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RX3+5
11-16-2004, 12:33 PM
2004 Mazda RX-8

Oil OEM Redline Redline Redline Redline
5w20 5w20 5w20 5w20 5w20 5w20
Oil added 0 0 0 0 0 0
Miles on Oil 1250 1764 1500 1500 3000 4000
Miles on Unit 1250 3014 4520 6067 9166 13221
Date 12-13-03 12-30-03 02-09-04 03-24-04 06-04-04 08-30-04

Aluminum 9 5 5 10 6 6
Chromium 4 5 6 5 6 7
Iron 30 30 33 29 29 35
Copper 18 22 15 10 7 6
Lead 1 2 0 3 3 5
Tin 0 1 4 0 1 1
Moly 480 471 578 599 586 556
Nickel 1 1 1 1 1 1
Manganese 0 1 1 1 0 0
Silver 0 0 0 0 0 0
Titanium 0 0 0 0 0 0
Potassium 0 2 5 4 3 2
Boron 137 71 37 24 17 8
Silicon 42 28 21 17 15 15
Sodium 8 15 18 20 20 22
Calcium 1724 2421 2565 2841 2906 3394
Magnesium 5 6 7 6 6 6
Phosphorous 850 1015 1084 1077 1091 1222
Zinc 884 1236 1165 1236 1362 1371
Barium 1 1 0 0 0 0

SUS Vis@210C 50.3 50.9 53.4 54.1 54.4 58.5
Flashpoint F 335 325 340 370 395 400
Fuel 1.5% 1.5% 1.3% .5 .5 .5
Antifreeze 0 0 0 0 0 0
Water 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
Insolubles 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.4 0.3 0.2

Vince

abbid
11-16-2004, 01:02 PM
is that calcium, zinc and phosphorous buildup normal?

RX3+5
11-16-2004, 01:17 PM
Yes, it shows the continuing dilution of the original OEM oil.

Vince

abbid
11-16-2004, 01:28 PM
are any of those elements out of whack?

G8rboy
11-16-2004, 01:32 PM
Yes, it shows the continuing dilution of the original OEM oil.

Vince
Does that go the same for the lead buildup?

I'm sending my first one off to Blackstone in the next couple weeks. Hell, I'm going to be in Fort Wayne for Thanksgiving... I wonder if they have a walk up window :).

RX3+5
11-16-2004, 01:32 PM
No, everything looks real good!
I think some of the wear metals go up and down a bit because of where the sample was taken (like at the first part of the pour VS. the middle or end).
The fuel dilution went way down as soon as I installed Canzoomers Stage One.

Vince

crossbow
11-16-2004, 08:52 PM
Here's a link of what the various readings mean.
http://www.blackstone-labs.com/gasoline_diesel_report_expl.html

Don't know why lead would be treading up though...

beachdog
11-16-2004, 11:14 PM
Interesting. Fuel = 1.5% My oil constantly smells from fuel. Dealer keeps trying to tell me that they use part synth for the oil changes and that's what the oil smells like.

If there's approximately 7 qts of oil in the system, then 1.5% is about 3.36 oz. That would easily account for the smell of fuel in the oil. It would also account for the poor mileage considering that the fuel probably boils off once the engine is at operating temperature.

Who does your oil testing and how much does it cost?

G8rboy
11-16-2004, 11:18 PM
Interesting. Fuel = 1.5% My oil constantly smells from fuel. Dealer keeps trying to tell me that they use part synth for the oil changes and that's what the oil smells like.

If there's approximately 7 qts of oil in the system, then 1.5% is about 3.36 oz. That would easily account for the smell of fuel in the oil. It would also account for the poor mileage considering that the fuel probably boils off once the engine is at operating temperature.

Who does your oil testing and how much does it cost?

Considering that out of 7 quarts only 4 gets changed, it makes sense that fuel in the oil would linger beyond changes.

Not sure who RX3+5 is using, but http://www.blackstone-labs.com/ is a popular choice... they'll send you the sample kit for free, and they charge $20 to process it.

RX3+5
11-17-2004, 12:11 PM
I use http://www.blackstone-labs.com .

Using Canzoomers Stage1/2 halved my fuel dilution and decreased my fuel consumption by a little.

Vince