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alnielsen 11-30-2009, 02:05 PM The FIA issues F1 entry list
The FIA has issued the 2010 Formula 1 entry list:
The entries are as follows:
1, Jenson Button --- Vodafone McLaren Mercedes -- McLaren-Mercedes
2, Lewis Hamilton -- Vodafone McLaren Mercedes -- McLaren-Mercedes
3, Nico Rosberg ----------- Brawn GP Formula One Team
4, Michael Schumacher --- Brawn GP Formula One Team
5, Sebastian Vettel -- Red Bull Racing -- Red Bull Racing Renault
6, Mark Webber ------ Red Bull Racing -- Red Bull Racing Renault
7, Felipe Massa ------- Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro -- Ferrari
8, Fernando Alonso -- Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro -- Ferrari
9, Rubens Barrichello -- AT&T Williams -- Williams-Cosworth
10, Nico Hulkenberg ---- AT&T Williams -- Williams-Cosworth
11, Robert Kubica -- Renault F1 Team -- Renault
12, TBA -------------- Renault F1 Team -- Renault
14, Adrian Sutil -- Force India F1 Team -- Force India Mercedes
15, Tonio Liuzzi -- Force India F1 Team -- Force India Mercedes
16, Sebastien Buemi -- Scuderia Toro Rosso -- STR-Ferrari
17, Jaime Alguersuari - Scuderia Toro Rosso -- STR-Ferrari
18, Jarno Trulli ---------- Lotus F1 Racing -- Lotus Cosworth
19, Heikki Kovalainen -- Lotus F1 Racing -- Lotus Cosworth
20, TBA ------------ Campos Meta 1 -- Campos Dallara
21, Bruno Senna -- Campos Meta 1 -- Campos Dallara
22, Jose Maria Lopez -- USF1 Team -- USF1 Cosworth
23, TBA ----------------- USF1 Team -- USF1 Cosworth
24, Timo Glock ------ Virgin Racing -- Virgin Cosworth
25, Lucas di Grassi -- Virgin Racing -- Virgin Cosworth
The entry list reveals that Red Bull racing will use Renault engines. It also reveals as expected that the Manor team will use the Virgin name. The Brawn entry will be changed to Mercedes Grand Prix if there is no problem with the F1 Commission.
Toyota Motorsport GmbH remains formally bound by the Concorde Agreement to put forward a team for participation, though it has indicated that it will not be in a position to do so. An announcement will be made regarding this entry in due course.
There is no mention of Sauber at the moment.
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21994.html
The post has been edited to reflect the current team drivers.
alnielsen 11-30-2009, 02:20 PM 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship Race Calendar
01 2010 FORMULA 1 BAHRAIN GRAND PRIX (Sakhir) 12 - 14 Mar
02 2010 FORMULA 1 AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX (Melbourne) 26 - 28 Mar
03 2010 FORMULA 1 MALAYSIAN GRAND PRIX (Kuala Lumpur) 02 - 04 Apr
04 2010 FORMULA 1 CHINESE GRAND PRIX (Shanghai) 16 - 18 Apr
05 FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO DE ESPANA 2010 (Catalunya) 07 - 09 May
06 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DE MONACO 2010 (Monte Carlo) 13 - 16 May
07 2010 FORMULA 1 TURKISH GRAND PRIX (Istanbul) 28 - 30 May
08 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DU CANADA 2010 (Montreal) 11 - 13 Jun
09 2010 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX OF EUROPE (Valencia) 25 - 27 Jun
10 2010 FORMULA 1 BRITISH GRAND PRIX (Silverstone) 09 - 11 Jul
11 FORMULA 1 GROSSER PREIS VON DEUTSCHLAND 2010 (Hockenheim) 23 - 25 Jul
12 FORMULA 1 ING MAGYAR NAGYDIJ 2010 (Budapest) 30 Jul - 01 Aug
13 2010 FORMULA 1 BELGIAN GRAND PRIX (Spa-Francorchamps) 27 - 29 Aug
14 FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO D'ITALIA 2010 (Monza) 10 - 12 Sep
15 2010 FORMULA 1 SINGAPORE GRAND PRIX (Singapore) 24 - 26 Sep
16 2010 FORMULA 1 JAPANESE GRAND PRIX (Suzuka) 08 - 10 Oct
17 2010 FORMULA 1 KOREAN GRAND PRIX (Yeongam) * 22 - 24 Oct
18 FORMULA 1 GRANDE PREMIO DO BRASIL 2010 (Sao Paulo) 05 - 07 Nov
19 2010 FORMULA 1 ABU DHABI GRAND PRIX (Yas Marina Circuit) 12 - 14 Nov
* Subject to circuit approval
http://www.formula1.com/races/calendar_preview.html
alfy28 11-30-2009, 02:34 PM Woot, thanks aln. 1st post btw :)
PerSmitt 12-01-2009, 03:43 AM Piquet is still hoping for a comeback... I really think he burned all his bridges with F1 though.
Nelson Piquet Jr hopes to continue his Formula One career with the Campos team when the Spanish outfit enters the sport in 2010, but admits that he might not fit the profile team bosses are looking for.
Fellow countryman Bruno Senna has been confirmed as a Campos driver next season, and the prospect of having two famous family names such as Senna and Piquet teaming up is more than enough to stir up good memories within Brazil's passionate F1 fans.
"I would be absolutely delighted, it would be marvellous for the Brazilian public," Piquet said, as reported by France's Auto Hebdo. "All depends on the team now, but they seem to be looking for a Spanish driver."
The former Renault team member was speaking from the fifth annual International Challenge of Stars karting event, which Felipe Massa – another fellow Brazilian – organises.
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/091130163932.shtml
alnielsen 12-01-2009, 05:19 AM Volkswagen Considering Formula 1 Participation
WOLFSBURG, Germany — As Formula 1 reels from the loss of three participating auto manufacturers in the past 12 months, Volkswagen is considering its first venture into the world's premier form of motorsport.
VW representative Hans-Joachim Stuck told Autosport magazine the company would not be interested in becoming a partner with a team but would consider acting as an engine supplier for customer teams.
Between December 2008 and November 4 of this year, Honda, BMW and Toyota all quit the sport. All three fielded works teams representing their brands.
However, at least three new teams will join competition next season. As many as 26 or even 28 cars may be competing in 2010, compared with 20 in 2009.
Stuck confirmed that an expanded F1 grid creates opportunities for engine suppliers and that VW would be interested, but not before 2012, he asserted.
Stuck compared the expansion to the days when he was a racing driver.
"I followed Formula 1 for the last seven years with BMW, and I always asked myself on the grid, with only 20 cars, what if we could have 30 cars? Now we're getting back to this," he told Autosport.
Inside Line says: Stuck insists that auto manufacturers should concentrate on developing engines rather than fielding factory teams in racing. — David Green, Correspondent
http://www.insideline.com/volkswagen/volkswagen-considering-formula-1-participation.html
bse50 12-01-2009, 05:41 AM 'scribed.
AAAAAALFYYYYYYYY will you do another remake of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU&feature=fvst) if we finish ahead of your holy team? ;)
Mazmart 12-01-2009, 08:30 AM So Renault has been allowed to field a team and provide engines? I'm guessing Virgin is no longer a Brawn sponsor? Any word on a tire (Tyre) supplier as yet?
Paul.
alfy28 12-01-2009, 11:14 AM 'scribed.
AAAAAALFYYYYYYYY will you do another remake of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU&feature=fvst) if we finish ahead of your holy team? ;)
OMG, is that Massa with spray on tan? i didnt know he could sing.
i understand he wants to be like hamilton and all. since hamilton >massa, but he didnt have to pick the darkest spray on tan. we accept him as he is.
alnielsen 12-01-2009, 02:08 PM So Renault has been allowed to field a team and provide engines? I'm guessing Virgin is no longer a Brawn sponsor? Any word on a tire (Tyre) supplier as yet?
Paul.
Links:
Horner insists Renault not 2010 engine supplier yet (http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=353152:F1)
Manor set for Virgin rebranding (http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8387634.stm)
Manor team entered under Virgin title (http://www.itv-f1.com/Controller.aspx?PO_ID=47485)
I've seen nothing on tires/tyres yet.
alfy28 12-01-2009, 03:02 PM Massa: Hi alnoso,want to come ride for a charity event?
Alsono: Hell no!
Massa: but its for a noble cause
Alsonso: are points involved? Do i also get a world championship trophy?
Massa : um lol what? its for a charity event.
Alsonso: will you let me get 1st place?
Massa : lmao, dude just dont come.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/109113023305/-alonso-turned-down-massas-kart-race-invitation
Felipe Massa has revealed that he invited his 2010 Ferrari teammate Fernando Alonso to contest the weekend's charity kart race International Challenge of the Stars.
The event, won for the second time by Michael Schumacher, was also contested by F1 figures including Rubens Barrichello, Vitantonio Liuzzi, Nelson Piquet and Lucas di Grassi.
Massa, who flew by plane back to Sao Paulo after the race because his wife is imminently expecting their baby, said he wanted Spaniard Alonso to feature on the 2009 entry list.
"I invited Alonso to come here," he is quoted as saying by the Spanish news agency EFE. "Not only this year, but also in previous years.
"I hope he sees it is an interesting competition and that next year he comes," Massa, 28, added.
Some of Massa's more recent comments have indicated that Ferrari's new Latin lineup is likely to be a fiery one, but the Brazilian said he thinks he and Alonso will share a "good relationship away from the tracks".
"Alonso is a great driver, everybody knows that," he continued. "I believe we can be the best pairing in the championship."
But Massa, while insisting Alonso will be "good for the team", does not think the double world champion's arrival will change his own status within Ferrari.
"I don't think Alonso changes anything on my side or within Ferrari," he said.
alnielsen 12-01-2009, 03:18 PM Any word on a tire (Tyre) supplier as yet?
Paul.
It looks like Bridgestone is in it for the 2010 season. It's the 2011 and beyond that is up for grabs.
One by One, Companies Claim No F1 Interest (http://www.tyrepress.com/News/MOTORSPORT/49/18004.html)
moRotorMotor 12-01-2009, 03:27 PM It would be interesting to see Kumho step up to the game.
alfy28 12-01-2009, 03:31 PM i wish we can have multiple tire companies again.
alnielsen 12-01-2009, 03:33 PM i wish we can have multiple tire companies again.
Here is an article that asks for people to express their opinion on that topic.
http://www.tyrepress.com/118/18198.html
bse50 12-01-2009, 03:49 PM Multiple tires? yes but they have to have the possibility to design the cars on the new tires or we will see other discrepancies between a team or another.
This would require more tests!
alnielsen 12-01-2009, 06:15 PM Multiple tires? yes but they have to have the possibility to design the cars on the new tires or we will see other discrepancies between a team or another.
This would require more tests!
As in Ferrari & Bridgestone or McLaren & Michelin?
I don't like the idea. As I said before, tire wars lead to tires that leave behind crud off line. That prevents passing. With the refueling ban, they should make them race with tires that will finish the event.
bse50 12-01-2009, 07:05 PM You're right in that regard but this would force two manufacturers to split the costs and engineer some good tires!
The problem with not knowing the tire's specs is that you can build the best car in the world but it will eventually drive like crap and finish behind crappy car that like that particular rubber.
With testing bans etc chaning the manufacturer is a major issue!
PerSmitt 12-03-2009, 01:45 AM Massa: Hi alnoso,want to come ride for a charity event?
Alsono: Hell no!
Massa: but its for a noble cause
Alsonso: are points involved? Do i also get a world championship trophy?
Massa : um lol what? its for a charity event.
