Hopefully this link works - this is a link to a translated version of Greddy Japan's webpage -

http://ocn.amikai.com/amiweb/browser.jsp?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trust-power.com%2F06new%2Findex.html&langpair=2%2C1&c_id=ocn&lang=JA&toolbar=yes&display=2

I also attached a pic.

Seems to be a long-ram intake, drawing cold air from the passenger side fenderwell. Neat design!

Price is about $250 US dollars - hopefully they'll be available in the states soon.

Dale

Hmm, the link takes you to the main New Products page.

Click on the link on the page that says this -
"January 7 GRACER air INKUSU set MZ-M011B SE3P "

SE3P is the RX-8's chassis code (like FC3S and FD3S for the RX-7)

Dale

That may work on the j-spec car but I wonder what fitment would be like with our passenger-side oil cooler. Not to mention the fog lights.
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Wow, thats a long run for and intake. I wonder how it performs?

It says in the description that it fits with the stock fog lights. Hard to say on the second oil cooler - I'm assuming they have models in Japan that have the second oil cooler as well.

Dale

Originally posted by JimW
Wow, thats a long run for and intake. I wonder how it performs? the length doesn't really matter much.

There isn't an Injen or AEM out yet?

Originally posted by SSR Engineering
There isn't an Injen or AEM out yet? not that i know of.

Price is closer to $280 USD.

I especially like this part:

the sequential dynamic air in TEKU system (S-DAIS) using inhalation-of-air pulsation of engine being adopted, and 13 B-MSP only removing and showing a pure air cleaner box, and only attaching a model cleaner -- reverse -- a power down -- carrying out -- junior and senior high schools -- depression of an output occurs in a rotation region


Junior and senior high schools?

In Japan they only get the one oil cooler, for whatever reason.. I'd much rather have an oil cooler in that spot than a "cold water" intake :)

Originally posted by Psylence
In Japan they only get the one oil cooler, for whatever reason.. I'd much rather have an oil cooler in that spot than a "cold water" intake :)

You sure about that? I haven't gone and stuck my face in my neighbor's car, but I'm betting it has two. The MS RX-8 has two, and it's not an addition... it said that one of them (right I think) was replaced with a higher capacity oil cooler.

Originally posted by Maniac
Price is closer to $280 USD.

I especially like this part:



Junior and senior high schools?

that's what machine translations get you... nothing beats the real thing (baby!).:p

It seems overly long to me. You've got this huge grill opening but it actually goes past it to get to its final location. What is wrong with the grill opening? I would think that would be the best source of fresh air available. There was a Rotary Extreme prototype that used this spot, if I recall correctly, but I don't know whatever came of it.

jds

Well, now I've seen everything. I'm not sure that will work on the USDM version. The oil cooler point is a good one, though personally I think that the bumper support or crash beam will get in the way. I've had the front bumper off and there's alot of stuff going on behind the skin. My guess it that it will fit with the crash beam removed. Or you could put an elbow in it, run it out the front opening and use it as a snorkel for fording those deep water holes in the Land Rover Chalange. LOL:D

I dont think this intake will go into production!! I forsee too many problems already, and like VIVIDRacing says, there is alot going on behind the skin of the front bumper

I don't like the fact that the openning is so low in the car. Getting water in my engine when I run through a puddle or 8" of water is not a good thing.

-Mr. Wigggles

ANY one know if that is compatible of the valve in the front. You know we have a S-DAIS system that open valve after 5500 rpm. When you open the valve below that you will decrease the torque at low ranges. That is why they close it. The air intake from the after market will eliminate this function or it is actually in front of the air box so it does not matter? Anyone can answer this question?

first off i agree.it will not make production... plus that would be an ugly sight to see..a big tube running horizontally across the corner of the grill...plus there are way to many bends in the design....power could be lost at one of those bend points...

Originally posted by XDEEDUBBX
first off i agree.it will not make production... plus that would be an ugly sight to see..a big tube running horizontally across the corner of the grill...plus there are way to many bends in the design....power could be lost at one of those bend points... not if its mandrel bent. Why are you guys so hung up on this design between length and bends. once the filter is opened up it will definitely increase some HP and the water issue is easily taken care of with a bypass valve.

I have a cold air intake system for my 240SX and it makes the piping longer and put the air filter in the open air like this design. It has increased HP at least on the butt dyno and others that have the same have had it dyno tested with good results.

I'm not using THAT in Miami.....

now if I could turn it upwards and as Vivid said use it as a snorkel

hmmm.

I'm wondering if it will even fit the North American cars. Unlike Japan, we have a big bumper right there behind the grille. Does this go through where our bumpers are or does it run behind?

Nope, not impressed so far. But it is nice to see more and more products coming out!

