like you are using a nice camera, but you've shrunk the images down so much it is hard to see anything.

-Mr. Wigggles

Looks pretty clean. Hurry up with that tank of fuel!

I've gotta come & see this - where are you rotor ?

Wow this looks great!

If you can get it on a dyno or borrow someone's Gtech to take some HP/Torque curves that would be huge for the community to see. We all have a pretty good idea what a baseline RX8 looks like so it would at least give us a solid idea on the improvements and what the curve looks like.

damn... when i drive a tank of fuel takes about 40 minutes! 8(

stupid question

I look ad ask some dealer to know the hp and torque gain

nobody can answer me

so you buy the kit without thos informations ? without dyno ???

Yeah, the Blitz supercharger kit is all over the place. In Japan, England, the U.S. its for the RX-8 Auto and Manual... but the problem is I can't get any performance numbers. I see some stuff that it may add 100 HP, but no specific numbers or Dyno.

Somebody, anybody with a Blitz supercharger, please give us some numbers.

theres an article posted a while back documenting a modest gain of 40whp.

you beat me to it. Like he said 40ish whp. Ive always like how it looked tho. It looks kinda cobra-esque. Too bad it wont drop the power of cobras.

im more keen on the increased torque...and also whether the piggy back unit used is efficient enough giving no issues unlike the greddy's emanage.

hope to hear the review very soon now from rotor

theres an article posted a while back documenting a modest gain of 40whp.



for me 40whp is enough ....

I don't wan't to pay for an other trnasmission

and I prefere 40whp from a blitz or hymee compressor and no problem for the engine, ecu and clean installation (hollow)
than 100 whp with a big lag (turbo) putting the engine in danger .....

Yeah the P-Shooter SC kit from Blitz adds like "40+ at a safe set up".

Bump for updates.

I don't wan't to pay for an other trnasmission

and I prefere 40whp from a blitz or hymee compressor and no problem for the engine, ecu and clean installation (hollow)
than 100 whp with a big lag (turbo) putting the engine in danger .....What on earth are you talking about?


You will not need a new transmission if your car generates an additional 100 hp.
There is virtually zero lag with the greddy turbo, boost starts around 2500 rpm. Mash the throttle and you're going to get an immediate full boost.
Engine isn't in danger if it's tuned properly.

Well if the kit can't get me near 100 whp or get me near 300 HP than its not worth it for me. I defintely want to be doing 5 sec or better 0-60 and 13 to 12 sec 1/4 miles.

If the kit gets me there than I will consider it, if not, than I have to pass on it.

Anybody with the Blitz supercharger kit have any numbers they want to put up???

Well if the kit can't get me near 100 whp or get me near 300 HP than its not worth it for me. I defintely want to be doing 5 sec or better 0-60 and 13 to 12 sec 1/4 miles.

If the kit gets me there than I will consider it, if not, than I have to pass on it.

Anybody with the Blitz supercharger kit have any numbers they want to put up???

You're forgetting that this is a roots blower, not a turbo. You're getting the full instant boost of positive displacement. The biggest change will be the low end tourqe. I'm guessing the boost will bleed off up top, hence the not-so-impressive gain in max hp numbers. You should be accelerating much faster with this thing.


I like the idea of this charger, but two things will probably keep me from getting it.

1. roots blowers put out plenty of heat, and heat is already a big enemy of the 8 (and even more so in my AT8 - sue me for owning one).

2. the top end doesn't get much help.

I'd rather have a twin-screw or axial flow.

I defintely have my eyes on that axial flow supercharger and I'm waiting for some numbers on the newer superchargers to come out too. I'm going to go supercharger and not turbo.

The procharger supercharger seems it can deliver the power, http://www.procharger.com/, but costs some serious cash. I want to see if anybody can deliver 300 HP for cheaper.

no more news for the blitz

no dyno maps ?


any review Mr rotor ???? :cwm27:

:Eyecrazy: sorry sorry for the delay on the review, i had too much fun with her and didnt spend time on the internet last week.....

As u guys can see the photos from my previous posts, the BLITZ SC system design to situate at the original position of the alternator. All brackets, mounts, hoses, extension plugs, pulleys and belts are provided for the relocation of the alternator, spark leads, etc…. (basically the job start from the things u see after the throttle body). The whole installation was quite simple for someone with a bit of mechanic background (for sure u need the manual as well). I got stuck with the wiring from the sub-computers to the ECU because I used some stupid clips that won’t clip properly, but other then that everything went smoothly.

No tuning require to the piggy back sub-computers which everything was pre-set by Blitz. The sub-computers helps to control and adjust the fuel map, rpm signal, clutch pulley (on the compressor) and boost. There are only minor boost settings to play around with and the boost is safe to run in between 0.37 to 0.42 hkpa range. Additional info (0.37 (hkPa) Pascal = around 5.35 PSI) to (0.42 (hkPa) Pascal = around 6.10 PSI).

The ON-OFF of the compressor is by controlling the movements on the throttle, by step down the throttle over 35% will activate the electromagnetic clutch (which is the clutch pulley on the compressor unit.) This is one of the good things I like about the system, which allows u to drive normal in town area and behave like a non-supercharged rx8. And you can still gently bring up the rpm within the 35% range. I think the fuel consumption is the same as a standard rx8 when you drive within that 35% range.

:mdrmed: :mdrmed: To step down over 35%.... thats where all the enjoyment is….. :mdrmed: :mdrmed: …. will instantly give u the push all the way to 9000rpm….. :mdrmed: :mdrmed: :mdrmed:

Advantages
Fast responds (instant)
No lag
Matching with the N/A characteristic (power progressively rise with the RPM)
Fuel economy (will provide figures later)

Disadvantages
Standard strut bar (tower bar) will not fit back on
180 speed limit still there…. (mine is a jap version)

Sounds awesome !
So you have no control over the piggyback ?

