View Full Version : Superfan's Zainoed BB RX-8 (6 Hours 45 Min)


Superfan
08-17-2003, 07:23 PM
Started at noon today and finished at ~6:45pm. The following pictures go to show that hard work pays off.

Superfan
08-17-2003, 07:23 PM
Pic 2

Superfan
08-17-2003, 07:24 PM
Pic 3...

loco4rx8
08-17-2003, 07:39 PM
Looks awesome! How many coats did you put on?

Genom
08-17-2003, 09:16 PM
How about an all car shot to see the whole thing? BTW, lookds awesome from what can be seen. Cant wait to do my titanium gray next weekend.

cueball
08-17-2003, 11:35 PM
That looks amazing.

Great job and glad to see the hard work paid off.:)

Kuf
08-17-2003, 11:44 PM
Looking DAMN good. Now we HAVE to get together here in SoFL!

Magar
08-18-2003, 04:11 PM
Can you let me know where on the order form chrome is for a color?! :) Looks AWESOME!

Superfan
08-18-2003, 10:55 PM
Here's a 3/4 view.

Z1: 2 thin coats.
Z2: 3 thin coats.

I let it bake in the sun for 1.5 hours. Since the sun was at an angle I turned the car around after 45 minutes. In a futile effort, this morning I grabbed my car cover and threw it in the trunk as it was supposed to rain today. It rained on my way to work lol. :mad:

brothervoodoo
08-18-2003, 11:01 PM
O - M - G ! ! ! :eek:

PoLaK
08-19-2003, 02:11 AM
How did Zaino last after some rain could u do a before and after segment ?

Chadr
08-19-2003, 08:19 AM
Depending on my weekend schedule I am planning on doing my 8 this weekend (red not black so it will almost assuredly be less dramatic) but I can do before Zaino and after Zaino shots with my digicam.

P00Man
08-20-2003, 04:00 PM
omg dude, thats freking nuts...i need to get some of that stuff, i just waxed my car and it thought that looked incredible, but after seeing the sheen and DEPTH zaino puts on...lets just say it doesnt compare lol
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partovi
08-20-2003, 07:09 PM
Why did you use 2 coats of Z-1? You should use some Z5 between your coats of Z-2 because its supposed to really look good on black. Looks awesome though....just like my black M6.

LesPaul
09-04-2003, 01:02 PM
I've got three coats of McGuires on. Do I need to strip it off before doing the Zaino thing? Or can I just apply it over the wax? Any advice is appreciated.

Speed Racer
09-04-2003, 01:18 PM
You will need to wash the car with Dawn to strip the wax off of the car before applying Zaino.

LesPaul
09-04-2003, 03:47 PM
Thanks for the advice. My 8 is black so it looks fantastic clean, but ugh, it's a constant effort to keep it that way. I'm thinking that going the Zaino route may be best. Should help me build up my biceps too.

Genom
09-05-2003, 05:23 AM
To save yourself some grief, might I suggest you just wait for the WAX to wear off? You already did all the work, and it looks good, so wait a few months and then Zaino it instead of re-waxing.

LesPaul
09-06-2003, 09:46 AM
Good point Genom, except up here in PA it will be getting pretty cold soon and Zaino seems to be very temperature sensitive. I ordered the starter kit, got special towels, so I think I'll enjoy the wax shine for a couple weeks, then do-the-zaino.

XK4
09-06-2003, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by LesPaul
I've got three coats of McGuires on. Do I need to strip it off before doing the Zaino thing? Or can I just apply it over the wax? Any advice is appreciated.

Yes. Wash your car with Dawn dishwashing liquid to remove any wax. Here's a link to the application notes on the Zaino (http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=Z&Category_Code=APPLICATION) site.

Dave

Mazda man
09-10-2003, 04:44 PM
Oh man...now that is shiny! Good job.:D

English
09-12-2003, 04:40 PM
THAT"S why I picked the black....It looks InZaino!!!

LesPaul
09-15-2003, 03:30 PM
Used Dawn (three times) then the full Zaino treatment. Looks like its been coated in clear oil. Beautiful.

Superfan: I thought I read the Zaino directions that said not to put more than three coats of Z2, Z5 in a 24 hour period. Yet it didn't seem to bother your results. Also, I don't think baking in the sun will make any difference. With the accelerator, when it's dry, it's done (about 15 minutes). For what it's worth...

BigOLundh
08-27-2005, 11:14 AM
By any chance can you repost the pics. I never got a chance to see them, and am curious to see how Zaino works on black.

Thanks

BlueRenesis82
08-27-2005, 11:58 AM
no more pics

djgiron
08-29-2005, 01:50 AM
yeah, no pics . . . please :)

arr ex eight
08-29-2005, 03:38 AM
bump no pics

Brice-RX8
08-29-2005, 08:58 AM
see if posting a random pic makes the original pics show up again. It worked, sorry seen someone else do this and it worked.

terrypk1
08-30-2005, 03:21 AM
how did you do it. i am never able to get my black RX8 to perfect condition
PLEASE TEACH ME. I SPEND LIKE 4 HOURS A week to make it better
but it never works to be in such perfection. SAVE ME

-=Rowdy=-
08-30-2005, 04:20 AM
You can get a shine like that with most high-end polishes. You don't need 6 hours. Claybar,Cleaner (like Klasse AIO),then Polymer wax. Zaino is ok but there are at least 5-6 other types out there that perform as well and longer.