Originally posted by Scrapin 240
not if its mandrel bent. Why are you guys so hung up on this design between length and bends. once the filter is opened up it will definitely increase some HP and the water issue is easily taken care of with a bypass valve.

I have a cold air intake system for my 240SX and it makes the piping longer and put the air filter in the open air like this design. It has increased HP at least on the butt dyno and others that have the same have had it dyno tested with good results.

have you ever tested a car with a bypass valve on..vs the pipe with it??? i used to have one...the bypass valve actually loses a little power opposed to just running without it...yea you will gain power with it regardless but not as much as you would if you ran with out it....

mandrel bending or not.."same sh!t...it still has to travel so far just to get throught the throttle...i mean look at it...its common sence...it just won't work...plus...plus even if it did work..which company do you know of actually makes pipes that long...and don't say aem..cause their cold air intakes are not that long....

for example..take two straws and put them together in a cup of water..vs...a short straw...which one is easier to get the water??

well my injen intake is pretty long and probably has an additional at least 2-3 feet of extra piping to place the filter out of the engine bay. Believe what you must and I guess your shorter "straw" might work better for you, but my longer "straw" works very well and I would rather get some colder air.

do i even have to answer back?... you don't even have a 8...so go ahead and get yourself your 5-6 feet of intake for your z...since you so preciously want to defend it... heres a cookie...

Originally posted by XDEEDUBBX
do i even have to answer back?... you don't even have a 8...so go ahead and get yourself your 5-6 feet of intake for your z...since you so preciously want to defend it... heres a cookie...

Before the admins step in, play nicely boys. Owning an 8 or not doesn't mean one can't play nicely.

And if you could read the Japanese on Greddy's site you'd know why it was so long. Take a look at RE's dyno and one for K&N... what do you see? How about a few of the other short arm intakes? Sometimes you see no gain or even a loss at low to mid-rpm with some decent gain at the top-end. Greddy developed this the longer arm for not only cooler air, but resonance tuning... check out the other thread (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19553&perpage=15&pagenumber=1) with some explanations about this by Rotarygod...

Greddy claims that their intake creates improvements in the low-mid rpm range and little on the top-end. As I was explaining... this is the total opposite of what we see with the short-arm intakes.

Originally posted by Japan8
Before the admins step in, play nicely boys. Owning an 8 or not doesn't mean one can't play nicely.

And if you could read the Japanese on Greddy's site you'd know why it was so long. Take a look at RE's dyno and one for K&N... what do you see? How about a few of the other short arm intakes? Sometimes you see no gain or even a loss at low to mid-rpm with some decent gain at the top-end. Greddy developed this the longer arm for not only cooler air, but resonance tuning... check out the other thread (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19553&perpage=15&pagenumber=1) with some explanations about this by Rotarygod...

Greddy claims that their intake creates improvements in the low-mid rpm range and little on the top-end. As I was explaining... this is the total opposite of what we see with the short-arm intakes. well i always thought that one would be welcomed here, with a 8 or not. And because sometimes a outside opinion is nice but guess not. I was considering getting a rx-8 in addition to my other cars, but it seems at least there are some nice flamers on here. Oh Well.

But thanks for that explanation and with any performance mods there are always some drawbacks, and from what i've read that the 8 is not so much on the low end but more to mid and upper end of the scale, therefore if what you say is correct then it would only enhance the power delivery at the end and make 9000 rpm feel only better.

Originally posted by Scrapin 240
well i always thought that one would be welcomed here, with a 8 or not. And because sometimes a outside opinion is nice but guess not. I was considering getting a rx-8 in addition to my other cars, but it seems at least there are some nice flamers on here. Oh Well.

But thanks for that explanation and with any performance mods there are always some drawbacks, and from what i've read that the 8 is not so much on the low end but more to mid and upper end of the scale, therefore if what you say is correct then it would only enhance the power delivery at the end and make 9000 rpm feel only better.

As long as you're not trolling, flaming, etc. you are welcome to the forum. I'm still relatively new, but I have already met many great people and gotten a lot of good info which has only confirmed my next car purchase to be an 8.

Originally posted by XDEEDUBBX
for example..take two straws and put them together in a cup of water..vs...a short straw...which one is easier to get the water??

I'll bet you flunked physics. The reason water is harder to suck up a long straw is the same reason it takes a lot of power to pump water up a tall hill. Its that gravity thing and the fact that water is relatively dense. Water is especially dense when compared to air. Because the density of air is so low, and the pipe is relatively short, the length of the pipe is not going to matter much.

The problem with the pipe would be its diameter (if it is too small to support the intake needs of the motor) or if it had lots of tight bends in it. Even air loses energy (momentum) going around bends. :D :D :D

is this guy joking?

i dont know, im taking physics next year, ill tell u then