Alsonso: will you let me get 1st place?
Massa : lmao, dude just dont come.
Dude you just made my morning golden! :)
alnielsen 12-03-2009, 01:03 PM Sauber secures final 2010 grid slot
Sauber has been granted the final place on next year’s Formula 1 grid – finally securing the team’s future after months of uncertainty in the wake of BMW’s withdrawal from the sport.
After the planned sale to investment group Qadbak fell through, BMW announced last Friday that it had sold the Hinwil-based squad back to its founder Peter Sauber, but the deal was contingent on the team being guaranteed an entry in next year’s world championship.
BMW had initially forfeited its place when it declined to sign the new Concorde Agreement – committing teams to F1 until 2012 – but Toyota’s announcement last month that it would be quitting the sport with immediate effect appeared to have handed it a lifeline.
Sauber was still in limbo, however, as the FIA stated on Monday that Toyota had yet to extract itself from its contractual obligations.
There were reports that the Japanese manufacturer might try to sell on its entry in a bid to avoid any legal ramifications, possibly to Serbian organisation Stefan GP, which was one of the teams rejected by the FIA in the initial decision over 2010 entries six months ago.
But Toyota has instead relinquished its entry and the FIA confirmed on Thursday that it has handed the coveted 13th slot to Sauber.
“The FIA has written to inform BMW Sauber AG that their application for an entry in the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship has been successful,” said a statement from the governing body.
“Subject to their signing the Concorde Agreement, BMW Sauber will be awarded the 13th entry in the championship, taking the place of the departing Toyota team.
“The FIA has worked closely with the Commercial Rights Holder and the teams involved over recent weeks and is grateful for their support in achieving the best outcome for the sport.
“An updated Formula 1 entry list will be published in due course.”
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=47499&PO=47499
alnielsen 12-03-2009, 03:20 PM Pit Babes
http://www.f1grandprix.it/download/foto/pitbabes/FORMULA_UNA_GP_ITALIA_2008/00913full228.jpg
http://www.f1grandprix.it/download/foto/pitbabes/FORMULA_UNA_GP_ITALIA_2008/00911full288.jpg
http://www.f1grandprix.it/download/foto/pitbabes/FORMULA_UNA_GP_ITALIA_2008/00912full85.jpg
alnielsen 12-04-2009, 09:12 AM Raikkonen signs switch to WRC with Citroën
http://www.f1technical.net/images/news/2009/raikkonen-2.jpgEx-Formula One world champion Kimi Raikkonen will compete for Citroen in the World Rally Championship next season, the team announced Friday. After leaving Ferrari at the end of 2009, the 2007 champion will compete in rallies for Citroen's Red Bull-backed Junior Team in 2010.
"For the moment we have a one-year contract and we will see how it goes for the future," Raikkonen said in a statement. "I am really looking forward to testing the car and taking the start of the first rally."
Raikkonen already took part in one WRC race in 2009 during a break between F1 races, and had long been an enthusiast of a sport that has a strong pedigree of Finnish champions. Next year he will be able to compete in all rallies, except for the Rally of New Zealand, one that his team is not competing in.
Raikkonen will partner French driver Sebastien Ogier in the Citroen Junior Team next year.
"I always wanted to compete in rally, especially in the World Rally Championship at some point in my career," said Raikkonen. "Thanks to Red Bull, I have the opportunity to drive the best car of the series with the Citroen C4. This is a new but very exciting challenge."
Following confirmation of his departure from Ferrari, Raikkonen and his management were involved in talks about a move back to his former team McLaren. However McLaren ultimately signed 2009 world champion Jenson Button to partner Lewis Hamilton in 2010.
Raikkonen said he was not prepared to join a weaker team, and elected to take a sabbatical from F1 in 2010, holding out the possibility of a quick return the following season.
http://www.f1technical.net/news/13862?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+F1technicalnetFormulaOneNews+ %28F1technical.net+.+Formula+One+news%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher
alfy28 12-04-2009, 09:27 AM Its going to be really weird not seeing kimi on the track. hope to see him in 2011
alfy28 12-04-2009, 12:05 PM Can some one embed this for me, job blocks youtube. Any how, thought we kick the 2010 with a bang, with some awesome crashes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXubxGXy3IA&feature=youtube_gdata
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alnielsen 12-04-2009, 12:35 PM I never saw the racer hitting the safety car before. It must have happened during a practice session that wasn't televised here.
O.T. If you liked the music in that video, you will probably LOL at this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZeciX-3wfs
alnielsen 12-04-2009, 10:49 PM Renault board juggles offers for F1 team
Renault's management will make a call next week on how to offload its beleaguered F1 team into private hands.
Renault has long been thought of as the manufacturer most likely to pull the plug on its F1 program, but it has remained involved as Honda, BMW and Toyota all withdrew from the sport.
The Piquet cheating scandal has done little for the company's image, but it's thought that Renault did not want to be seen making a hasty retreat in the aftermath of the affair. However, what it did do was block what has always been the most likely exit scenario--Renault handing the team, or selling it for a nominal amount, to Flavio Briatore.
The French company is considering two proposals, one from David Richards of Prodrive and one from the Genii Capital Group, run by Luxembourg-based entrepreneur Gerard Lopez. Richards ran the team in its Benetton days for a brief period before Briatore returned to favor. He has been looking for a way to have his own entry but has been keen to do it at a sensible cost. Richards also runs Aston Martin and is expected to rebrand the team after two more years with Renault power. He has strong backing from Kuwait.
Genii has investments in a variety of fields and made business headlines in the United States earlier this year with a failed bid to buy the bankrupt Polaroid company. Lopez also runs Gravity Sports Management, a company that manages a group of promising young drivers including Adrien Tambay, Ho-Pin Tung (who tested for Renault this week) and Jerome d'Ambrosio.
It's said that the team in Enstone favors the Richards bid, while Paris prefers the Genii offer.
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20091204/F1/912049991
Also: British GP fate to be known on Monday
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80437
alnielsen 12-07-2009, 09:10 AM Silverstone secures British GP
http://www.f1technical.net/images/news/silverstone.jpgThe historic circuit of Silverstone has secured the British Grand Prix from 2010 after long negotiations with Formula One supremo Bernie Ecclestone. Silverstone was set to lose the race as Mr. E signed a 17-year deal with Donington Park, but the track failed to raise the funds to carry out a redevelopment project.
British Racing Drivers' Club President Damon Hill said: "The title of Silverstone as home of motorsport has come true. It is a place for all motorsport. Everyone in the BRDC loves motorsport and we are looking forward to the MotoGP as well as the British Grand Prix.
"It is not easy to enter into a contract of this magnitude and you have to take on a lot of responsibility, but the BRDC wanted this relationship to continue.
"Everyone was well aware that the British GP is not just a sporting event, but it is dynamo of the industry in this country. Losing it would have been damaging and perhaps there would have been no coming back."
http://www.f1technical.net/news/13868?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+F1technicalnetFormulaOneNews+ %28F1technical.net+.+Formula+One+news%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher
alnielsen 12-07-2009, 12:56 PM Hamilton relieved British Grand Prix is saved
http://images.gpupdate.net/newsnew/141576.jpgOn Monday morning the British Racing Drivers' Club revealed that the British Grand Prix at Silverstone has been saved for the upcoming 17 years. Former British Formula 1 champion Lewis Hamilton was happy to hear the 'fantastic news'.
"Firstly, it's fantastic news that the British Grand Prix will stay on the calendar for 2010," said Hamilton. "Secondly, it's great that the race will be at Silverstone. The place has an atmosphere that money can't buy, and I have some fantastic memories of the track - winning both races in GP2 in 2006, getting an incredibly emotional and satisfying pole in '07 and winning in the wet in my championship year.
"Most importantly, those achievements have all been underlined by the reaction and support of the Silverstone crowd, which has always been fantastic. British fans are the greatest Formula 1 supporters in the world - and this must be the best Christmas present they could ever ask for.
"I can't wait to come home to the Santander British Grand Prix next year: both Jenson and I will be flying the flag for Britain and doing our best to win the race."
http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/12/07/hamilton-relieved-british-grand-prix-is-saved/
Rumor has it that Lewis Hamiltons shoes never touch the ground. :suspect:
alnielsen 12-08-2009, 11:30 AM Edited the second post (http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=3333682&postcount=2) to reflect the Silverstone date.
alnielsen 12-10-2009, 10:38 AM 13 F1 Teams to Unveil 2010 Cars in Joint Launch
MONACO (AP) -All 13 Formula One teams will unveil their 2010 cars in a joint launch next month in Valencia, Spain.
Mercedes GP chief executive Nick Fry said Thursday the launch will be "a proper event."
The date for the launch has not yet been decided, but is set to take place just before the first testing session of the season at the Cheste Circuit in Valencia.
http://sports.myway.com/news/12102009/v0312.html
alfy28 12-11-2009, 09:07 AM I can really care less if Michael comes back . I really didnt care for him , i know he is like suppose to be Jesus of F1. But he is a false prophet, we know who the real jesus is (hamilton).
i prefered Mika Häkkinen over the shoe.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/109121123509/mercedes-to-offer-7m-euros-for-schu-return
any how TIME FOR SOME NEWSSSSS!!!!!!!
Mercedes is reportedly proposing to pay Michael Schumacher 7 million euros if he agrees to return to F1 as Nico Rosberg's teammate in 2010.
Bild newspaper said the offer, which is the same one offered to Jenson Button prior to the new world champion's switch to McLaren, will be made by the German marque's competition boss Norbert Haug.
Schumacher, 40, made much more money at Ferrari until 2006, and still makes 5m a year as an advisor to the Italian team, but Bild said Mercedes cannot afford to offer the German any more.
Niki Lauda told the newspaper he is certain "money will not play a role" in Schumacher's decision about whether to re-launch his 16-year F1 career.
Mercedes team chief executive Nick Fry said at the Motor Sport Business Forum in Monaco on Thursday that an announcement about Rosberg's teammate is not likely before Christmas.
"We might say something before Christmas, but it's more likely to be the beginning of January," he is quoted as saying by the Times.
alnielsen 12-11-2009, 11:49 AM FIA proposes new points system
http://www.f1technical.net/images/news/2009/fia.jpg During yesterday's F1 commission meeting, the first since Jean Todt was voted FIA president, the members agreed to the name change request that the Brawn team filed. Along with that, it presented a completely new points system.
The FIA today hosted the first meeting of the F1 Commission in its new structure since the signing of the 2009 Concorde Agreement. Chaired by Commission President Bernie Ecclestone and with FIA President Jean Todt in attendance, the F1 Commission is made up of key championship stakeholders from F1 teams, promoters, suppliers and sponsors.
The F1 Commission agreed that the Brawn team will be allowed to change its chassis name from Brawn to Mercedes. The team will continue to receive payments based on its historical performance. This has been granted on a one-off exceptional basis due to Mercedes-Benz’s long-term involvement and commitment to Formula One.
The F1 Commission also proposed a number of amendments to the sporting and technical regulations, which will be put to the FIA World Motor Sport Council for final approval tomorrow morning. They include:
- Due to the expanded grid of 13 teams, a new points system for the 2010 season:
1st: 25 points
2nd: 20 points
3rd: 15 points
4th: 10 points
5th: 8 points
6th: 6 points
7th: 5 points
8th: 3 points
9th: 2 points
10th: 1 point
- A strong mandate has been given to the Sporting Working Group, a sub-committee of the F1 Commission made up of the FIA and F1 teams, to develop detailed proposals to improve the show. These will take effect from the 2010 championship.
- The FIA and FOM will further collaborate to enhance the communication and promotion of the championship to the media and its worldwide fanbase.
The next meeting of the Formula One Commission will be held on 10 March in Bahrain.
http://www.f1technical.net/news/13878?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+F1technicalnetFormulaOneNews+ %28F1technical.net+.+Formula+One+news%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher
Renesis_8 12-11-2009, 12:05 PM 13 F1 Teams to Unveil 2010 Cars in Joint Launch
MONACO (AP) -All 13 Formula One teams will unveil their 2010 cars in a joint launch next month in Valencia, Spain.
Mercedes GP chief executive Nick Fry said Thursday the launch will be "a proper event."
The date for the launch has not yet been decided, but is set to take place just before the first testing session of the season at the Cheste Circuit in Valencia.
http://sports.myway.com/news/12102009/v0312.html
Thats a good change, makes the wait a lot easier.
________
LovelyMissy cam (http://camslivesexy.com/cam/LovelyMissy)
bse50 12-11-2009, 12:11 PM A new era under mr. todt? :)
alfy28 12-11-2009, 12:44 PM i cant wait to see Brawn new design, since they are with cedes.
bse50 12-11-2009, 01:03 PM i cant wait to see Brawn new design, since they are with cedes.
Who will you be a fan of? the messiah or the mercedes now? :)
Your poor little heart must be broken in 2 pieces now!
diabolical1 12-11-2009, 02:25 PM sounds like things ought to be interesting next year. sad to see Toyota leave, but i'll get over it. the only thing that kind of bothers me is Alonso at Ferrari. he's a great driver, no question, but there's too much drama surrounding him and i'd hate to see my team get caught in something like the Renault fiasco.
alfy28 12-11-2009, 04:04 PM Who will you be a fan of? the messiah or the mercedes now? :)
Your poor little heart must be broken in 2 pieces now!
Shixt what you have been smoking lately man :dunno: of course its going to be messiah. just the current look for brawn was not happening for me. so seeing a cedes sponsored brawn car, hopefully looks better.
alfy28 12-11-2009, 04:05 PM sounds like things ought to be interesting next year. sad to see Toyota leave, but i'll get over it. the only thing that kind of bothers me is Alonso at Ferrari. he's a great driver, no question, but there's too much drama surrounding him and i'd hate to see my team get caught in something like the Renault fiasco.
you just made polo mad.
bse50 12-11-2009, 06:50 PM Shixt what you have been smoking lately man :dunno: of course its going to be messiah. just the current look for brawn was not happening for me. so seeing a cedes sponsored brawn car, hopefully looks better.
Your humor meter must be a bit off :bootyshak
Anyway i'm glad that you're going to stay with the messiah, you loyal fan!
What if schumi joins mercedes? i will probably tilt and explode :(
alnielsen 12-12-2009, 02:24 AM The 2010 race calendar has gone official. Post #2 has been updated.
PerSmitt 12-12-2009, 07:58 AM Your humor meter must be a bit off :bootyshak
Anyway i'm glad that you're going to stay with the messiah, you loyal fan!
What if schumi joins mercedes? i will probably tilt and explode :(
You know this might be wishful thinking... but I really do believe Schumi will drive the other Mercedes car.
And Mercedes vs McLaren vs Ferrari with top drivers in all the cars. Well the latino boys over in the red cars might be a bit too emotional to always drive properly but I predict very exciting races never the less.
bse50 12-12-2009, 08:08 AM You know this might be wishful thinking... but I really do believe Schumi will drive the other Mercedes car.
And Mercedes vs McLaren vs Ferrari with top drivers in all the cars. Well the latino boys over in the red cars might be a bit too emotional to always drive properly but I predict very exciting races never the less.
Yes, do you imagine Alonso saying "yeah, i could have won but i was crying so much i couldn't see the road" :evil_laug
alnielsen 12-12-2009, 11:02 AM German press say Schumacher agrees Mercedes deal
With the exception of an actual signature on the dotted line, Michael Schumacher has reportedly agreed to return to F1 with Mercedes in 2010.
The news magazine Focus as well as the major German daily Bild revealed on Saturday that the 40-year-old, who retired as a Ferrari race driver in 2006, will be Nico Rosberg's teammate.
Bild said a one-year deal has been agreed verbally, and talks about withdrawing from his new consulting contract with Ferrari have been positive.
Focus, whose report was made available ahead of publication on Monday, said whether Schumacher actually signs the contract also depends on the go-ahead of doctors.
A source told Bild: "The signature is just a formality. Schumacher feels fit and healthy. The latest (medical) tests were entirely positive.
"He can't wait for the return and working with Ross Brawn again."
An announcement could be made as early as next week, and Focus said the deal is for 3.5m euros -- about a tenth of Schumacher's retainer when he hung up his helmet with Ferrari.
A longer-term objective is for the German to be an ambassador for the Mercedes brand, the magazine added.
The seven time world champion's spokeswoman Sabine Kehm told DPA news agency she did not want to comment, and his manager Willi Weber told SID that he was "as in the dark as the press".
"I don't know anything about it," Weber added. "I have not spoken with Mercedes, nor do I have any meetings with them."
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=353681:F1
A previous article says that, for Michael, it isn't about the money. He has that.
PerSmitt 12-13-2009, 05:45 AM Ahhh, what is this... the worst silly season ever or what?!
I so hope for Schumi's return. He has the skill to still be competetive, which he has shown in kart-racing, race of champions etc.
And the lineups for this year is awesome in the big teams. I really look forward to seeing Button and Hamilton hammer out the internal pecking order in McLaren. And Massa+Alsonso in Ferrari. It will be good for chuckles and dramatic headlines if nothing else. And Schumi and Rosberg driving for Mercedes. I think Rosberg is one of the most under-valued drivers out there. The way he has handled that inferior Williams car, well he should be up among the big names in the fast cars :)
alfy28 12-14-2009, 09:46 AM Your humor meter must be a bit off :bootyshak
Anyway i'm glad that you're going to stay with the messiah, you loyal fan!
What if schumi joins mercedes? i will probably tilt and explode :(no buddy, we hamilton follwers dont have a sense of humor. do you even know that the world ends in 2012? do you know how serious that is? So we dont have time to joke around here buddy.
I am on full time duty making a underground shelter for the Messiah. Making sure he is well protected by the sun flares, Aliens invasion etc. THis is a serious matter, and not a time for joking. We only have 3 more years to prepare. So time is a serious matter, and its very useless spending it joking around budddy. I understand ferrari fans dont have someone to lead them, but dotn bring us down buddy.
While your running around with your head cutoff, us hamilton fans will be protecting the Messiah till dec 22nd, the day after dec 21 st.
alfy28 12-14-2009, 01:05 PM Lotus on Monday announced that 2009 formula one drivers Jarno Trulli and Heikki Kovalainen will race for the new Malaysian-owned team next season.
Kuala Lumpur-born Fairuz Fauzy was named as the reserve driver at a press conference at the parliament building involving the Malaysian sports minister.
Italian veteran Trulli's involvement had been strongly speculated, but the likelihood of a deal with Kovalainen only became clear with a recent report in Turun Sanomat.
The Finnish newspaper said Trulli and 28-year-old Kovalainen, who have each won a single career grand prix, will both be paid.
With his manager Flavio Briatore banned from any involvement in F1, 2009 McLaren driver Kovalainen's deal was reportedly informally handled by Aces Management, headed by Didier Coton.
"Experience is the most important thing for us, because it's a value you can't buy," said Lotus team boss Tony Fernandes, according to 422race.com.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/109121423532/lotus-confirms-trulli-kovalainen-for-2010
Mazmart 12-14-2009, 07:36 PM no buddy, we hamilton follwers dont have a sense of humor. do you even know that the world ends in 2012? do you know how serious that is? So we dont have time to joke around here buddy.
I am on full time duty making a underground shelter for the Messiah. Making sure he is well protected by the sun flares, Aliens invasion etc. THis is a serious matter, and not a time for joking. We only have 3 more years to prepare. So time is a serious matter, and its very useless spending it joking around budddy. I understand ferrari fans dont have someone to lead them, but dotn bring us down buddy.
While your running around with your head cutoff, us hamilton fans will be protecting the Messiah till dec 22nd, the day after dec 21 st.
:worship: Epic!
This is one of the funniest things I've seen on the forum in a while; I mean serious things rather. :yelrotflm
Paul.
alnielsen 12-14-2009, 11:28 PM Ferrari wouldn't hold Schumacher to his multi year contract
As Chairman for Ferrari, Luca di Montezemolo has shared his companies point of view regarding the rumoured return to racing by Michael Schumacher in 2010 via the Mercedes GP squad. When asked by 'Reuters' if Ferrari would hold Schumacher to his multi year consultancy contract di Montezemolo responded, "No, it's not binding."
"It's clear that, if he decides to take another road, our agreement will no longer be valid - that is logical. You can't work with a competitor and with us at the same time," said di Montezemolo.
Adding, "I still haven't spoken to him about it. He is only a dear friend, not a team member. He is a consultant for our road cars."
http://www.f1technical.net/news/13893?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+F1technicalnetFormulaOneNews+ %28F1technical.net+.+Formula+One+news%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher plus many other sources
Do you think Ferrari doesn't think he is a threat anymore?
alfy28 12-15-2009, 09:42 AM :worship: Epic!
This is one of the funniest things I've seen on the forum in a while; I mean serious things rather. :yelrotflm
Paul. Well i just got a letter from the Messiah, And this is what he said.
Being a Hamilton fan has very great benefits, but please get a life.
now what i think he meant was , But please live your life.
Which i can see the messiah saying, because he is so caring . He also sent back my paper mache statue of him. i think he feels that i should have it, since i put in the all the hard to make it. See this is why i hamilton is the chosen one, he cares so much about his fans.
Mazmart 12-15-2009, 10:08 AM Well i just got a letter from the Messiah, And this is what he said.
Being a Hamilton fan has very great benefits, but please get a life.
now what i think he meant was , But please live your life.
Which i can see the messiah saying, because he is so caring . He also sent back my paper mache statue of him. i think he feels that i should have it, since i put in the all the hard to make it. See this is why i hamilton is the chosen one, he cares so much about his fans.
Dude,
You have me crying with laughter (Over this serious issue):rofl:.
Paul
alfy28 12-15-2009, 10:13 AM lmao maz :)
PerSmitt 12-16-2009, 02:14 AM You just made my day too, Alfy! Thanks!
PerSmitt 12-16-2009, 10:49 AM Looks like Kobayashi will be driving! And I find that great news!
http://www.worldcarfans.com/109121623580/kobayashi-signs-with-sauber-for-2010--report
Mazmart 12-16-2009, 11:49 AM Looks like Kobayashi will be driving! And I find that great news!
http://www.worldcarfans.com/109121623580/kobayashi-signs-with-sauber-for-2010--report
Extremely great news! He'll add a whole lot of spice to the soup.
Paul.
LionZoo 12-16-2009, 12:36 PM Extremely great news! He'll add a whole lot of spice to the soup.
Paul.
Now let's get Sato a seat!
I'm heavily disappointed with Lotus' driver choices. Trulli and Kovalainen are as dull as Toyota's car lineup.
LionZoo 12-16-2009, 01:56 PM http://www.autosport.com/news/grapevine.php/id/80599
The poster is especially amusing...
alfy28 12-16-2009, 05:01 PM http://www.autosport.com/news/grapevine.php/id/80599
The poster is especially amusing...
Umm were to begin. Guess I should start by asking you, who gave you privilege to post articles about any F1 news. From my understanding, me and aln are the only one's atm who have special privilege to post.
So i am going to ask you very nicely and tell me who gave you the right to do so? their are special guidelines that you must follow, to order to post in the best thread in the world. This isnt like the other threads that you find on this site, where a random joe can just post what ever.
So in the future, you will either A. have to call me , B. Email me, or C. pm me. reason why is, i like to controll what is being posted. IF anything negative you find against the MEssiah, i would like to be the first one to know.
My reason behind that is, hamilton fans here are very sensitive ppl. I should know, i am one of those sensitive hamilton fans.
Like last season when hamilton wasnt doing well, hmm let me rephrase that, WHEN HAMILTON CAR WAS NOT DOING WELL (Because the messiah never makes mistakes, and if ppl think that, they are very i dont know, DELUSIONAL) every day i would cry my self to sleep, it got so bad that i broke with my GF , which is also my cat. But that story is for antoher day.
But if you find anything negative agains ferrari, you dont need my persmission.
alnielsen 12-16-2009, 05:09 PM Alfy, who gave you permission? :rollingla
alfy28 12-16-2009, 05:26 PM Alfy, who gave you permission? :rollingla oh please dont mind aln. he is very modest, he just doenst want to hurt your feelings.
come to think of it, i felt really bad lion. so i am going out of the limb here, and share with you a pic that i taken at brazil. this pic was taken after he defeated massa (cough cough polo) for the championship. he invited me to his atfter party. also dont ask me who those 3 other ppl are, because i dont know.
http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=149431&stc=1&d=1261002390
LionZoo 12-16-2009, 05:29 PM Umm were to begin. Guess I should start by asking you, who gave you privilege to post articles about any F1 news. From my understanding, me and aln are the only one's atm who have special privilege to post.
So i am going to ask you very nicely and tell me who gave you the right to do so? their are special guidelines that you must follow, to order to post in the best thread in the world. This isnt like the other threads that you find on this site, where a random joe can just post what ever.
So in the future, you will either A. have to call me , B. Email me, or C. pm me. reason why is, i like to controll what is being posted. IF anything negative you find against the MEssiah, i would like to be the first one to know.
My reason behind that is, hamilton fans here are very sensitive ppl. I should know, i am one of those sensitive hamilton fans.
Like last season when hamilton wasnt doing well, hmm let me rephrase that, WHEN HAMILTON CAR WAS NOT DOING WELL (Because the messiah never makes mistakes, and if ppl think that, they are very i dont know, DELUSIONAL) every day i would cry my self to sleep, it got so bad that i broke with my GF , which is also my cat. But that story is for antoher day.
But if you find anything negative agains ferrari, you dont need my persmission.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hz6fZTvjfU
alfy28 12-16-2009, 07:21 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hz6fZTvjfU umm you must didnt read the memo . for starters, that whole video was photoshopped. no way that the messiah gravel pitted his car. i think he would know where the pit stop is, and sure isnt in the sand. so please stop posting vids that are completely photoshopped by ferrari fans.
LionZoo 12-17-2009, 12:49 AM umm you must didnt read the memo . for starters, that whole video was photoshopped. no way that the messiah gravel pitted his car. i think he would know where the pit stop is, and sure isnt in the sand. so please stop posting vids that are completely photoshopped by ferrari fans.
http://www.blingblog.info/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/nicole-scherzinger.jpg
alfy28 12-17-2009, 11:44 AM ^^ umm yah, i think you have a good future with us here.
Mazmart 12-17-2009, 11:49 AM Thanks for the humor in between the news stories. You guys are awesome.
Paul.
alfy28 12-17-2009, 12:17 PM Thanks for the humor in between the news stories. You guys are awesome.
Paul.
np maz, anythign to make ppl laugh :ylsuper:
PerSmitt 12-21-2009, 02:55 AM Lovely christmascard from Bernie this year! (As always)
http://www.worldcarfans.com/109122023650/briatore-to-sink-yacht-in-bernies-christmas-card
alnielsen 12-21-2009, 08:08 AM Report: Formula One heading to Rome
Sunday 20th December 2009
Bernie Ecclestone has agreed a deal which would see Formula One come to the streets of Rome, according to course planner Maurizio Flammini.
A Rome grand prix, raced through the streets of the Italian capital much like that of Monaco, has been in planning for over a year and a half.
And Flammini, the creator of the idea, has revealed they have now been given the green light by the Formula One supremo.
"The agreement with Formula One chief Bernie Ecclestone to give life to the Rome Grand Prix has already been done and signed," he told Sky Italia.
"The appropriate course still has to be defined."
Italy already has a grand prix on the world championship circuit, in Monza.
There were fears when plans for a Rome grand prix were first mooted that it would replace the historic track which has been a more or less permanent fixture in the Formula One calendar since 1922.
However, the mayor of Rome, Gianni Alemanno, insists it will serve as a second Italian grand prix.
"We think the Rome Grand Prix would be very important and we are in favour of it," he said. "And it's not true that it is an alternative to Monza.
"Monza is a grand prix on the circuit, and the grand prix of Rome is integrative to that of Monza, it's not a replacement.
"We have calculated that there will be an income of one billion euros a year with this grand prix and Rome needs to renew its tourist appeal.
"Not only the past, archaeology and monuments, but also the future, something which is aimed at families and youngsters."
http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5789961,00.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+devexel-planetf1+%28Planet+F1+-+RSS%29&utm_content=Google+International
bse50 12-21-2009, 08:14 AM They said 2012 or at the end of the 2011 season...
We will also need an under-pass on the cristoforo colombo... that's gonna suck traffic wise.
Who cares though!
I want to meet at least you al, alfy and paul :)
Mazmart 12-21-2009, 08:38 AM Roma, here I come :wiggle:.
Unfortunately it seems like I can never get away from this company to which I'm tied :(
Paul.
alfy28 12-21-2009, 03:12 PM What began as a wild rumour has slowly edged towards near-fact: Michael Schumacher is returning to the formula one grid.
The hardening speculation has been all but confirmed by Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo, with whom the 40-year-old German won five of his seven world championships until 2006.
The Italian told international reporters at a Christmas dinner on Friday that, during a conversation with Ferrari adviser Schumacher earlier this week, "he told me there is a very strong possibility" he will race a Mercedes next year.
Montezemolo joked that, after Schumacher renewed his consultancy contract for three additional years at Monza in mid September, the German set to be Nico Rosberg's 2010 teammate is the Ferrari legend's "twin".
"There's another one who looks like him, 40, 41 years old, German, same name and decided to do a new career," he said.
Montezemolo confirms that some of Ferrari's passionate Tifosi will not appreciate the news that Schumacher will be wearing silver in 2010.
"They think Michael is a traitor. But I will explain to them it is not Michael but another one. The real Michael is still with Ferrari."
Schumacher's return is set to be announced either shortly after Christmas, or at the beginning of January.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/109121923645/ferrari-boss-reveals-schumacher-to-race-mercedes-in-2010
alnielsen 12-21-2009, 09:34 PM I want to meet at least you al, alfy and paul :)While I've been all over the US, I've never really left the US before except the British Virgin Islands & Canada (does Canada really count? :)) and I no longer have my traveling companion anymore. So, I don't think this will happen for me. I have never seen a GP live. I've had opportunities to be at USGP during the 80's & 90's when I was a turn marshall (corner worker here in the US). But, it was so much easier to just watch it on TV.
alnielsen 12-22-2009, 09:20 PM Ecclestone expects two new teams to fold
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=354037:F1
USF1, Campos, say they will race in 2010
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=354064:F1
alnielsen 12-22-2009, 09:31 PM Michael Schumacher signs up for F1 return with Mercedes
Seven-times Formula 1 world champion Michael Schumacher will come out of retirement to race for Mercedes next year, BBC Sport understands.
The German, who will be 41 on 3 January, has signed a contract and the deal will be announced imminently.
Schumacher will partner compatriot Nico Rosberg in the team that won the drivers' and constructors' titles in 2009 in its former guise as Brawn.
His spokeswoman Sabine Kehm said she could not make any comment.
The German newspaper Bild is reporting that Schumacher signed a one-year deal and it is likely he will have the option to continue beyond 2010 if his returns goes well.
Schumacher will reportedly earn £6.2m after signing up to reunite with Mercedes team principal Ross Brawn, who masterminded all seven of his titles, the first two with Benetton in 1994-5 and the subsequent five with Ferrari from 2000-4.
Mercedes are known to want German rising star Sebastian Vettel in the long term, but the 22-year-old is contracted to Red Bull until the end of 2012.
Schumacher was forced to call off a planned temporary comeback as a stand-in for injured Ferrari driver Felipe Massa last season because of a neck injury sustained in a motorcycle accident last February.
But Schumacher is known to have had medical checks recently and it must be assumed he has been given the all clear as he would not want to face the same embarrassment again.
He signed a revised contract as a consultant for Ferrari, but he told Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo that he was "very close" to concluding a deal to race for Mercedes.
Ferrari have had to release him from his contract to enable him to race for Mercedes.
His comeback is the most high profile in F1 since Austrian Niki Lauda came out of a two-year retirement for the 1982 season to race for McLaren.
Lauda, who was 33 at the time, went on to win a third world title in 1984.
Juan Manuel Fangio is Formula 1's oldest world champion, the Argentine won a fifth world championship at the age of 46 before retiring.
Schumacher has been training hard in preparation for a return and, assuming his neck is fully healed, is not expected to have any problems with fitness.
His former team-mate Eddie Irvine told the BBC last week that he expected Schumacher would win races, even though he would not be as powerful a force as before.
"The speed will be there, though he won't be as fast as he was seven years ago," Irvine said.
"He's not at the peak of his game, but he's still good enough to win races as he has such an immense talent. It's still four wheels, a steering wheel and an engine and there's never been anyone better than Michael."
Irvine said he thought Schumacher would be at a disadvantage in wheel-to-wheel racing compared to the younger generation of drivers such as 2008 world champion Lewis Hamilton.
"Lewis isn't going to back off, but Michael will have to because he'll be 41," Irvine said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8427552.stm
PerSmitt 12-23-2009, 07:14 AM Damn this is good news! The next season will be so exciting!
I am so looking forward to seeing the racing next year with a lot of cars on the grid.
bse50 12-23-2009, 07:40 AM All of this drama makes this F1 championship like the big brother of racing...
Now alfy must photoChop something because the real Holy Messiah is back! I think that hamilton will be faster though, age is age.
alnielsen 12-23-2009, 04:37 PM SPEED Extends With Formula One
SPEED™ REACHES MULTI-YEAR AGREEMENT ON FIA FORMULA ONE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP™
DEAL EXTENDS RELATIONSHIP DATING BACK TO NETWORK’S ORIGIN
ADDITIONAL WEB RIGHTS GRANTED TO SPEEDtv.com
SPEED and Formula One Management have reached an agreement to extend a relationship that dates back to 1996, the network’s first full season on the air. SPEED will continue to offer its long-running live coverage of the FIA Formula One World Championship, including live coverage of qualifying and practice sessions.
Continued at: http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-speed-extends-with-formula-one/
PerSmitt 12-24-2009, 02:29 PM All of this drama makes this F1 championship like the big brother of racing...
Now alfy must photoChop something because the real Holy Messiah is back! I think that hamilton will be faster though, age is age.
As a Silver Knight (color soon to be revised when McLarens new livery will be revealed) I am ashamed to admit that the false prophet might actually challenge the Messiah.
Whoever has the faster car of them will take the most victories the next years. I believe the drivers are on par, age or no age. With equal cars I believe we will witness battles mortal eyes are not meant to see (one or the other crashing out, or both)
Alfy, get chopping :)
alnielsen 12-24-2009, 02:34 PM As a Silver Knight (color soon to be revised when McLarens new livery will be revealed) I am ashamed to admit that the false prophet might actually challenge the Messiah.
For the purposes of our discussion here, false prophet doesn't quite fit. I think King works better.
alnielsen 12-26-2009, 01:58 AM USF1 Website Goes Live
http://www.usgpe.com/index.html
USF1 website shows monocoque construction
Date 2009-12-25
By Motorsport.com/GMM
USF1 has launched an official website, including a video showing progress on its 2010 car.
The new American entry's sporting director Peter Windsor recently denied Bernie Ecclestone's claim that it might not contest next year's world championship.
"F1 has not only survived the global recession, it is expanding still further, with new races in new countries and a 26 car grid," said part of the welcome message.
A video posted to USF1's official Youtube channel, meanwhile, shows the progress at the Charlotte headquarters, including the construction of the car's monocoque.
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=354124:F1
alfy28 12-28-2009, 12:02 AM http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=149768&stc=1&d=1261976518
ATL-GP 12-29-2009, 12:01 PM Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa....that's awesome!!!
alnielsen 01-01-2010, 03:23 PM Post #1 has been edited to reflect the current team drivers.
PerSmitt 01-02-2010, 03:54 AM Post #1 has been edited to reflect the current team drivers.
You misspelled Heikki in post #1. Sorry for being an ass :)
alnielsen 01-02-2010, 08:30 AM Rosberg: It was Schumi who made F1 dangerous
The on-track hostilities might still be more than two months away yet, but it seems that tension may already be in the air at Mercedes Grand Prix – with comments made by Nico Rosberg at the end of the 2009 campaign suggesting that his F1 2010 team-mate Michael Schumacher is responsible for legitimising many of the questionable driving tactics seen in the top flight today.
Rosberg has already expressed his belief that compatriot Schumacher could find things tough on his return to the grand prix grid following a three-year absence when the starting lights go out in Bahrain in mid-March [see separate story – click here], and now it has emerged that the 24-year-old previously pinned the blame for some of the lax driving standards in the modern era firmly at the door of the record-breaking seven-time F1 World Champion's infamous 'win-at-all-costs' approach.
“It is Michael Schumacher who started this, like at Spa, when Mika Hakkinen tried to overtake him and he ran him off the track,” the German is quoted as having said by F1 Fanatic shortly after the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix 2009 season finale, alluding to the race ten years ago when the Kerpen native squeezed his Finnish rival virtually onto the grass as they diced for the lead at 200mph, effectively offering him the choice of either backing off or else causing a huge accident. “When the guy behind has made a decision [to pass] and the guy in front then moves over, it is very dangerous. You cannot do that. That was the first time I remember it being a dangerous issue.”
Schumacher has ever been a controversial and divisive figure in the paddock, with few in any doubt as to his talent and none disputing his outstanding success – but a good many more dubious about the somewhat devil-may-care manner he has adopted in order to achieve it, as he has run right to the edge of the limits and rules, and occasionally beyond. Governing body the FIA has more often than not turned a blind eye.
Damon Hill and Jacques Villeneuve have both been on the receiving end of the 40-year-old's decidedly strong-arm tactics when he is determined to get what he wants, and comparisons have been drawn with the sheer, cold-blooded ruthlessness displayed by fellow multiple title-winner Ayrton Senna. Parking his Ferrari in the middle of the track in the dying moments of qualifying at Monaco in 2006 is another example. It is, Rosberg contends, a dangerous precedent – with others having since looked, learned...and emulated.
“[Rubens] Barrichello, [Mark] Webber and [Kamui] Kobayashi did exactly the same thing [at Interlagos],” he continued. “With Webber, [Kimi] Raikkonen lost his front wing, with Kobayashi, [Kazuki] Nakajima had a massive 'off', which could have been much worse – you can really hurt yourself, marshals and others in that sort of accident. With Barrichello, Lewis [Hamilton] ran into the back of his tyre. That was the third time – and it is not allowed to happen.”
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/155650/1/rosberg_it_was_schumi_who_made_f1_dangerous.html
You misspelled Heikki in post #1. Sorry for being an ass :)
I did that on purpose. Just to see if there was any life out there and if anyone was paying attention. :p:
alnielsen 01-03-2010, 10:45 AM A couple of articles popped up that I thought were interesting, but I won't post them in full. If they sound interesting to you, read them at your leisure.
F1 designers call for track changes
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=47588&PO=47588
The real reason why car manufacturers are pulling out of F1
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=39728 also,
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/motorsport/redlining-slow-car-sales-speeds-exodus-of-marques-from-f1-grid-20100103-lner.html
alnielsen 01-04-2010, 02:38 PM Lopez closing on USF1 deal, Rossiter for second seat?
Date 2010-01-04
By Motorsport.com/GMM
Jose Maria Lopez looks set to secure one race seat at USF1, and the other may go to the British driver James Rossiter, according to reports from Argentina.
The publication Corsa revealed that Argentine Lopez, who has not raced a single seater since GP2 in 2006, has recently done two days to re-acclimatise at the wheel of a F3 car.
It is said that sponsors on the car, including to promote Argentinean tourism, the Top Race V6 series and the company Kwan, will all accompany Lopez to USF1.
His manager Felipe McGough, also working closely with the Automovil Club Argentino, confirmed that the deal with F1's new American team is still on.
"In the last weeks we made much progress, but the holidays were a complication. All is well.
"They are sensitive contracts. We must have patience. The idea is that the team makes the announcement," he said.
In late November it emerged that Lopez, 26, had penned a deal conditional on the completion of his $8m sponsor package.
Other reports said the team's sporting director Peter Windsor is already working on obtaining a Super License for the Argentinian touring car driver, and is confident of the outcome due to his Renault test duties of some years ago.
Moreover, Lopez is scheduled to travel to Britain and Austria in the next few days for physical training, before travelling to Charlotte for seat fittings and official team events at the end of January.
It is believed the delay in the finalisation of the contract is to organise bank guarantees to cover Lopez's sponsor funds.
According to lavoz.com.ar, Lopez said: "I think that on about the 25th (of January) I am going to go to North Carolina for the official presentation of the team, and if need be some checks on the car before the official February tests in Valencia."
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=354326:F1
US F1 laments summer shutdown
By Pablo Elizalde Monday, January 4th 2010, 13:44 GMT
US F1 factoryUS F1's sporting director Peter Windsor says his team is frustrated by the mandatory summer shutdown imposed in Formula 1 since last year.
Since the rule was introduced, all teams have been forced to shut down their factories during the August break in order to reduce costs.
Windsor said his team, which will make its F1 debut this year, will follow the rules and shut down its factory too, but reluctantly.
"We're all complaining a little about everything closing down for the New Year but - believe me – America is currently much more industrious than the UK," Windsor wrote on the US F1 website's blog.
"Here, at our home base, we were quiet on Christmas Day (naturally) and then again today. The UK – and most of Europe – basically shut down on December 18 and will not stagger back to life until January 4. That's 16 valuable days lost in the too-short life of the F1 European winter.
"And that's not all: remember the August F1 shutdown that was introduced for the first time in 2009? Well, it's happening again in 2010. Understand that most of Europe closes for August and you kind of understand the decision. Unless you're American, that is.
"As in Australia, August for Americans is just another working month in which some people maybe take a week or two away. There's no nationwide shutdown, as such – not of the type that regularly afflicts massive F1 teams like Ferrari.
"For years all of their suppliers have been shutting their doors for the month of August – and for years the European teams have been complaining that the situation has been growing worse, not better."
He added: "There was an F1 team meeting vote in the early fall about whether the 2009 F1 August shutdown had been a 'success'. I was impressed to hear the McLaren guys say that it was a waste of time and that most of their staff had found it all very frustrating, but sadly these were lone voices: the majority of the teams, led by Red Bull, it seemed to me, are firmly committed to the summer shutdown. And so shut down we will."
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80730
This one is the talk of the European press.
alnielsen 01-05-2010, 10:20 AM Ex-Renault boss Flavio Briatore has F1 ban lifted
Former Renault team boss Flavio Briatore has had his lifetime ban from motorsport overturned.
The Italian was banned by the sport's governing body, the FIA, for his part in Nelson Piquet Jr's deliberate crash at the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix.
That decision has now been overturned by the French high court.
Briatore's representatives argued that procedures adopted during the investigation were against the FIA's international sporting code.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8440675.stm
alnielsen 01-05-2010, 10:36 AM A street race in Rome
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns22012.html
The plan seems to be to use sports grounds along the Via Tre Fontana at the northern end of EUR for the paddock area.
All things considered, it is a great idea — particularly if it does replace the Istanbul race, which is a waste of time and money for all concerned.
An interesting article that contains alot of pre-war Italian Formula One history.
alfy28 01-06-2010, 12:41 PM I think is pretty lame that cedes is using the RB name for their car. sounds like a redbull name.
http://img.worldcarfans.com/2009/12/medium/8695710.jpg
The 2010 Mercedes GP car will be launched on January 25, according to a report in Germany's Sport Bild weekly.
It emerged shortly after Christmas that the unveiling event would take place late this month in Stuttgart, probably at the Mercedes-Benz museum in Unterturkheim.
In its latest edition on Wednesday, the magazine also revealed that the car will be called the 'Mercedes-Petronas RB1', with the 'RB' standing for team boss Ross Brawn.
Meanwhile, it is claimed that whether Michael Schumacher or Nico Rosberg will conduct the first test day with the car at Valencia on 1 February is yet to be decided.
BlueRenesis82 01-06-2010, 01:05 PM I feel sorry for Nico in that whole thing, coming from a team where he was definitely the #1 driver, to a team where Schumacher has such a history with both the engine partner, as well as the team principal. I wonder if Schumacher has the #1 clause in his contract again.
alfy28 01-06-2010, 01:24 PM I feel sorry for Nico in that whole thing, coming from a team where he was definitely the #1 driver, to a team where Schumacher has such a history with both the engine partner, as well as the team principal. I wonder if Schumacher has the #1 clause in his contract again.
yah me too, its must be hard to have a teammate that will pretty much take the show on his team.
ATL-GP 01-06-2010, 01:58 PM ^^I'm sure it will be. BUT, looking at it from another perspective, this is the best opportunity for old Nico to show the world what he's got. Really, if he can take the fight to Mike and straight up beat him from time to time, it's going to really increase is worth in the F1 paddock. On the other hand, if Nico gets his ass handed to him on a "silver" (sorry, couldn't resist the pun) platter, then hey...what did we expect, I can think of a whole lot worse people to get an ass kicking from. Better Nico get beat by MS than somebody like....uhhhh, I dunno... Alex Yoong for example.
ATL-GP 01-06-2010, 02:02 PM OH, didn't really address the #1 status issue..., but I can't see Brawn holding Nico back if he out qualifies MS
kartweb 01-06-2010, 03:04 PM F1 has been getting better and better over the last few years. I've long been a fan since the early days of ABC Wide World of Sports coverage and attended several US GP's including Watkins Glen, Long Beach, and Dallas. There were several years where the racing turned into a parade, but they've returned to a racing with a passion.
Last year I tried something new that took watching the F1 races to a whole new dimension. Imagine the difference between listening to a radio broadcast of an F1 race vrs an HD broadcast in 1180i on a 52" LCD screen......Thats the level of difference it made.
What I did was joined an rFactor F1 league and ran a simracing series on the same tracks as the F1 races. Simraces were scheduled a couple days after the actual race so about the time the televised race rolls around I already had 100 or so laps in at that track.
Not only were lap times very similar, with proper setup so were shift points, braking points, passing areas, even pit strategy and tire selections.
