I ditched my OE header and Exotic Speed midpipe for Racing Beat Header and Mid Pipe...best decision ever.

First off, this install was a total PIA...but was more then worth the aggravation...on to pics and video.

Work Area...lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/l337fpc/rx8/IMAG0428.jpg

RB Packaging is awesome
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/l337fpc/rx8/IMAG0429.jpg

Header
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/l337fpc/rx8/IMAG0430.jpg

RB Quality
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/l337fpc/rx8/IMAG0432.jpg

Exotic Speed Mid pipe, OE Header, RB Header, RB Dual Resonated Mid pipe
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/l337fpc/rx8/IMAGE_431.jpg

On to the video:
Revving and Drive Bys (http://vimeo.com/13059111)

RB header is pretty. Sounds great w/single output exhaust. Is it louder or no running one exhaust output?

glad you got it on, i assume nothing went wrong (unusual for you haha)

Nice.

Thats the setup Im shooting for, well either RB DR or BHR midpipe. Sounds awesome

Looks good, can not wait to hear it on the dyno

Crazy loud! nice TRUE drive by's! by vid, its hard to tell. but is it really raspy all through the rpms's or does it just pure scream

RB header is pretty. Sounds great w/single output exhaust. Is it louder or no running one exhaust output?

Ty! Single is always louder than dual.

glad you got it on, i assume nothing went wrong (unusual for you haha)

No sir, one bolt is busted on the header...but there is no leak...go figure lol

Nice.

Thats the setup Im shooting for, well either RB DR or BHR midpipe. Sounds awesome

It is freaking awesome, you can really hear the engine @ high rpms.

Looks good, can not wait to hear it on the dyno

I will be throwing MASSIVE flames, no doubt.

Crazy loud! nice TRUE drive by's! by vid, its hard to tell. but is it really raspy all through the rpms's or does it just pure scream

If you think that was loud...you didn't hear my old setup with the Exotic Speed mid pipe. My 8 sounded like a street bike.

The one part in the vid, you can really hear you before you come around the corner, and then wham there you are! hauling ass around the corner.

It sounds really tame when not WOT. I think it was around 3:15 of the vid it sounded as though you were just cruising, or were you off the gas totally?

It sounds really tame when not WOT. I think it was around 3:15 of the vid it sounded as though you were just cruising, or were you off the gas totally?

I was cruising. This setup is really solid. under 4k and regular driving, you hear the intake over the exhaust. after 5k you hear intake + exhaust. then around 6.5k its all engine through the exhaust.

nice video francesco

Is there a noticeable power gain with the full exhaust over stock, or has it been to long since you were stock to judge?

nice video francesco

Thx Carlos!

Is there a noticeable power gain with the full exhaust over stock, or has it been to long since you were stock to judge?

Mid-range torque is much stronger now. There is a definite gain vs stock. Plus I now have practically every bolt-on NA part...so I'm sure that helps as well :lol:.

Nice video bro, congrates on an awesome setup francesco....

What Kind of camera do you have?

Also why did you choose single over duel??

Nice video bro, congrates on an awesome setup francesco....

Thx Omar!

What Kind of camera do you have?

Also why did you choose single over duel??

Samsung HMX-H106. I chose single for the weigh savings. My whole exhaust setup is just under 60lbs. Racing Beat header + Midpipe is 40lbs and the HKS is under 20lbs.

I wish you could get a sound like that with a dual exhaust.
Love the sound, just dont like the looks :/

Sounds good!

LOL I could hear you haulin' ass long before you were in view of the camera lens so I'm guessing this setup is really loud! Also, how long was the actual drive time of the trip you posted in time lapse? And the 2 times you stopped and looked under the hood what were you looking for? Certainly you werent adding oil both times?

I wish you could get a sound like that with a dual exhaust.
Love the sound, just dont like the looks :/

Yea single exist does look off...but the sound is just right.

Sounds good!

Thanks man!

LOL I could hear you haulin' ass long before you were in view of the camera lens so I'm guessing this setup is really loud! Also, how long was the actual drive time of the trip you posted in time lapse? And the 2 times you stopped and looked under the hood what were you looking for? Certainly you werent adding oil both times?

Well, remember most of that video was at WOT. My old setup was really really loud, but this is much better. It only gets loud as you wind past 6k. I am really really pleased with this setup.

For the time lapse...it was a 4 hour drive one way. I topped my oil x2 and x1 was to show off my GTSPEC bracing.

