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Lock & Load
04-12-2005, 06:17 AM
Thinking of changing front pads to EBC greenstuff priced $260.00, my rear pads are only 40% worn i would change them as well however so far the EBC crowd only has front pads for the RX8 CAN someone RECOMEND ANOTHER BRAND THAT WONT brake the bank .

Is changing the front without the rears ok??

cheers
michael

Zephyr
04-12-2005, 08:53 AM
it's better to change both front and rear at same time

Zephyr
04-12-2005, 08:54 AM
oh btw, would u consider mazdaspeed, i know the price is abit high but u get what u pay for

EZZY
04-12-2005, 09:02 AM
how about DBA?
where is DBADave when you needed him :D

edit: just chekced out dba.com.au and seems like they dont have any brake pads... my bad :D

Gomez
04-12-2005, 09:55 AM
That'd be dbasteve, EZZY!! dbadave does roll off the tongue better though ;) .

mikeyr
04-12-2005, 08:12 PM
Mez,

Who's Steve?(aka Dave) is he a member, tried a search to no avail?

Mike

mikeyr
04-12-2005, 08:18 PM
Mez,
Wish i hadn't chipped in now, found via a google. Sorry.
"Steve Gavin from DBA" i assume
L&L good thread on various pads
http://www.mrtrally.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=36

Mike

Gyro
04-12-2005, 08:56 PM
Axxis Ultimates. Ceramic enhanced performance brake pads.


I changed my rotors also. These are really nice pads. They are really popular in the M3 communty. They have a slighty higher coefficient of friction than stock, and will work at hotter temps. They only have fronts available now. They are quiet also.


Axxis Ultimates for RX8 (http://www.adrenalineracing.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/62_68_361_430/products_id/833?osCsid=ba608d166c3a13208541c8e74b9f5a5c)

Lock & Load
04-12-2005, 09:12 PM
mikeyr

Your forgiven about the yellow j/ks great find

cheers
michael

Gomez
04-12-2005, 09:18 PM
Mez,

Who's Steve?(aka Dave) is he a member, tried a search to no avail?

Mike

Yep, Steve Gavin is the guy. He is a forum member.... here's a thread on his brakes. (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=49142)

Gomez.

EZZY
04-12-2005, 09:52 PM
That'd be dbasteve, EZZY!! dbadave does roll off the tongue better though ;) .

oops... have to admit that im not so good with names.... there must be a dave somewhere i know :D

takahashi
04-12-2005, 10:07 PM
I thought DBA only have rotors?!?! :confused:

MazdaSpeed brake is good for stock rotor only. They go up to 600 degree.
They are about $250-$280 a pair shipped. It is kind of expensive.

I am into Japanese ones so Project mu and Endless will be used for the DBA rotor.
They are about 28000 Yen so just less than $300. They are much better for track than MazdaSpeed as they have temp up to 900 (for P.MU Level 900)

EBC green is a good brand but my friend GTR use it for track and burned it off ina day. It was hard to dig the GTR out of hte kitty litter. :p I am sure local brand are as good as the Japanese ones but I have no idea about them, that is all.

ILIV48
04-13-2005, 12:18 AM
EBC green is a good brand but my friend GTR use it for track and burned it off ina day. It was hard to dig the GTR out of hte kitty litter.


Yes... Luke used your friend and his gtr as an example a couple of times the other Friday :o

mikeyr
04-13-2005, 12:56 AM
I thought DBA only have rotors?!?! :confused:


I am into Japanese ones so Project mu and Endless will be used for the DBA rotor.
They are about 28000 Yen so just less than $300. They are much better for track than MazdaSpeed as they have temp up to 900 (for P.MU Level 900)

EBC green is a good brand but my friend GTR use it for track and burned it off ina day. It was hard to dig the GTR out of hte kitty litter. :p I am sure local brand are as good as the Japanese ones but I have no idea about them, that is all.
Taka,
U'r right on DBA being only rotors but Dave has some great reviews on pad/rotor combos.

Do you have the 4000 series and mu pads on yours now? Have seen the Mu pads here in NZ, wondering how much the rotor's set you back? Much improvement?

M

Must be a good mate if you dug him out of the cat tray! LOL, get a photo next time, right place for a GTR:D

takahashi
04-13-2005, 01:43 AM
I am planning on getting the 5000 series front slotted and 4000 series slotted for the rear. But my pad/rotor has not worn out yet. I still have the stock rotor with MazdaSpeed pads. When one of those gone... I will put P.MU with DBA rotors. The prices that DBA Steve quoted is similar to the one I quoted from Local Autobarn. Must be the RRP.

I wonder how much better of the 5000 series cf the 4000 series, it is essentially double the price.

