View Full Version : Back in the saddle, ported w/bigger injectors


Sapphonica
12-09-2005, 10:30 PM
Yay!

I picked up my rebuilt 8 today. It now has an ACT clutch, mild street port, 650cc injectors, Racing Beat oil pump mod, and no eManage.

Once I clock 1,000 miles, I'll take it in for tuning and at long last post some dynos.

dannobre
12-09-2005, 10:42 PM
Good luck man.....hope to see some good #'s............

IZoomZoomI
12-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Congrats, you sure went through a long journey to get to where you're at lol. Lots of headaches before, hopefully you won't get anymore headaches with the turbo :)

army_rx8
12-10-2005, 12:42 AM
yea......congrats...keep us posted :)

zoomzoom_8
12-10-2005, 01:25 AM
so your still running the turbo but no emanage? what are your running to add fuel under boost?

Moostafa29
12-10-2005, 05:59 AM
I'd love to hear your impressions after you get everything set up. Who is doing your tuning?

Hybrid-RX8
12-10-2005, 09:15 AM
Which set of injectors did you replace with the 650CC ones? Any additional fuel upgrades necessary to run the 650 CC? Ie..fuel rail, pumps? Or was it just a direct drop in?

cretinx
12-10-2005, 11:41 AM
wouldn't you need some sort of ECU to lean out the injectors in some spots and add fuel in others?

Sapphonica
12-10-2005, 12:02 PM
The injectors were drop in, & I replaced the aux injectors.

I'm using a device that takes complete control of the fuel and ignition. It will also control boost (no sense in hooking up a boost controller 'till I get 1000 miles on the new engine).

:kiss:

Moostafa29
12-10-2005, 12:26 PM
Spill the beans! Are you using the Xcede, or some other company in the area do a custom ems?

MadDog
12-10-2005, 02:56 PM
"auxiliary injectors"? Which ones specifically? The primary 1, primary 2, or secondary?

Sapphonica
12-10-2005, 03:04 PM
Not trying to be coy, but the folks I'm working with have asked me not to divulge their identity until they've decided one way or the other whether or not they will officially offer a product for the RX-8.

I think they're the aux injectors.

Moostafa29
12-10-2005, 07:21 PM
How is the noise level after porting, compared to before?

Sapphonica
12-10-2005, 09:21 PM
The noise level is about the same after porting.

BaronVonBigmeat
12-12-2005, 12:42 AM
Now that I think of it...have any of the ported RX-8's so far been properly tuned and then dyno tested? :confused: Just don't leave us hanging!

Moostafa29
12-12-2005, 10:30 AM
^ This is the first ported rx8 that I have heard of with turbo, so I'd say thats a no.

Sapphonica
12-12-2005, 11:13 AM
Once I get 1,000 miles on this engine, I'll get it tuned & post results.

Asmoran
12-12-2005, 11:30 AM
It's been 3 days, what's taking so long ;)

rkostolni
12-13-2005, 03:55 PM
How do you like that ACT clutch? I was thinking about getting one. Is it the street or the extreme version?

zoom44
12-13-2005, 04:11 PM
were there pics of the porting somewhere?

Moostafa29
12-13-2005, 08:40 PM
So did you end up with the 3mm seals?

Sapphonica
12-13-2005, 11:06 PM
The ACT clutch is the street one. It took a bit of getting used to...it totally grabbed within about an inch of letting my foot off the clutch. After a couple of hundred miles, it is getting more dialed in. I really notice a difference over the stock clutch. A big improvement. The labor was 'free' since the engine was pulled, and I need a stronger clutch with all the power I'll be putting to the wheels.

I went with the standard 2mm apex seals. The trick, as I see it, is to avoid detonation versus hoping the extra 1mm will save my bacon. For now, I won't be revving or WOT, but even if I did, those 650cc injectors will make the car so rich it bogs, I'm sure.

Moving forward, I'm going to see if opening the tertiary ports sooner will help me make more power, or at least broaden the power/torque distribution. The engine management device I'm using can control stuff like that, so I'll apprise everyone of those findings when they're available.

Cool-Blue-Dad
12-27-2005, 10:39 AM
Merry Christmas Sapphonica,

Now, spill the beans - did you get your 1,000 miles? Did you get tuned? How you doin'?

Imidazole
12-27-2005, 11:37 AM
...status update!

Sapphonica
01-02-2006, 11:47 PM
I just got to 500 miles on the new engine today.

Once I get 1,000, I'll do the checkup/oil change with Rick, then off to the tuner.

LiL BenNy
12-26-2006, 12:25 AM
bump? (revvives from the dead)

SlideWayz
12-26-2006, 05:02 PM
the 18g flows only a very small fraction of what the ported Renesis needs. Once I have the $$$, I'm going to put either a gt30 or gt35r on it & retune.

smrx8
02-02-2007, 10:21 AM
come back to life!

Wilson
02-02-2007, 11:33 AM
Clear!

ZAPP

Arise.

SlideWayz
02-02-2007, 01:20 PM
Still have the 18g. Power still drops off after 7k rpms because it can't feed the engine. Still getting a couple #s of boost at 2,000 rpm. Oh, and I still loose traction in 1,2, & 3rd gears when the torque comes on at around 5k rpms.

Still broke.

I still want to put a gt35r on this and see what it can really do, but unless anyone is willing/able to help me do the install and/or source the turbo, it an't gonna happen anytime soon.

:banghead:

LiL BenNy
02-07-2007, 12:13 PM
http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=1665616&postcount=11

get a GT2871R instead

MazdaManiac
02-07-2007, 01:23 PM
Sourcing the turbo is easy.
Getting over your preconceived notions of how big to go is hard.
A GT30 will require a bit of work to fit. A GT35 will require an entirely different manifold/DP.

Fanman
02-07-2007, 01:48 PM
Still have the 18g. Power still drops off after 7k rpms because it can't feed the engine. Still getting a couple #s of boost at 2,000 rpm. Oh, and I still loose traction in 1,2, & 3rd gears when the torque comes on at around 5k rpms.

Still broke.

I still want to put a gt35r on this and see what it can really do, but unless anyone is willing/able to help me do the install and/or source the turbo, it an't gonna happen anytime soon.

:banghead:

You do know that a GT35R won't fit where the current T618Z is right ? As MM said it would require some extensive modifications to the manifold. Not simple replacement.

MazdaManiac
02-07-2007, 02:07 PM
Physically, the GT35 is somewhere between the size of an old T3 and a T04 frame.
It can be made to fit, but it is not a bolt-on.
You will need a special set of motor mounts, a new manifold, a new DP, new inlet and outlet pipes and a lot of BFH work to the floor pan.
FWIW, that is what it took to get a hybrid in there. Probably worth the read to look at my threads on the subject.