Way to capture the overall sound. Nice vid.

thats probably the best set up there is out there, so you don't have the air pump anymore??? any benefits from that?? just being curious.

I love that sound ! Saw the vid the other day. Faaakkin' awesome !

Way to capture the overall sound. Nice vid.

I tried to get as many vantage points as possible. Cruising, moderate acceleration, and WOT.

thats probably the best set up there is out there, so you don't have the air pump anymore??? any benefits from that?? just being curious.

And you helped! I'm sure it would sound pretty damn good with my old SP2. Yeap I took the airpump out because it was whining and I don't need it since I'm catless.

I love that sound ! Saw the vid the other day. Faaakkin' awesome !

Thank you, Thank you.

I will say this much, with premixing...and this setup...I'm shooting a lot of flames. Like...A LOT of flames.

You dont have a tune do you, either Racing Beat or Access Port?

You dont have a tune do you, either Racing Beat or Access Port?

I'm tuned by MazdaManiac. My motor has low compression and will be street ported and rebuilt starting at the end of this month. I can't wait to hear what it will be like ported.

im planning to get the RB header sometime. you should make a in-car video! sounds soooo nice.

im planning to get the RB header sometime. you should make a in-car video! sounds soooo nice.

Make sure you have a full can of PB Blaster. Racing Beat ships AWESOME instructions with the header. It lists the exact tools you need and the torque specs.

I will gladly make an in car video...when my car is back on the road (http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=3626811&postcount=382).

I can tell you that inside the car under regular driving...its like just having a cat in regards to volume. When you get on it...you hear it a little bit more. This is the best setup ive had.

Here are my previous setups:
Header + Mid + catback

OE + OE Cat + Greddy SP2
OE + RP Super Cat + Greddy SP2
OE + ExoticSpeed + Greddy SP2
OE + ExoticSpeed + HKS Hi-Power
OE + Racing Beat Dual Resonated Mid Pipe + HKS High Power
Racing Beat Header + Racing Beat Dual Resonated Mid Pipe + HKS High Power


It certainly has been a long road and this setup is flipping sweet.

nice sounding setup i currently have the sp2 and ap midpipe im looking to get headers ... would you say there is a significant difference in sound?

Sounds nice man, Im hoping to eventually get this header and BHR's midpipe... but I have to buy the Cobb AP first which ruins all my plans lol. Its going to be a hassle for Jeff (MM) to tune my car as im going to be buying BHR's ignition system next then Midpipe... sigh...

nice sounding setup i currently have the sp2 and ap midpipe im looking to get headers ... would you say there is a significant difference in sound?

I'd say yes there will be a difference in sound. Kinda hard to describe...but you'll hear the engine more through the exhaust. Its really really sweet.

sounds great man

Sounds nice man

sounds great man

Ty and ty.

When I get my car back I'll make another video of in car and night. I want to get these nasty flames on camera.

sounds pretty sweet man. your previous setup sounded pretty nice also. id like to hear this setup in preson. hopefully i can make it out to a meet again some time soon.

Thinking of getting the RB Header & I have a couple of questions - will it void the 8 yr. Mazda Engine Warranty and can this be installed on automatics?

Thanks to all the folks here for the invaluable information you have provided me over the years.

Its saved me lots of dollars and its truly appreciated!!

I wanna get the RB midpipe. But is the smell really bad?
Dont wanna have to wear a damn gas mask when driving haha

Lol the smell well... u get used to it. I wouldn't leave car running if ur standing and talking behind it. Lol. When ur driving u might get whiffs at lights. Its not that bad.

Lol the smell well... u get used to it. I wouldn't leave car running if ur standing and talking behind it. Lol. When ur driving u might get whiffs at lights. Its not that bad.

Sounds like my first RX7. The exhaust was garbage on it. Holes everywhere. So while driving, the exhaust would come up the shifter. If you weren't used to it, you're eyes would be watering in a mile. After some time, you got used to it and hated the smell of clean air!!! :shocking:

Nice, you've tested several set-ups...

That's the way to go... I think you may have found the winner!

GL w/the motor build.

New video is up after my motor was rebuilt and street ported. still working on getting it tuned more aggressively.

http://vimeo.com/16367186

it looks slower, :) lol, it does sound good though. Did you notice or have dyno sheets of where it sits now of power gains/losses?

it looks slower, :) lol, it does sound good though. Did you notice or have dyno sheets of where it sits now of power gains/losses?

with the RB ported tune, vacuum leaks, and a header leak...186whp/135wtq. MM said with my bhr kit, he could squeeze a good amount out of whp, past 200's. I did my logs and hopefully will have a better tune shortly.

what im really anxious to see is how the street port will handle boost...when i get said $$.