Watching the race after running laps gives you almost an on-board sensation when they flip to onboard cameras.
Of course if you're not that into F1 then it wouldn't be much interest to you.
alnielsen 01-06-2010, 03:48 PM I've long been a fan since the early days of ABC Wide World of Sports coverage My gosh, you are about as old as I am if you saw that show. The problem was the only thing they broadcast was the Monaco GP. (BTW, I was watching the day the guy tumbled off the ski jump.)
alfy28 01-06-2010, 03:52 PM ^^I'm sure it will be. BUT, looking at it from another perspective, this is the best opportunity for old Nico to show the world what he's got. Really, if he can take the fight to Mike and straight up beat him from time to time, it's going to really increase is worth in the F1 paddock. On the other hand, if Nico gets his ass handed to him on a "silver" (sorry, couldn't resist the pun) platter, then hey...what did we expect, I can think of a whole lot worse people to get an ass kicking from. Better Nico get beat by MS than somebody like....uhhhh, I dunno... Alex Yoong for example.
i reallly hope nico does really well. i remember last year, he kept on saying that he just needs a good car. so there shouldnt be a excuse for him not to do well with the cu rrent team. unless if he means a good car (the car that breaks down the most ) ferrari lol
alfy28 01-06-2010, 03:55 PM F1 has been getting better and better over the last few years. I've long been a fan since the early days of ABC Wide World of Sports coverage and attended several US GP's including Watkins Glen, Long Beach, and Dallas. There were several years where the racing turned into a parade, but they've returned to a racing with a passion.
Last year I tried something new that took watching the F1 races to a whole new dimension. Imagine the difference between listening to a radio broadcast of an F1 race vrs an HD broadcast in 1180i on a 52" LCD screen......Thats the level of difference it made.
What I did was joined an rFactor F1 league and ran a simracing series on the same tracks as the F1 races. Simraces were scheduled a couple days after the actual race so about the time the televised race rolls around I already had 100 or so laps in at that track.
Not only were lap times very similar, with proper setup so were shift points, braking points, passing areas, even pit strategy and tire selections.
Watching the race after running laps gives you almost an on-board sensation when they flip to onboard cameras.
Of course if you're not that into F1 then it wouldn't be much interest to you.
thats cool. last year i done something different. I blinded folded my self and imagine the race , by hearing the sound of the cars. ALso imagined Kimi making lattes while driving, hamilton swinging his light saber around. Oh cant forget alonso, putting on makeup while he drives.
this year i am going to the extra mile, ill sim the whole race by using my hotwheels.
alnielsen 01-06-2010, 04:14 PM i reallly hope nico does really well. i remember last year, he kept on saying that he just needs a good car. so there shouldnt be a excuse for him not to do well with the cu rrent team. unless if he means a good car (the car that breaks down the most ) ferrari lol
Notice that the Ferrari's didn't break down until Michael left the team.
this year i am going to the extra mile, ill sim the whole race by using my hotwheels. I'll do you one better and do it with HO slot cars. I do have enough track that I can do a resonable sim of the tracks.
PerSmitt 01-07-2010, 03:47 AM F1 has been getting better and better over the last few years. I've long been a fan since the early days of ABC Wide World of Sports coverage and attended several US GP's including Watkins Glen, Long Beach, and Dallas. There were several years where the racing turned into a parade, but they've returned to a racing with a passion.
Last year I tried something new that took watching the F1 races to a whole new dimension. Imagine the difference between listening to a radio broadcast of an F1 race vrs an HD broadcast in 1180i on a 52" LCD screen......Thats the level of difference it made.
What I did was joined an rFactor F1 league and ran a simracing series on the same tracks as the F1 races. Simraces were scheduled a couple days after the actual race so about the time the televised race rolls around I already had 100 or so laps in at that track.
Not only were lap times very similar, with proper setup so were shift points, braking points, passing areas, even pit strategy and tire selections.
Watching the race after running laps gives you almost an on-board sensation when they flip to onboard cameras.
Of course if you're not that into F1 then it wouldn't be much interest to you.
I know what you mean. I have been addicted to Silverstone GP circuit on Forza Motorsport. I have been driving around a thousand laps now since I have been at it for a long time. When it is the Silverstone GP I can recognize everything so much easier and the understanding for lines is so much greater. It is lovely.
PerSmitt 01-07-2010, 05:49 AM ^^I'm sure it will be. BUT, looking at it from another perspective, this is the best opportunity for old Nico to show the world what he's got. Really, if he can take the fight to Mike and straight up beat him from time to time, it's going to really increase is worth in the F1 paddock. On the other hand, if Nico gets his ass handed to him on a "silver" (sorry, couldn't resist the pun) platter, then hey...what did we expect, I can think of a whole lot worse people to get an ass kicking from. Better Nico get beat by MS than somebody like....uhhhh, I dunno... Alex Yoong for example.
Agreed. Even if Nico cannot hold his own against Schumi his value will not decrease. Nico also has an awesome chance to learn from someone who has an incredible amount of experience. Nico will grow as a driver from this, of that I am certain.
alnielsen 01-08-2010, 01:59 PM USF1 car to make test debut on American soil
The first USF1 car will make its debut on an American circuit, it was announced on Friday.
The Charlotte based team's sporting director Peter Windsor told the official F1 website that the FIA has granted special dispensation to allow winter testing for USF1 away from the normal European group sessions.
"Because we are a new team and start everything from zero the first time we will run the car will be in the United States at the Barber Motorsport Park in Alabama, the circuit that was nominated by the FIA for us," he said.
Windsor added that the maiden test will take place "at the beginning of February", but was not more specific.
He said the FIA dispensation allows for three tests in the US, before the car is shipped to Spain "to do some testing there before we fly out to Bahrain".
It has been reported in recent days that Argentine driver Jose Maria Lopez is close to finalising his sponsorship package for one USF1 race seat, while the Briton James Rossiter is rumoured to be in contention for the other.
Said Windsor: "We are very close to announcing our drivers. We've been talking to some great racing drivers over the last couple of months -- and it is very difficult choosing from the good drivers that are around.
"I think there are still a lot and the difficult thing is to choose only two out of ten that are available. It's a difficult job and I hate having to do that. We have not signed our forward deals yet in terms of the contracts, but we are pretty near to announcing," he added.
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=354581:F1
USF1 admits rookie driver lineup likely
Peter Windsor has all but confirmed speculation the new American team USF1 will field two rookies for its Grand Prix debut in March.
Amid constant rumours that the Charlotte based outfit will not make it to Bahrain at all, it has been reported that experienced drivers earlier linked to USF1 - including Pedro de la Rosa, Jacques Villeneuve and Alex Wurz - are no longer in the running.
Instead, the team is expected to sign a deal with the Argentine touring car driver Jose Maria Lopez, who apparently has $8m of sponsorship in tow, while Britain's James Rossiter has also been speculatively mentioned.
Both have F1 experience limited only to some testing, and commercial backing.
Asked by F1's official website about USF1's approach to drivers, sporting director Windsor answered: "You could say it's an opportunity to give two young guys with a lot of talent a chance to come on board with fresh, clean minds, grow with the team and operate within the system the team is going to work within."
He also refused to rule out using what is traditionally known in F1 as "pay drivers".
"All we can do is look at what is available.
"We are a start-up team so we have to look at every opportunity," said Windsor. "If there are companies out there that have associations with a driver because they have been supporting him for quite a while, or representing a country, or whatever, obviously we have to look at that.
"Providing the driver can do the job as well," he added.
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=354583:F1
I wonder if the testing at Barber will be open to fans?
Also: Teams steering to double diffuser ban for 2011
Formula One teams have recently agreed on banning the double deck diffusers as of 2011. While it is now too late to make the change for 2010, it is believed that this is the best way to implement a further decrease on the downforce levels of current F1 cars.
Double diffusers have only been used this year after BrawnGP, Williams and Toyota debuted the devices during winter testing. Despite other teams deeming it illegal, the FIA found the exploit of the regulation loophole valid, forcing the remaining 8 teams to urgently develop a similar device themselves.
The DDD design benefits from feeder holes in the car's floor to generate more downforce. More air is pulled inwards onto the diffuser and hence the car is sucked harder to the floor. A ban of the device is expected to reduce laptimes by approximately 1 second.
Autosport have also learned that there is now an attempt ongoing to formulate the regulation change so that no team will be able to exploit a loophole in this area. When an agreement is reached, the regulation will be sent to the technical regulations working group (TRWG) to evaluate and forward to the FIA for approval.
Talking to the autosport magazine, Lotus' technical chief Mike Gascoyne confirmed the move but claimed that it was unlikely to improve overtaking on its own.
http://www.f1technical.net/news/13968?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+F1technicalnetFormulaOneNews+ %28F1technical.net+.+Formula+One+news%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher
alfy28 01-08-2010, 02:58 PM Notice that the Ferrari's didn't break down until Michael left the team.
I'll do you one better and do it with HO slot cars. I do have enough track that I can do a resonable sim of the tracks.
:rollingla
alfy28 01-08-2010, 02:59 PM Agreed. Even if Nico cannot hold his own against Schumi his value will not decrease. Nico also has an awesome chance to learn from someone who has an incredible amount of experience. Nico will grow as a driver from this, of that I am certain.
well i am glad taht MS isnt hamiltons team member. because MS would be learning from the greatest driver ever :)
alnielsen 01-10-2010, 10:48 AM Campos Meta on the brink
Campos Meta's entry in the 2010 Formula One World Championship has been put further in doubt with the news that Tony Teixeira has entered the frame to take over the Spanish outfit.
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns22023.html
Lewis: I blew Alonso away in my rookie year
Lewis Hamilton has upped the ante ahead of the 2010 Formula One season by claiming he "blew" Fernando Alonso away during his debut season in 2007.
http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5850810,00.html
PerSmitt 01-11-2010, 01:34 AM Lewis: I blew Alonso away in my rookie year
Lewis Hamilton has upped the ante ahead of the 2010 Formula One season by claiming he "blew" Fernando Alonso away during his debut season in 2007.
http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5850810,00.html
I love when someone dares to stick out a bit. Those words can become very bitter indeed if the 2010 car sucks. However if McLaren hands the Ferrari cars their own rear ends this year... Well then it would suck to have the name Fernando Alonso.
bse50 01-11-2010, 03:48 AM Alfy's messiah is pretty confident in this 2010...
What if Ferrari accidentally makes another good car and he ends up third or fourth? :)
PerSmitt 01-11-2010, 04:30 AM Alfy's messiah is pretty confident in this 2010...
What if Ferrari accidentally makes another good car and he ends up third or fourth? :)
Then at least he went down with style :)
And besides, Ferrari will probably get smacked by Mercedes and Schumi. Ah the ironies in life.
Mazmart 01-11-2010, 08:32 AM This year is going to be SO good!
Paul.
alfy28 01-11-2010, 11:17 AM Alfy's messiah is pretty confident in this 2010...
What if Ferrari accidentally makes another good car and he ends up third or fourth? :)
That’s my boy. While alonso was blocking his teammate in the pits, old Hamilton was blowing shit up (Alonso). But I feel Hamilton is going to just fine for 2010. He the type of driver who loves a challenge, and with MS racing again, its going to push Hamilton even further. But I do feel that Mclaren is going to be fine in 2010.
also like to add, ferrari had a really good car, when hamilton was a rookie. so to me, its really up to the drivers.
alfy28 01-11-2010, 08:25 PM i predict that alonso will pit block Massa, if massa does better then him.
PerSmitt 01-12-2010, 01:39 AM i predict that alonso will pit block Massa, if massa does better then him.
I predict Massa will rip off the fuel-hose attached to his car, do a donut to slap Alonso with the hose.