NavyDood
08-30-2005, 11:27 AM
You can get a shine like that with most high-end polishes. You don't need 6 hours. Claybar,Cleaner (like Klasse AIO),then Polymer wax. Zaino is ok but there are at least 5-6 other types out there that perform as well and longer.

Obviously someone hasn't done their research.

yellowRX
08-30-2005, 12:12 PM
Zaino is great and i'm glad that i'm not the only one that spends so much time on my car :) check out the link to my zaino pics, and it was only one coat. I wonder how it would look if I did a few more. http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=61272

Kawi
08-30-2005, 05:46 PM
BigOLundh:
Check out the Best Zaino Applications thread. I recently posted the results on my black RX.
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=21374&page=2

-=Rowdy=-
09-01-2005, 04:05 PM
Obviously someone hasn't done their research.

On the contrary, you obviously haven't done yours. I am confident that I know more about what goes into detailing an automobile than the majority out there and that includes yourself. Do you do it for a living? I doubt it. Zaino has a great shine but for the price as well as the time spent, there are plenty of other alternatives like Poor Boy's and Klasse and quite a few other products that give as well as a shine if not better with protection that meets or beats it.

Fanboys are alive and well... :rolleyes:

NavyDood
09-01-2005, 09:38 PM
On the contrary, you obviously haven't done yours. I am confident that I know more about what goes into detailing an automobile than the majority out there and that includes yourself. Do you do it for a living? I doubt it. Zaino has a great shine but for the price as well as the time spent, there are plenty of other alternatives like Poor Boy's and Klasse and quite a few other products that give as well as a shine if not better with protection that meets or beats it.

Fanboys are alive and well... :rolleyes: Roll your eyes all you want. The proof has been debated more times than needed. Time? Yes the first time is lengthy, after that it will take you no longer than any other polish. As for pricey... maybe it is a tad more. But that tad more gives what no one else can. Shine, depth, light refraction, durability, longevity, and reflection are un-beatable.

We can argue this all you want. Yes, there are others that can come close, but the key word there is... close.

-=Rowdy=-
09-01-2005, 09:45 PM
Roll your eyes all you want. The proof has been debated more times than needed. Time? Yes the first time is lengthy, after that it will take you no longer than any other polish. As for pricey... maybe it is a tad more. But that tad more gives what no one else can. Shine, depth, light refraction, durability, longevity, and reflection are un-beatable.

We can argue this all you want. Yes thee are others that can come close, but they always fall.

Your whole content is purely subjective as far as shine goes and Zaino in general. There are countless professional detailers that know of many combinations that give the same shine and better. Where is your proof? Where is your data that says Zaino is superior? I could put Zaino on my 8 and post pics and get oohs and aaahs. I could also post pics with Klasse AIO and Poor Boy's and get the same thing.

I'm sorry to say but your post still reeks of "fanboy". I'm glad you like Zaino but don't give false indications that it is superior with proof. If you said "I think its the best" then great, but otherwise put your proof where your post is. I would hate to see people here overspend their hard-earned cash on some product that is based on comments such as yours and your "proof". The guy who put Zaino on his car made his car look nice. I simply stated that there is a way to get the same shine and better by using other products.

Baller
09-01-2005, 10:00 PM
The Baller is the king of shine, and Rowdy is correct, Zaino is nothing more than great marketing. There are better (much better products for shine) than Sal Zaino's creation.

Thumbs up to superfan, your 8 looks great.

If I had 6 hours of free time I sure would not waste my time with Zaino, it would be in a casino chasing blondes.

wisconsinben
09-07-2005, 11:15 AM
So let's say a newb is looking for a better than Zaino shine in less than 6 hours...what products should I be purchasing and what techniques should I be using?

RotaryNoob
09-08-2005, 12:43 AM
I agree that Zaino is not the end all be all of polish.

I personally use Poorboys line of products finished with a coat of meguairs NXT and the shine is just as good in 3 hours.

I think the deal breaker is my Porter Cable random orbit polisher though.

staticlag
09-08-2005, 03:05 AM
You guys are silly.

5 coats of any wax with intital cleansing is going to take any combination of polishes/waxes/cleaners a good 6 hours. That pretty normal.

Zaino is touted to be the longest lasting shine available. It indeed has been proven that there are waxes that are shinier than zaino, klasse, NXT, zymol also, and probably a few others. They are simply shinier.

But what makes zaino stand out from the rest, is the fact that one month down the line, two months, three months, through rain, dust, and road junk, it will remain the same shinyness as that day that you decided to spend 6 hours on it. That is where zaino clearly and undisputably rules. No ifs, ands or buts.

