After I turned off my DSC control, My car went crazy; lost control on the curve

ran into tree.:(

My right side of the fender and side of the headlight, front bumper got cracked.

Now, I need to drive this car until my new front bumper comes in. I put some

tapes on and it looks fine now. However I have one problem. the accident

messed up my headlight adjustment. Right side of the headlight illuminates a left

side of road; left head light is ok. How can I adjust it?

Have Mazda repair your car. The accident had to have happened from faulty equipment.

no I'm pretty sure it was my fault,

because I made turn pretty hard, forgot that I had turned off my traction control.

i think that was sarcasm?

oh so the car didnt go crazy and try to take you out and itself with you? whew thats a relief one less thing i have to be worried about my car:D

were you or anyone hurt?

Yes it was sarcasm. Sorry, I felt like saying a smart remark. Haven't had that chance today yet. :D Is th headlight a cosmetic problem or just a bad placement problem. Just unscrew it and replace it correctly. If it's cosmetic you may need to buy a new one

You guys are really cruel!

You guys are really cruel!


Thick skin around here does help.. :rolleyes:


Are you going to make a claim on this? Be sure they include the headlight assy in the quote.

thick skin on any online forum helps

Thick skin around here does help.. :rolleyes:


Are you going to make a claim on this? Be sure they include the headlight assy in the quote.
:D

After I turned off my DSC control, My car went crazy; lost control on the curve, ran into tree.

Do us all a favour and pay for this out of your own pocket, so that your foolish choices don't cause our insurance rates to go up. :mad:

Another one to add to the list of people who think they're good enough to outdrive the computer, and aren't. :rolleyes:

No, this isn't sarcasm.

I guess Brits don't make mistakes....

Pretty harsh, JM1FE. Besides, what's really responsible for high rates is fraud.

-MD

insurance pays for stupidity... it shouldn't pay for fraud.

I guess Brits don't make mistakes....

Wouldn't know, since I'm not one.... :confused:



Pretty harsh, JM1FE. Besides, what's really responsible for high rates is fraud.


Not harsh, realistic.



Turned off DSC/TCS, and wrecked (total loss):
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=33267

Turned off DSC/TCS, and wrecked (total loss):
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=30222

Turned off DSC/TCS, and wrecked (about $4000 in damage):
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=52206

Turned off DSC/TCS, and wrecked (several $K in damage):
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=51688

Did not have DSC/TCS, and wrecked (total loss):
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=53115

Turned off DSC/TCS, and wrecked (total loss):
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=46630

Turned off DSC/TCS, and wrecked (total loss):
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=44379


Now, I'm not saying that turning off the computer == instawreck, but if you read most of these stories they are less-experienced drivers who either were misled as to why they should turn off DSC or thought they could drive better/have more fun with it off.

The RX-8 without DSC turned on is tail-happy. The Porsche 911 was the very definition of tail-happy. That doesn't make either one bad cars - in fact, they are highly appealing to those who are good enough drivers to handle and appreciate them. The problem is that 99.99999999% of the people who think they're too sexy for DSC aren't nearly as good as they imagine. Every one of the above could have been avoided had people not made the choice (except for the one guy who had a base model without DSC) to turn it off and take the additional, unnecessary, totally avoidable, risk.

What makes the RX-8 different from the old 911 in this regard is the technology. DSC/TCS is there to save your ass, and your car, from turning into a greasy spot on a tree. It can't prevent all stupidity, but it can correct specific handling characteristics that contribute to loss-of-control accidents. If you turn it off, you're increasing the risk for yourself and others. You can't deny that. I'm not saying that it's not more "fun" to drive without it, but it's also "fun" do power-slides through your neighborhood and "fun" to do 140MPH on the highway. "Fun" doesn't mean it's a f'n good idea! (Or that *my* rates should pay for *your* poor judgement).

If you take your car to the track for an SCCA event, you are explicitly engaging in something that is riskier. You know this. Your insurance probably excludes coverage if you early-apex and roll it in turn <whatever> of <your-favourite-track>. If you want coverage for that, you pay for it above and beyond what street-driving coverage costs, and it doesn't affect the rates charged to everyone else.