Oh wait, there is no refueling this year. Nevermind then.
mike1324a 01-12-2010, 03:12 AM I predict that the development of the Ferrari will be the best since 2006 since Alonso is a great car developer. The Mclaren and Ferrari will be good again. I dont know how Mercedes will keep up with the development of the big dogs but hopefully they can provide Michael with a good car all season. Im sure Michael will be given number 1 status while rosberg flounders in the midpack like always. Ill bet hamilton crushes Button a la Alonso/Piquet last 2 years. Most interesting of all will be how Alonso handles Massa as a teammate.
alfy28 01-12-2010, 07:39 PM I predict Massa will rip off the fuel-hose attached to his car, do a donut to slap Alonso with the hose.
Oh wait, there is no refueling this year. Nevermind then.
lmao.
Its going to be really weird to see no pits.
I predict that the development of the Ferrari will be the best since 2006 since Alonso is a great car developer. The Mclaren and Ferrari will be good again. I dont know how Mercedes will keep up with the development of the big dogs but hopefully they can provide Michael with a good car all season. Im sure Michael will be given number 1 status while rosberg flounders in the midpack like always. Ill bet hamilton crushes Button a la Alonso/Piquet last 2 years. Most interesting of all will be how Alonso handles Massa as a teammate. please mike, dont put Good car developer and Alonso together. You might actually make alonso head even bigger :). man i cant wait to see Hamilton fly by these wannabe's (MS)
alnielsen 01-12-2010, 07:40 PM lmao.
Its going to be really weird to see no pits.
They will still pit for tires. But with no refueling, maybe only once per race.
PerSmitt 01-13-2010, 02:25 AM They will still pit for tires. But with no refueling, maybe only once per race.
With such a heavy car the tire use will be increased. Of course we don't know what Bridgestone intend to do with the 2010 tires for durability though. But I predict at least 2 stops / race to have fresh tires.
ATL-GP 01-13-2010, 08:32 AM Yeah, I think the tire wear is going to be pretty significant, especially with the fronts being narrower. One thing though, without the refueling...the pit stops are going to be CRAZY FAST....I bet they'll be in the 4 sec range or so. That's going to be awesome!!! Shit man...is it March yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
alnielsen 01-13-2010, 02:05 PM Here is a introduction of the new teams by Motorsports.com
USF1: http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=354764
Lotus F1: http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=354653
Virgin Racing: http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=354715
Campos Meta: http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=354837&FS=F1
alfy28 01-13-2010, 02:46 PM i wonder how hard ppl are going to push. i know they are putting in bigger tanks, but i thought e-stone was trying to make the sport more exciting. not sure how adding more weight, and drivers conserve fuel is helping his cause.
alnielsen 01-13-2010, 04:16 PM Bstone said they aren't going to supply tires next year. How hard do you think they are going to try?
alnielsen 01-18-2010, 11:44 AM Schumacher will be champion - Brawn
Ross Brawn has tipped Michael Schumacher to become this year's world champion on his return to Formula 1 action.
more @ http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80955
Is there any doubt who the #1 Driver will be on that team?
F1 rival Lewis Hamilton 'won't blow away Jenson Button'
Jenson Button will not be crushed by his McLaren team-mate Lewis Hamilton, according to the 2009 world champion's former Renault team-mate Jarno Trulli.
more @ http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8462244.stm
I know who we will hear from about this.
BlueRenesis82 01-18-2010, 12:00 PM Expect Hamilton to do a bunch of whining again this year. Now that he has a actual team-mate, he won't have the free ride that he had this year with Heikki.
Also, too bad for Nico. He would have been better off staying with Williams, or going somewhere else where he would have at least had a shot at winning races.
alfy28 01-18-2010, 12:10 PM Expect Hamilton to do a bunch of whining again this year. Now that he has a actual team-mate, he won't have the free ride that he had this year with Heikki.
Also, too bad for Nico. He would have been better off staying with Williams, or going somewhere else where he would have at least had a shot at winning races. im sorry, but what F1 have you been watching? i havent heard hamilton whine at all during the years he has been with F1.
I know i am hamiltons Number fan in the world, but even ill admit when hamilton is whining. and i cant say that i have ever seen him whine.
PerSmitt 01-18-2010, 01:01 PM Expect Hamilton to do a bunch of whining again this year. Now that he has a actual team-mate, he won't have the free ride that he had this year with Heikki.
Also, too bad for Nico. He would have been better off staying with Williams, or going somewhere else where he would have at least had a shot at winning races.
Ah the usual rubbish, eh? The only thing that actually was true in what you posted is the fact that Jenson probably is a better driver than Heikki.
If a driver (Hamilton) points out the car is not fast enough to win with it is not whining.
Nico is in a very good position. He has the chance to learn from a master and will come out of this a much better driver, if he takes the chance that is.
alfy28 01-18-2010, 01:11 PM Ah the usual rubbish, eh? The only thing that actually was true in what you posted is the fact that Jenson probably is a better driver than Heikki.
If a driver (Hamilton) points out the car is not fast enough to win with it is not whining.
Nico is in a very good position. He has the chance to learn from a master and will come out of this a much better driver, if he takes the chance that is.
very true persmitt. and when he does point it out, he doesnt put the blame on his team. he says " me and the team have to work on this car , to make it faster". unlike <cough cough> alonso lol
BlueRenesis82 01-18-2010, 10:20 PM im sorry, but what F1 have you been watching? i havent heard hamilton whine at all during the years he has been with F1.
2 words. Dave Ryan. "I just did what the team told me." Why not just come out and admit that you have no moral character?
Brian Major 01-18-2010, 10:23 PM i bet he whined when nicole scherzinger broke up with his ass.
alfy28 01-18-2010, 10:58 PM 2 words. Dave Ryan. "I just did what the team told me." Why not just come out and admit that you have no moral character?
Oh come on man. Do u honestly think hamilton came up with that whole idea on his own? I mean u don't even know if dave ryan told him to tell the truth.
I'm sorry, but man talk about a weak attempt to call somebody a whiner lol. Maybe if u msshopped hamilton crying, I would of gave u that.
But jokes aside blue, us silver knight will take u in our wings and teach u the way of our messiah
BlueRenesis82 01-18-2010, 11:22 PM Oh come on man. Do u honestly think hamilton came up with that whole idea on his own? I mean u don't even know if dave ryan told him to tell the truth.
I'm sorry, but man talk about a weak attempt to call somebody a whiner lol. Maybe if u msshopped hamilton crying, I would of gave u that.
But jokes aside blue, us silver knight will take u in our wings and teach u the way of our messiah
No I don't think he is smart enough to come up with this on his own. However, the lying to the stewards, he should be smart enough to not to do this, and then go on TV and cry about it.
alfy28 01-18-2010, 11:44 PM No I don't think he is smart enough to come up with this on his own. However, the lying to the stewards, he should be smart enough to not to do this, and then go on TV and cry about it.
Cry about it? For starters I didn't see any tears. What I saw was our team got caught tears. But what did u expect him to say on national tv? "Yah I done it bi!%tes, what u going to do abou it " we can sit here and joke around, but when it comes to team orders, its just team orders
. Happens all the time , he just got caught
BlueRenesis82 01-18-2010, 11:48 PM Yep, look at what happened to Piquet Jr when he just "followed team orders". Good battle plan!
alfy28 01-18-2010, 11:54 PM Yep, look at what happened to Piquet Jr when he just "followed team orders". Good battle plan!oh god , are u kidding me. Are u seriously comparing some guy who was willing to die, just so that he can keep racing, to some guy who lied to the stewards about his position?
alfy28 01-18-2010, 11:56 PM Yep, look at what happened to Piquet Jr when he just "followed team orders". Good battle plan!oh god , are u kidding me. Are u seriously comparing some guy who was willing to die, just so that he can keep racing, to some guy who lied to the stewards about his position?
What about the team orders from ferrari, pretty much telling massa to let kimi pass. So that kimmi can win the championship by one point
PerSmitt 01-19-2010, 05:12 AM Yep, look at what happened to Piquet Jr when he just "followed team orders". Good battle plan!
Its one thing to follow team orders to obfuscate the truth. Another to deliberately crash the car. From what was released from the interview with the race stewards Hamilton had gotten the instruction to obfuscate rather than tell an outright lie.
The morality of the situation can be discussed back and forth but at that point any person would be tempted to obfuscate, especially if told so by a senior manager. The situation would never have happened if Charlie had been able to answer McLarens questions whether or not Hamilton had passed Trulli legally.
But you are comparing the biggest scandal of the sport with something that happens all the time and making them equal. But then again, someone who is bent on finding something wrong is usually not too concerned about being level-headed or thought through about it.
alnielsen 01-19-2010, 09:55 AM http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6430/usf1logo.jpg
US F1 promises innovative car design
Team US F1 has promised an innovative approach for the design of its first Formula 1 car, as the Charlotte-based operation edges closer its first test with the 2010 challenger. more...
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80962
USF1 car to be called 'Type 1'
The news emerged after motor sport technology journal Racecar Engineering visited the Charlotte headquarters of the new American team. more...
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=355327:F1
USF1 Blog Update by Scott Bennett
Almost nobody knows it, but this team has come an unbelievably long way since it was first announced on Speed TV 11 months ago. I was at that press conference, and I was one of the first three or four people to start working on the design of the car shortly afterwards, all of us crowded with our computers around a wobbly conference table in a dreary, poorly configured former Nascar shop. I wish I had taken pictures. more...
http://www.usgpe.com/blog.html
alnielsen 01-19-2010, 09:57 AM How F1 could change the Olympics in 2012
The UK-based McLaren Group, which sponsors the likes of Jenson Button in Formula 1 racing, has created a wireless system that stores data and telemetry info for other athletes as well, including cyclists, rowers, and sailors. more...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-27083_3-10436727-247.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20
alfy28 01-20-2010, 01:15 AM Bmw sauber, I mean sauber has filled up the 2nd seat. Welcome pedroooo http://www.worldcarfans.com/110011924099/sauber-completes-2010-lineup-with-de-la-rosa
PerSmitt 01-21-2010, 08:19 AM Piquet said NO to F1 drive!
Nelson Piquet Jnr has said his move to NASCAR was caused by him being "sick and tired" of the row centring on the Crashgate scandal, although he added he had been offered a Formula One drive.
Last week he announced he was moving to the USA, and in an interview after testing in Florida he outlined the reasons behind his switch.
"I could've been [in F1] if I wanted to. A team offered me to be there. I just thought I was sick and tired of all of the stuff over there. I just took a decision of starting a new step in my career and a new challenge in coming to NASCAR.
"For a lot of people who are outside of America, it's a downgrade. But for people that really understand …maybe it's a downgrade in technology of the car, but in terms of career, of how big the sport is in a lot of ways it's even a tougher step than F1.
"The level of competition and the seriousness and the business of both series are very, very high. I was just sick and tired of things over there. I got a very, very good opportunity over here to start my career here and I'm here."
He also explained how the change being in NASCAR would bring to his way of life. "I had to balance a lot of things," he said. "I had to balance my happiness. I had to balance my opportunities. I had to balance a lot of things and I think the best thing that I came up with was the NASCAR route.
"I think the biggest factor is that I'm having a lot of people behind me helping me, wanting me to be here. A lot of people that I trust and I'm liking. So, all of that has been very good for me. I think that's what has played a big factor into the decision."
http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/7083.html
For a guy willing to crash his car and risk his life to stay in the series to suddenly drop out because he is sick of it? Something doesn't add up.
