View Full Version : Can I get Mazda to aprove this ?


Maestro
01-22-2004, 09:04 PM
Hmmmmmmm

Lock & Load
01-22-2004, 09:11 PM
Maestro

Nice piece of plumbing visually appealing but does it have any real benefits????????????

Michael

Hymee
01-22-2004, 09:14 PM
Hehehe.

It is an intercooler, and those are only normally used with forced induction. What I cant tell from the picture is what form the compressor takes (i.e. supercharged, or turbo charged).

I looks faster Michael - you know just how Yellow ones look faster than Red ones, yet Red ones are actually quicker ;)

Cheers,
Hymee.

Maestro
01-22-2004, 09:55 PM
Knightsport Supercharger Kit.

Makes 280ps @ 4-5 psi :D

Lock & Load
01-22-2004, 10:03 PM
Are we talking 206kw woah .

HOW MUCH , WHEN WERE ???????????

Maestro
01-22-2004, 10:39 PM
Thats the test car.

I'm actually gonna get one over here and see if I can get Mazda it support it as a dealer accessory.

The Nissan has how many kw you say ????

Hmmmm oh and a maxima chassis :P



Originally posted by Lock & Load
Are we talking 206kw woah .

HOW MUCH , WHEN WERE ???????????

Kev
01-23-2004, 07:56 AM
Anybody would think you guys have got something against the under bonnet tupperware look!

So that's 4~5 psi ... then we're talking standard rotors and other internals?

I'd expect it could be tweaked a bit further with some internal work.

Do you know what they've done with engine management and exhaust?

Maestro
01-23-2004, 03:05 PM
Nope this is where the journey begins.

Some guys I know from a kiwi rotary forum got to go for a drive in the test car.

There are also some crazy turbo ones from RE Amemiya.

Give me some time I will get tpo the bottom of it.

But my thoughts would be 280hp @ 4-5psi 'should' be able to keep the stock ecu.

'should' be able to

takahashi
01-23-2004, 03:33 PM
The Blitz compressor does about the same increase and they said you can keep the stock ECU too. Why not pay a 1000 bucks more for a tunable one from Ric? I just wonder tune it better with Ric I will get much smoother h-t curve.

NT Rotor Head
01-23-2004, 03:38 PM
Guys, would the stock ECU even have fuel and ignition mapping to support forced induction of any sort, even low PSI? I'm not sure that it would. A tuneable aftermarket ECU may be required to cater for positive pressure! :) Any thoughts?

garbagedook
01-23-2004, 06:10 PM
is that 280 hp at the wheels or at the crank?

Thanks.

Kas
01-24-2004, 02:00 AM
you'd hope its wheels.

Hymee
01-24-2004, 07:38 AM
A PS is not exactly the same as a HP, but pretty close:

hp
According to the most common definition of horsepower, one horsepower is defined as exactly:

1 hp = 745.69987158227022 W
The horsepower was first used by James Watt during a business venture where his steam engines substituted horses. It was defined that a horse can lift 33,000 pounds with a speed of 1 foot per minute: 33,000 ft·lb·min-1. (This is equivalent to approximately 15,000 kg at 30 cm.)

PS
This unit (German: Pferdestärke = horse strength) is still commonly used in Germany and central Europe, although not an lawful unit any more. It is defined by the Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt (PTB) in Braunschweig as:

1 PS = 735.49875 W

PTB http://www.ptb.de/

Source can be read at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower

Nice mod. I would like to play with positive displacement forced induction on a Rotary :)

Cheers,
Hymee.

Wildcard
01-24-2004, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by NT Rotor Head
Guys, would the stock ECU even have fuel and ignition mapping to support forced induction of any sort, even low PSI? I'm not sure that it would. A tuneable aftermarket ECU may be required to cater for positive pressure! :) Any thoughts?

My thoughts too. I've read elsewhere that the stock ECU does not have any maps for FI.

Dez
01-26-2004, 07:24 PM
how odd that am American hours was able to pull more than German hourse?

--dez;

rotarygod
02-03-2004, 01:31 AM
If they were both WWII horses then the answer should be obvious!

MazdaManiac
03-19-2004, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by NT Rotor Head
Guys, would the stock ECU even have fuel and ignition mapping to support forced induction of any sort, even low PSI? I'm not sure that it would. A tuneable aftermarket ECU may be required to cater for positive pressure! :) Any thoughts?

I did the math in another thread (forgot where and I forgot the actual numbers), but I calculated that the OEM injectors will support about 310 crank HP.
I don't think the PCM will know what to do with that much air, but a piggy-back like the E-Manage can turn on the fuel delivery for the 3 or 4 PSI that would yield that kind of HP.

nismo350Z
03-19-2004, 05:58 AM
you meant horse, Dez? probably due to different breeds.... just j/king...

BTW, what's the differences between BHP and HP?

cheers,

richie

wallerc
03-19-2004, 03:16 PM
BHP = brake horsepower. As there are four of them BHP is more than HP.

MazdaManiac
03-19-2004, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by wallerc
BHP = brake horsepower. As there are four of them BHP is more than HP.

:p

takahashi
03-19-2004, 04:44 PM
According the lastest Option Japan Magazine that Kight Sport Supercharger is 285 ps at crank. Nodel Ni PE3000 Supercharger.

Trust makes turbo Re-Amemiya has 260ps with TD06-18G turbo with retune ECU (REDOM v. 2)

Should be more later on!

Maestro
08-11-2004, 12:02 AM
I have one here in NZ for sale........ Finally :P

rotarenvy
08-16-2004, 04:34 AM
how much?