All of those wrecks above were filed against insurance, which causes our rates to go up. What a waste. Pretty soon I expect insurance claims will be denied or payout reduced if you turn off DSC (which they can find out from the ECU), and you'll be held liable for resulting damages and injuries just as if you were 'under the influence'. I'm not advocating that, just predicting.

I drive a VW GTI VR6. This car is in about the highest insurance bracket you can get, and I've been getting raped by State Farm for nearly 6 years because it's a car that irresponsible kids wrap around trees. I have a perfect, squeeky-clean record, and still I pay. When I was in flight school, I could rent a $200,000 twin-engine airplane and fly it - solo, in some pretty serious weather - when I was 20. But when I got somewhere, I couldn't rent a car or get a courtesy car because I wasn't 25! :mad: Your actions with auto insurance DO affect everyone else. I'm not being harsh, I'm just tired of paying for everyone else's crap.

Wouldn't know, since I'm not one.... :confused:





Not harsh, realistic.



Turned off DSC/TCS, and wrecked (total loss):
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=33267

Turned off DSC/TCS, and wrecked (total loss):
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=30222

Turned off DSC/TCS, and wrecked (about $4000 in damage):
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=52206

Turned off DSC/TCS, and wrecked (several $K in damage):
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=51688

Did not have DSC/TCS, and wrecked (total loss):
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=53115

Turned off DSC/TCS, and wrecked (total loss):
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=46630

Turned off DSC/TCS, and wrecked (total loss):
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=44379


Now, I'm not saying that turning off the computer == instawreck, but if you read most of these stories they are less-experienced drivers who either were misled as to why they should turn off DSC or thought they could drive better/have more fun with it off.

The RX-8 without DSC turned on is tail-happy. The Porsche 911 was the very definition of tail-happy. That doesn't make either one bad cars - in fact, they are highly appealing to those who are good enough drivers to handle and appreciate them. The problem is that 99.99999999% of the people who think they're too sexy for DSC aren't nearly as good as they imagine. Every one of the above could have been avoided had people not made the choice (except for the one guy who had a base model without DSC) to turn it off and take the additional, unnecessary, totally avoidable, risk.

What makes the RX-8 different from the old 911 in this regard is the technology. DSC/TCS is there to save your ass, and your car, from turning into a greasy spot on a tree. It can't prevent all stupidity, but it can correct specific handling characteristics that contribute to loss-of-control accidents. If you turn it off, you're increasing the risk for yourself and others. You can't deny that. I'm not saying that it's not more "fun" to drive without it, but it's also "fun" do power-slides through your neighborhood and "fun" to do 140MPH on the highway. "Fun" doesn't mean it's a f'n good idea! (Or that *my* rates should pay for *your* poor judgement).

If you take your car to the track for an SCCA event, you are explicitly engaging in something that is riskier. You know this. Your insurance probably excludes coverage if you early-apex and roll it in turn <whatever> of <your-favourite-track>. If you want coverage for that, you pay for it above and beyond what street-driving coverage costs, and it doesn't affect the rates charged to everyone else.

All of those wrecks above were filed against insurance, which causes our rates to go up. What a waste. Pretty soon I expect insurance claims will be denied or payout reduced if you turn off DSC (which they can find out from the ECU), and you'll be held liable for resulting damages and injuries just as if you were 'under the influence'. I'm not advocating that, just predicting.

I drive a VW GTI VR6. This car is in about the highest insurance bracket you can get, and I've been getting raped by State Farm for nearly 6 years because it's a car that irresponsible kids wrap around trees. I have a perfect, squeeky-clean record, and still I pay. When I was in flight school, I could rent a $200,000 twin-engine airplane and fly it - solo, in some pretty serious weather - when I was 20. But when I got somewhere, I couldn't rent a car or get a courtesy car because I wasn't 25! :mad: Your actions with auto insurance DO affect everyone else. I'm not being harsh, I'm just tired of paying for everyone else's crap.



aww..life sure is a bitch, eh? :rolleyes: