hows it going guys, This is my first post. Ive been looking around this site for a while getting some good idea. I tried a search but came up with nothing. I have a DEI remote start system i want to install but i was hoping some one could post a wiring diagram of the cars ignition system and anti theft security system. If not i guess i will have to go pick up the wiring diagram book from the dealer. I have a 2004 rx8 manual with all options if you need that info. Thanks for the help!

Don't think you can install remote starting on a manual trans.

You def can. I've seen people on this site that have got it done before, clutch needs to be bypassed which i already did, car now starts without pressing on clutch,. other then that ignition should be exactly the same

check out this diy

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=34516&highlight=remote+start

also check out my diy on turbo timer install as it disables the key sense to allow the alarm to be armed while the engine is running which may also help too.

remote start can definately be installed on a manual transmission, but you wont find very many shops to put it in for you for liability reasons. as to going to a car audio shop and getting the wiring colors for installing an alarm and start, they probably wont give it to you either, unless you are friends with someone that works there, as there is the liability of giving out the info, as you can use it to break into a vehicle and disable the security system. as to bypassing the chip in the key, you need a DEI 556U, and you need to put one of your keys into this so the remote start will work.

i can get you the wiring colors.

this is for the 2004 rx8

http://s93084965.onlinehome.us/RX8/rx8remotestart.jpg

^^you got ballz my friend. hope directed doesnt catch u doing that.

thanx formatsee ill try and do the install this weekend, shouldnt be to hard. let you know how it went

Personally I'd let an installer do it for you...but hey that's just me.

As for remote start on a manual RX-8, I have it on mine. It's actually very safe on the RX-8, because the car has a nuetral wire, meaning, the car knows when the tranny is in gear or not. So first you tie into the e-brake, and then you tie into the neutral wire. If no e-brake, don't start, if e-brake, check nuetral switch...you get the point.

I think i can handle the install. I am going to check how much they would charge to install i do have all the parts, if its not to bad ill let them. I could use alittle less headaches on the weekend after working on BMW's all week. And let me say they suck!! But if its kinda crazi ill do it myself, but thanx for the points about the ebrake and being in gear

Personally I'd let an installer do it for you...but hey that's just me.

As for remote start on a manual RX-8, I have it on mine. It's actually very safe on the RX-8, because the car has a nuetral wire, meaning, the car knows when the tranny is in gear or not. So first you tie into the e-brake, and then you tie into the neutral wire. If no e-brake, don't start, if e-brake, check nuetral switch...you get the point.

where is the neutral safety wire on the mt 8, what color and where at. i would like to know

i have a remote starter for my rx8 manual. my friend did it for me. but u won't find many shops who will do it for you.

Nuetral switch!

devoid, you are the man!!! im gonna check this out, and if it works :D

btw, where is said connector located. i hate the shop manual as it doesnt really give me precise location

Well now that I know you can do it,is there any brand of remote starters that is preferred ? I would love to put one on my 8. Thanks

viper/python/clifford. all made by dei, all good.

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for that chart.. are those DEI harness colors or rx-8 wire colors? i haev a diff brand system

those are teh rx-8 wire colors as provided by dei

thanks for the diagram.

i have a Q... where in the engine bay is the neutral switch located? the diagram gives a general idea but with all the junk in that area id like a more precise area to look for the harness.

i found it, it is about 6 to 10 inches to the rear of the car from the shifter location. there are 2 grey wires that you should see, one will test constant ground, the other will only test ground when the transmission is in neutral. you can also get the wire at the ecu, but i didnt really want to run another wire into the engine bay.

ok thanks, i'll pop the center console off tomorrow and takea look. are they both plain gray? neither has a stripe or anything?

no, no stripe. i apologize, but i wasnt exactly clear there. they are located under the car, right on the transmission. i jacked up the car, and located the wires. then i ran the neutral safety input wire (this is for a dei alarm, so it may be different for your compustar) to the wire by taking the 4 bolts that hold the shifter boot down, lifting that up, and feeding the wire down and back.

ah thats a tough location, may have to wait til the weekend now. thanks again i appreciate all the help.

ive got the thing close to running, all the ignition wires are good, brake, ebrake, parking lights good.. but the damn alarm wont see that the doors are closed! this keeps it from activating reservation mode, meaning it wont remote start. grr. i tapped the black/blue wire to the (-)door trigger of the alarm, its very strange.

nvm, the door trigger wasnt working because there were 2 black/blue wires, i tapped the right one now so the door trigger works, still cant get the thing to run tho.

its not reading the ignition... it doesnt show the car is on when i query thru the remote. its strange, ive tested the ign wire with a light and it lights up when the car is on, if checked continuity between my tap and the end of the ignition harness, and the connections between the tap and the alarm module seems to be ok as well. maybe im just missin something here?

im not sure either, it would help if i had instructions for the compustar

browsing thru the electrical diagrams of the car (page 5 of the electrical section if you have the pdf manual)..

i noticed @ the ignition module: starter- W/L, IG1 B/Y , IG2 L/G, ACC W/R

as opposed the the chart posted in this thread where acc was L/G and ACC2 was W/R? whats the discrepency here?

im still working on my remote start, but have people gotten theirs to work with the wiring in the chart?

yes, i had no problems with the remote start using dei's color codes.

Does anyone know what kind of relays are used for the door triggers? in other words : Negative Door Lock ( 250ma), Negative door lock (more then 250ma), Positive Door Locks;

use a DEI part number 451m

http://www.ultrastarters.com/manuals_download_pdf/English/MAN-45XX-INSTALL-U.pdf

Please look at page 22. it shows you how to connect to the door wire but which one do i use???


use a DEI part number 451m

the power door locks in the rx8 are very similar to locks in most current dodge/chrysler/jeep vehicles where power lock and unlock use the same wire, but apply a negative trigger through a resistor.

the wire is a lt green wire found in the drivers kick, door harness.

the lock is a negative trigger through a 1000 ohm reisitor, and unlock is a straight negative trigger.

if you have your own relays, use the negative trigger, more than 250 ma.

if you dont have your own relays, buy yourself a 451m (its like 10 bucks retail)

the power door locks in the rx8 are very similar to locks in most current dodge/chrysler/jeep vehicles where power lock and unlock use the same wire, but apply a negative trigger through a resistor.

the wire is a lt green wire found in the drivers kick, door harness.

the lock is a negative trigger through a 1000 ohm reisitor, and unlock is a straight negative trigger.

if you have your own relays, use the negative trigger, more than 250 ma.

if you dont have your own relays, buy yourself a 451m (its like 10 bucks retail)

The relays can with the alarm. thanks dude.