Do you know how much is the replacement rotor cost from Mazda? I am calling to get a price....
I am going to give you a shock... :eek:
These are the prices for the STOCK brake pads and brake rotor replacement costs. (not inc. labour)

Front $495 each
Rear $265 each
Front Brake pads $166 pair
Rear Brake pads $110 pair

There you go
DBA 42551SL $235
DBA42550SL $242
DBA52550SL $460

That's each including GST from Specialised Brake and Clutch in Sydney
02 9673 0988

mikeyr
04-13-2005, 02:30 AM
Ouch, may start with pads and let you do the "live animal" testing on the rotors for now!

takahashi
04-13-2005, 02:51 AM
I have edited the thread above

You see the prices from Mazda are the stock rotor and pad replacements

Mazda front $495 to replace. DBA steve 2 piece slotted rotor $465. Easy choice there! :rolleyes:

Single piece slotted. $242 :eek:

I am not replacing my pads and rotor at Mazda for sure :eek:

mikeyr
04-13-2005, 03:02 AM
Great info thanks Taka...has a bookmark all it's own ...for later...!

grapes
04-13-2005, 10:19 PM
Probably no TSB's issued by Mazda Australia for the pad problems. In the U.S.- they've extended the service if you complain to 36 months 50,000 miles. They repalce them with a new softer compound organic pad set--save you lots of money http://www.finishlineperformance.com/rx8/docs/pdf/04-006-04-1369b.pdf

Hymee
04-14-2005, 06:44 AM
All I can say is my new Endless are perfect :) Well worth the money I reckon, one of the most important parts of the car in terms of saftey.

Cheers,
Hymee.

takahashi
04-14-2005, 07:32 AM
Which Endless brake pad do you have?

EDIT: Centrax has a clearance of the old Endless model earlier on... the model is NA - something. NA-S?

Did you get them cheap??

Hymee
04-14-2005, 05:15 PM
Taka,

Type SSS. The best thing I liked about these was there temp range. 0 to 500 degrees C.

Endless spend almost endless amounts of money on pad R&D.

Cheers,
Hymee.

Lock & Load
04-14-2005, 05:30 PM
For everiday use i am looking at getting HAWKS HPS OR HP OR FERODO XL or FERODO FORMULA .

HYMSTER SHOULD LOOK INTO MAKING A CONTACT WITH THESE brands of pads when he goes to the U.S

Fast track driving is not only about relyng on your brakes for great lap times .

cheers
michael

Hymee
04-14-2005, 08:52 PM
You might be surprised how good my pads feel on the road. Since they work from 0 degrees, they have good stopping power when cold. And I reckon they work better in the wet than the old ones.

I might have a brake pad offering soon...

Cheers,
Hymee.

Lock & Load
04-14-2005, 09:11 PM
Bendix are putting out a brake pad for the RX8 front and rears I WILL BE TRIALLING THEM next week i will let you guys know what i think .

The price should be very reasonable ;) ESPECIALLY IF SOME OF YOU GUYS SHOW INTEREST ;)

cheers
michael

Hymee
04-14-2005, 09:28 PM
Aren't they the ones you get from SuperCheap LOL!

Somethings I might buy at SuperCheap - infact I enjoy going there. But not for the things I rely on to stop me in a hurry, time and time again.

When you think about it, your brakes are much more "powerful" than your engine.

Cheers,
Hymee.

takahashi
04-14-2005, 09:34 PM
A pad start from 0 degree is cruitical.... you are very true Hymee

But 500 degree is still low for track use. Street or even light track is more than ok. MazdaSpeed pad goes up to 600 degree ;)

Hymee
04-14-2005, 09:51 PM
Taka,

Check out all the endless pads...

http://www.centraxauto.com.au/default2.htm

After the "SSS" they get into pretty much "track only" types of pads for over 530, and look at the price! I thought mine were expensive enough!

The NA-R are 0 - 600 rotor temp, so is that like the MazdaSpeed ones?

Cheers,
Hymee.

takahashi
04-14-2005, 10:25 PM
SSS is good value for money....

NA-R is too expensive.

Look at this Project Mu pads... Level 900 and it is 0 degree to 900 degree!!! :eek:
If I remember correctly they are 26000Yen a pair. So just below $300! That is what the best I have seen.
http://www.project-mu.co.jp/e/product/max900.html

Look at their range in the chart below too!

http://www.project-mu.co.jp/e/images/parts/pads/brake_chart.jpg

takahashi
04-14-2005, 10:27 PM
For the record
They actually recommend HC+ for RX-8

http://www.project-mu.co.jp/e/product/hc-plus.html

Hymee
04-14-2005, 10:35 PM
Thanks Taka.

Those 900's have a high cooefficient of friction as well.

Cheers,
Hymee.

takahashi
04-14-2005, 11:29 PM
You are welcome Hymee.

According to the ads that P.Mu put out for this new product (it has only been out for 2 months btw), they said it has the same dust creation ability :) and rotor chewing ability :) as the traditional HC (which is now replaced by HC+).

The only down side that it is noiser though. I think people who does not like squeaky brake should beware.

I am very interested in this pads. Mu secret in Sydney import a tonne of them. I will visit them when I am up in June (btw I am totally free --- AlfredOz ---- for that weekend ;))

MazdaSpeed pad and stock rotor do me fine at the moment, great stuff on the track without fade, good stopping ability, but very dusty little thing. I don't know how much is it left at present. When it goes, I will order the DBA rotor with P.MU pads and also paint the caliper to red. ;)

ILIV48
04-15-2005, 12:16 AM
huh...!

what did you all say :confused:

My head hurts! :o