New video is up after my motor was rebuilt and street ported. still working on getting it tuned more aggressively.

http://vimeo.com/16367186

Just watched your video again.... Definitely the best sounding 8 ive heard.

Just watched your video again.... Definitely the best sounding 8 ive heard.

wow, thanks man!

with the RB ported tune, vacuum leaks, and a header leak...186whp/135wtq....

What does your airflow log look like? What are your LTFT? With a vacuum leak, that is un-metered air, and they should be creeping higher. Thanks for sharing.

What does your airflow log look like? What are your LTFT? With a vacuum leak, that is un-metered air, and they should be creeping higher. Thanks for sharing.

At that time I was using RB's tune...so I couldn't get any info through my AP.

OK, thanks. I keep thinking I have a vacuum leak also. I hear the strangest sounds at WOT, but my LTFT is steady at 3 right now. Jeff said it will trend higher if you have a leak.

Yea I have a rattle from my header, i think the gasket is gone or the header is rubbing against something. Unfortunately my exhaust takes a beating from driving to school and philly roads blow.

Didnt u say before u stripped a bolt ?

Didnt u say before u stripped a bolt ?

That was before my rebuild, when it was rebuilt, it was replaced.

Would you buy the header again?

definately, if i started all over again, this header would be one of my first upgrades. Along with the BHR ignition, AEM CAI, MM maps, and a oil catch can.

definately, if i started all over again, this header would be one of my first upgrades. Along with the BHR ignition, AEM CAI, MM maps, and a oil catch can.

I have been thinking about parts in general as a complete system. I have the HKS Hi-power, BHR mid pipe now, BHR ignition, Cobb, etc. and after reading up on the header and intake I may go that route. Not much bang for the buck but what the heck.

just give yourself some extra time...because its a royal pain to install. I'd take my SSV out again instead of changing my header.

But it really is worth it, imo.

so whens the supercharger going in? ;)

Yeah I bet it is a bitch. But header installs usually are. Try it on a 4.6 Modular Mustang and you will think the RX-8 is easy :lol:

so whens the supercharger going in? ;)

Better question, how much can you donate for said FI fund?

Yeah I bet it is a bitch. But header installs usually are. Try it on a 4.6 Modular Mustang and you will think the RX-8 is easy :lol:

Yea I only did an X-pipe and axle back install on a 08 GT mustang a few months ago. Yea the headers do not look fun at all.

Do you have any tips for the install? I assume the header bolts should not be too bad since the header was off when they put this motor in last year.

Do you have any tips for the install? I assume the header bolts should not be too bad since the header was off when they put this motor in last year.

Well, you have to raise the engine up in steps to clear certain sections of the engine mount. I'd get a new can of PB Blaster and some food b/c you'll be there for awhile. The biggest bitch was getting the engine mount to sit right.

If you don't have any socket joints and extensions, you'll need them.

Well, you have to raise the engine up in steps to clear certain sections of the engine mount. I'd get a new can of PB Blaster and some food b/c you'll be there for awhile. The biggest bitch was getting the engine mount to sit right.

If you don't have any socket joints and extensions, you'll need them.

Using a block of wood and a jack on the pan? Would removing the mount all together make it easier? Would doing it on a lift make it easier?

We removed both my engine mounts to install mine. Had a lift on the engine brackets also to hang the engine in air, then pushed the block over. Lots of room that way.

Using a block of wood and a jack on the pan? Would removing the mount all together make it easier? Would doing it on a lift make it easier?

Thats what i did. I removed the mount as well. A lift makes it always easier.

We removed both my engine mounts to install mine. Had a lift on the engine brackets also to hang the engine in air, then pushed the block over. Lots of room that way.

That sounds like a much better approach.

Damn it sounds so good. How bad is the drone sound on the highway? Also do you notice any more power from the header midpipe?

Damn it sounds so good. How bad is the drone sound on the highway? Also do you notice any more power from the header midpipe?

Ty, ty. As far as drone, it was significantly reduced thanks to the dual resonated midpipe...when compared to my old exoticspeed midpipe.

I feel that the RB header and RB dual resonated midpipe combo smooths everything out. The header increases midrange torque.