What zaino owners try and get by spending hours on end, is a shine to rival or best these waxes. But the thing that remains, is zainos unbeatable protection.

I've used meguires carnuba, meguires NXT, turtle wax, and finally zaino. And zaino does outlast them all. I could actually see the others' shine fading in as little as 5 days, rainstorm come? That shine was toast. But not zaino.

Those are just the facts.

6speed8
09-08-2005, 07:38 AM
The big visible difference is Zaino is NOT a wax and waxes yellow over time, usually after about a month. The other thing is Waxes simply CANNOT last as long. So Zaino will (by design it has to) look better over time and last longer. Isn't that what we are all really looking for?

PLUS - Zaino looks better with each additional layer, layering wax only results in a duller looking finish over time as each layer starts to yellow.

In 30 years of detailing my own cars, I have not found any product that comes close for ease of application, shine, durability and cost-over-time than Zaino. If there was a better product I would be using it, cause as I get older, I find myself not having the time or wanting to spend the time every month stripping and waxing my car.

Zaino allows me to go six months or more easily without having to apply additional coats. Show me a product that does all that, does not require me to use a Cable Porter, does not wear-out my arms, can be applied in a wide range of temperature/climates, does not leave white residue on black trim, smells great,
is really inexpensive when you consider how little is used per application and can be ordered via the internet and at my door in 3 or 4 days.

Baller
09-08-2005, 11:18 AM
The big visible difference is Zaino is NOT a wax and waxes yellow over time, usually after about a month. The other thing is Waxes simply CANNOT last as long. So Zaino will (by design it has to) look better over time and last longer. Isn't that what we are all really looking for?

PLUS - Zaino looks better with each additional layer, layering wax only results in a duller looking finish over time as each layer starts to yellow.

In 30 years of detailing my own cars, I have not found any product that comes close for ease of application, shine, durability and cost-over-time than Zaino. If there was a better product I would be using it, cause as I get older, I find myself not having the time or wanting to spend the time every month stripping and waxing my car.

Zaino allows me to go six months or more easily without having to apply additional coats. Show me a product that does all that, does not require me to use a Cable Porter, does not wear-out my arms, can be applied in a wide range of temperature/climates, does not leave white residue on black trim, smells great,
is really inexpensive when you consider how little is used per application and can be ordered via the internet and at my door in 3 or 4 days.


Sal is that you?

6speed8
09-08-2005, 11:52 AM
Damn Baller, I was gonna put a disclosure on the end of my above mentioned writup that excluded you - LOL

For the record I am NOT Sal Zaino and I am in no way connected to/with Zaino, I do not get any revenue from Zaino or from mentioning it. I just think when a product works, and works this good, other people should be informed.

With that said, It is well known (on this board) that Baller does not like Zaino products. although the reason is a little foggy as to why. With the exception of perhaps a handful, almost everyone who tries Zaino usually agrees it is great.

I personally have no experience with it on darker colors, all my cars are/have been Silver (perhaps because Zaino works wonders on Silver).

I respect Baller's opinion of Zaino, but I don't understand the why.

Baller
09-08-2005, 12:47 PM
Damn Baller, I was gonna put a disclosure on the end of my above mentioned writup that excluded you - LOL

For the record I am NOT Sal Zaino and I am in no way connected to/with Zaino, I do not get any revenue from Zaino or from mentioning it. I just think when a product works, and works this good, other people should be informed.

With that said, It is well known (on this board) that Baller does not like Zaino products. although the reason is a little foggy as to why. With the exception of perhaps a handful, almost everyone who tries Zaino usually agrees it is great.

I personally have no experience with it on darker colors, all my cars are/have been Silver (perhaps because Zaino works wonders on Silver).

I respect Baller's opinion of Zaino, but I don't understand the why.

I am sure it (Zaino) is great stuff, your RX-8 looks great.
I also love silver cars, so we both agree that silver 8's look great.
I would bet that you would like the shine Zaino gave my Honda lawnmower, it really sparkles. I also use it on my bowling balls.
I love your post man, but it is fun to mess with Zaino.
I want to party with you cowboy!!!!
If I buy you some Zymol Concours would you try it?

6speed8
09-08-2005, 02:21 PM
Actually I have tried Zymol 'Japon' - I was not impressed with applying, removing and duability.

Baller
09-08-2005, 02:28 PM
Actually I have tried Zymol 'Japon' - I was not impressed with applying, removing and duability.

Step up to Concours and have someone else do it while you spend quality time with Johnnie Walker. In a couple of hours you will notice how nice everything looks.

BigOLundh
09-08-2005, 04:58 PM
see if posting a random pic makes the original pics show up again. It worked, sorry seen someone else do this and it worked.
i can't believe that actually worked.
thanks

BigOLundh
09-08-2005, 05:01 PM
BigOLundh:
Check out the Best Zaino Applications thread. I recently posted the results on my black RX.
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=21374&page=2
thanks man

salituro64
09-08-2005, 05:25 PM
Does the whole Zaino process help eliminate minor surface scratches? Similar to what Scratch-X does.