Nice to hear. What about the air intake, can you keep the stock? Anyone know if this will work on a US car?

do you will dyno it ???

it's a new car "like with turbo rx8"

or just a little boost on the rx8 ???

thanks a lot ...

I'd like to hear about the bost level throughout the powerband.

Seems like you need to get your ECU flashed and take off the rev-limit and speed-limit. Also seems you should be getting some better 0-60 times. Any numbers?

Let us know the maker, if you find a struct bar that can fit. And about the air intake... Should help others.

bump... Rotor having too much fun with his supercharger to post???

hey guy
no more news

everything is right ????

no impress ???

Talked with rotor last week - think he is having too much fun to post :)

Woop his a$$ and force him to write!!! We are waiting!

the car is dead ?????


:scratchhe

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Disadvantages
Standard strut bar (tower bar) will not fit back on



Dude, I'll buy your tower brace, PM me with a $$ if you are interested, mine was missing when I bought the car.

Question.

If stock struct bar wont fit, that means most if not all aftermarket bars wont fit ! HTF !

No way man, I will not drive any car w/o a strut bar anymore

bump

Anybody else have info. on the Blitz supercharger?

I'm curious on the limits of the Blitz (roots) supercharger. I'm seeing on some other threads of people claiming 70 to 80 HP increases with the Blitz.

It does seem that the basic kit is a conservative tune. So perhaps a pro-tuner is able to take the kit from the 40 to 50 HP to a higher number. I'm just curious on how they can be doing that. Are they getting it up to 8psi, 9psi of boost? How? Anybody?

Also, with 70 to 80 HP numbers this would compare to the Pettit and Hymee twinscrew superchargers. So what would be the advantages and disadvantages in comparison to a twinscrew? Is there something left in the Blitz supercharger? Its using a modified roots blower (not the "regular" roots). So is it putting out heat levels comparable to a twinscrew? Maybe intercooler is the reason or what?

I sent an e-mail to blitz to know why there is no blitz supercharger wet in our america land and no answer so far....hope they read our post.... :wiggle:

r0tor

So how is it goin wit your SC kit?
How many miles/KMs u've had with it?
Any issues or is it goin smooth without problems?

anyone with 4at, and blitz supercharger on? any side effect and how much hp u got?

We do have a member on the Far East forums with the Blitz SC installed.

Its a staright bolt on with no tuning necessary though some rehousing is necessary. Dyno numbers put it at a straight up 80bhp increase and a whole lot more torque.

Cant remember his forum handle - but feel free to pop over to the Far East forum and pose your questions there instead.

We do have a member on the Far East forums with the Blitz SC installed.

Its a staright bolt on with no tuning necessary though some rehousing is necessary. Dyno numbers put it at a straight up 80bhp increase and a whole lot more torque.

Cant remember his forum handle - but feel free to pop over to the Far East forum and pose your questions there instead.

i posted a thread a while back there but none did say they installed one

I am the SC and the law!

Roooootor where you at??

80hp? sounds good enough for me . Price isnt too bad. Really thinking about buying one.

I would love to see a Blitz SC Dyno chart. Anybody know of any?

i wonder hows rotor's SC doing...he hasnt posted anything since nearly a year ago

any word about whether this will work over here in the left side drivers? I asked japanparts.com a few weeks ago. They said they'd get back to me about a remap or what, and I haven't heard anything.

I emailed Blitz about buying there SC they never responded back. Where did he get it?

he imported it from Japan 2nd hand

any word about whether this will work over here in the left side drivers? I asked japanparts.com a few weeks ago. They said they'd get back to me about a remap or what, and I haven't heard anything.

It's taken time, but:

I've talked to BLITZ about their Supercharger conversion; they suggest this hasn't been done to a Left hand drive Unit and their concern is compatability of the "piggyback Unit" with the US models ECU; which likely differs to JDM or other export models

The guy that posted about the conversion he has done here in earlier postings is in NZ; that means he will have a Right hand drive ( possibly Japanese domestic ) model RX-8

BLITZ assure us there is *no* issue with a Right Hand Drive model, and we have sold the Supercharger conversion for RHD models, and can confirm that installation wasn't an issue ( Part links below )

http://www.japanparts.com/db/partslist.php?dealer=&car=&middlesmall=&maker=21&volkey=135-037-SE3P

This is what BLITZ has used as a testbed for their Supercharger

We have made the offer several times to RX8 Club members that we will provide a Kit at Cost to an RX8 Club member with a LHD RX-8 provided:

(1) they have access to a professional install shop and/or competent mechanic/engineer who will do the install
(2) we are provided with a decent quality install *blog* as the install happens ( pictures/description )
(3) we are provided with torque/hp dyno figures once the Kits installed

What we will provide is:

The Kit at Cost
Technical support from the manufacturer + translation of the install instructions

What we *won't do* is:

Provide the Kit for Free
Make the offer available to anyone who can't fulfill (1), (2) and (3)
Make the offer to more than one RX8Club member

PM me if you want to followup

Best!
Graham Ware
Export Manager
Japanparts LLC
* Since 1996 *

the question begs: what is "at cost"?

i offered 2k and fulllfillment of 1,2 and 3, but that was too low, if that gives you an idea.

to little to late.

beers :beer:

yeah might as well just get a pettit at that price if you want a SC.

Well the Blitz kit is bling and adds 50-60hp and cheaper than the Pettit kit. I would do it if I had the cash.

Very temping offer .... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

let me think about it.