Lets face it no one wanted to touch him with a 10 foot pole.
bse50 01-21-2010, 08:24 AM It sounds strange, he would have made team names if this was true, or the team would have claimed this offer just to make his reputation respectable again...
alfy28 01-21-2010, 09:43 AM Piquet said NO to F1 drive!
Nelson Piquet Jnr has said his move to NASCAR was caused by him being "sick and tired" of the row centring on the Crashgate scandal, although he added he had been offered a Formula One drive.
Last week he announced he was moving to the USA, and in an interview after testing in Florida he outlined the reasons behind his switch.
"I could've been [in F1] if I wanted to. A team offered me to be there. I just thought I was sick and tired of all of the stuff over there. I just took a decision of starting a new step in my career and a new challenge in coming to NASCAR.
"For a lot of people who are outside of America, it's a downgrade. But for people that really understand …maybe it's a downgrade in technology of the car, but in terms of career, of how big the sport is in a lot of ways it's even a tougher step than F1.
"The level of competition and the seriousness and the business of both series are very, very high. I was just sick and tired of things over there. I got a very, very good opportunity over here to start my career here and I'm here."
He also explained how the change being in NASCAR would bring to his way of life. "I had to balance a lot of things," he said. "I had to balance my happiness. I had to balance my opportunities. I had to balance a lot of things and I think the best thing that I came up with was the NASCAR route.
"I think the biggest factor is that I'm having a lot of people behind me helping me, wanting me to be here. A lot of people that I trust and I'm liking. So, all of that has been very good for me. I think that's what has played a big factor into the decision."
http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/7083.html
For a guy willing to crash his car and risk his life to stay in the series to suddenly drop out because he is sick of it? Something doesn't add up.
Lets face it no one wanted to touch him with a 10 foot pole.
wouldnt it be funny, if nascar offered him so much money to crash on purpose lol. just to make the series exciting
alnielsen 01-21-2010, 09:46 AM If I remember correctly, there are only 3 seats left open. Campos has 1 and USF1 has 2 seats to fill yet.
alfy28 01-21-2010, 01:02 PM http://img.worldcarfans.com/2010/1/medium/50061496.jpg
alnielsen 01-21-2010, 04:51 PM Pit stops to take sub-3 seconds in 2010
F1 looks set to stage lightning-fast pit stops in 2010.
Williams spokeswoman Claire Williams revealed that the Grove based team was on Thursday practicing pit stops for the forthcoming season.
Refuelling has been banned for 2010, meaning that the only routine action to take place during pit stops this year will be the changing of tyres.
"The guys have made it into the sub-three second range to change a set of tyres!" she exclaimed.
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=355466:F1
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smy266 01-21-2010, 07:49 PM ^ I saw that Ferrari mock-up earlier today. I have to say I much rather like the older all red color. Oh it's going to be hard to choose who to root for... My favorite driver (LH) and second favorite team (Macca) or my favorite team (Ferrari). Most likely it will be for Lewis and Mclaren since I want to see Lewis beat MS and since I'm not an Alonso fan. This is going to be an exciting season. I can't wait.
PerSmitt 01-22-2010, 02:06 AM If I remember correctly, there are only 3 seats left open. Campos has 1 and USF1 has 2 seats to fill yet.
Renault only has Kubica I think. Heidfelt is running for the second Renault seat. Hilarious if they become teammates again in another team.
I can really see Kubica going: Hey dude, didn't I leave you over at Sauber's garage?
alnielsen 01-22-2010, 02:13 AM Renault only has Kubica I think. Heidfelt is running for the second Renault seat. Hilarious if they become teammates again in another team.
I can really see Kubica going: Hey dude, didn't I leave you over at Sauber's garage?
You are correct. Renault only has Kubica. Toro Rosso only has Buemi. That means there are 5 seats still open.
bse50 01-22-2010, 03:50 AM You are correct. Renault only has Kubica. Toro Rosso only has Buemi. That means there are 5 seats still open.
And March is coming soon...
Is there a lost in interest from the pilots or what? Maybe with the new teams etc there are too many cars but not enough drivers capable of driving them :p
alfy28 01-22-2010, 12:02 PM Its going to be an exciting year.
The Reverend 01-22-2010, 12:34 PM F1 noob question.
Why was refueling banned? I'm assuming it is because of the liabilities what with Kimi being caught on fire last year etc?
That's a little too bad IMO, fuel strategy was one of the few things keeping the races interesting...maybe they could focus more on researching refueling safety.
alfy28 01-22-2010, 12:49 PM F1 noob question.
Why was refueling banned? I'm assuming it is because of the liabilities what with Kimi being caught on fire last year etc?
That's a little too bad IMO, fuel strategy was one of the few things keeping the races interesting...maybe they could focus more on researching refueling safety.
my only guess would be, to develope ways to cut down on fuel consumptions on productions cars. but that even thta is a off the wall the guess. because they are adding a huger tank.
alfy28 01-22-2010, 01:00 PM Pit stops to take sub-3 seconds in 2010
F1 looks set to stage lightning-fast pit stops in 2010.
Williams spokeswoman Claire Williams revealed that the Grove based team was on Thursday practicing pit stops for the forthcoming season.
Refuelling has been banned for 2010, meaning that the only routine action to take place during pit stops this year will be the changing of tyres.
"The guys have made it into the sub-three second range to change a set of tyres!" she exclaimed.
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=355466:F1 its going to be very interesting. cars coming in out going to be bad arse, i think they will be some bumper car action going on in the pits.
PerSmitt 01-22-2010, 01:39 PM You are correct. Renault only has Kubica. Toro Rosso only has Buemi. That means there are 5 seats still open.
Toro Rosso has all but signed Alguisuari (spelling is wrong I know). It would be very surprising to see someone else in that seat.
PerSmitt 01-22-2010, 01:42 PM Toro Rosso has all but signed Alguisuari (spelling is wrong I know). It would be very surprising to see someone else in that seat.
And just after writing that I saw this:
Jaime Alguersuari has been officially confirmed as a Toro Rosso driver for the 2010 season.
19-year-old Alguersuari became the youngest driver to enter a grand prix last year when he took over from Sebastien Bourdais in July. He will continue to partner Sebastien Buemi, who was announced as a driver in November, meaning the team will start the new season with an unchanged driver line up.
"Considering that he made his debut only halfway through 2009, at the Hungarian Grand Prix, with no prior testing, he did a good job," said team principal Franz Tost. "He made steady progress throughout the second half of the year, with a mature approach considering he is still only 19-years-old.
"This season, he will again face a steep learning curve, as all the circuits in the first part of the season will be new to him. Jaime's appointment also confirms our team's commitment to bringing on graduates of the Red Bull Young Driver Programme."
The news puts an end to speculation about Bruno Senna joining the team if Campos doesn't make the grid. Alguersuari's appointment also means there are just four seats left open in 2010; two at US F1, one at Renault and one at Campos.
http://en.espnf1.com/tororosso/motorsport/story/7206.html
PerSmitt 01-22-2010, 01:46 PM F1 noob question.
Why was refueling banned? I'm assuming it is because of the liabilities what with Kimi being caught on fire last year etc?
That's a little too bad IMO, fuel strategy was one of the few things keeping the races interesting...maybe they could focus more on researching refueling safety.
Mainly it is a cost issue. The dual fuel-rigs for each spot in the pit lane costs money. It is yet another attempt to make F1 a little bit less expensive.
That said, I am actually kind of sad to see the refueling go. It was a lot of tactics in the qualifier and playing on the start weight. Now this year we will know that whoever qualifies first is really fastest since all have fuel for the entire race.
On the other hand, pit stops can be quite exciting if a mechanic fumble. Taking 6 seconds to change a wheel was OK as long as it took 10 seconds to fuel the car. However, if the others pit in 3 seconds you can get passed by 2 cars just by one small fumble.
We will see if its more exciting or not. I for one am really hyped up for the coming season.
alnielsen 01-22-2010, 03:32 PM F1 noob question.
Why was refueling banned? I'm assuming it is because of the liabilities what with Kimi being caught on fire last year etc?
That's a little too bad IMO, fuel strategy was one of the few things keeping the races interesting...maybe they could focus more on researching refueling safety.
my only guess would be, to develope ways to cut down on fuel consumptions on productions cars. but that even thta is a off the wall the guess. because they are adding a huger tank.
I think it's due to the Fuel/Pit Lane fires. Even after refinements to the fueling rigs, they still had problems this past year.
alnielsen 01-22-2010, 03:47 PM You are correct. Renault only has Kubica. Toro Rosso only has Buemi. That means there are 5 seats still open.
Alguersuari has been confirmed for Toro Rosso. 4 open seats left.
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=355529:F1
alnielsen 01-23-2010, 01:30 AM Pit stops to take sub-3 seconds in 2010
F1 looks set to stage lightning-fast pit stops in 2010.
Williams spokeswoman Claire Williams revealed that the Grove based team was on Thursday practicing pit stops for the forthcoming season.
Refuelling has been banned for 2010, meaning that the only routine action to take place during pit stops this year will be the changing of tyres.
"The guys have made it into the sub-three second range to change a set of tyres!" she exclaimed.
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=355466:F1
I'm watching a DTM race at the moment. Wheel change pit stops are 3.3 - 3.4 seconds. I don't see how they can get any faster.
alnielsen 01-24-2010, 12:35 AM McLaren launch live on team site
The Vodafone McLaren Mercedes F1 Team will launch their 2010 contender, the MP4-25, at the Vodafone UK headquarters in Newburry. The launch event, which will take place on Friday 29 January, will start at 11 am, local time, and will be streamed live on www.mclaren.com (http://www.mclaren.com/).
http://www.f1technical.net/news/14037?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+F1technicalnetFormulaOneNews+ %28F1technical.net+.+Formula+One+news%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher
USF1 to confirm Lopez on Monday
USF1 will announce on Monday that it has signed Argentine driver Jose Maria Lopez for 2010.
The American team reached a deal with the 26-year-old touring car driver late last year, dependant on the finalisation of his sponsorship package believed to be worth around $8m.
"Everything has been agreed and the official announcement will be made on Monday," the former GP2 racer's spokesman Miguel Mattos told Reuters.
The news agency said USF1 sporting director Peter Windsor has been meeting with Lopez's sponsors in Buenos Aires in the past days.
It is believed the country's government will advertise Argentinian tourism on the USF1 car, and that the Top Race V6 series and the company Kwan will also sponsor the Charlotte based team.
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=355551:F1
PerSmitt 01-25-2010, 09:22 AM So now before we know anything from the tests lets have a guessing game. I want you all to vote on two things:
1. Which car will be the fastest car overall the first race weekend? (This could be limited to fastest during race-day too if the weather is consistant)
2. Who will win the first race? (It is likely that the driver will be driving the above car)
So we all guess wildly now, then when the pre-season tests have gone on for a while (up till actual race weekend) we can vote again and revise our opinion based on the testing results.
And finally after the race weekend we can look and see how wrong we were. If people want to add more than one car or more than one driver it is permitted but there must be internal ranking.
Also if people want to place bets on the in-team battles now is the time to do so. What are your expectations guys?
PerSmitt 01-25-2010, 09:24 AM My vote falls easily to McLaren being fastest and Hamilton winning the first race.
Another vote I would like to make is that Massa will actually drive faster than Alonso.
Oh and Schumi will beat the crappitycrap out of Rosberg.
alfy28 01-25-2010, 10:31 AM man i wish the season would kick off right now. my post counts are not going any where.
alnielsen 01-25-2010, 11:32 AM I agree McLaren /Hamilton
Mercedes/Schumacher will be the fastest in the speed trap.
man i wish the season would kick off right now. my post counts are not going any where.
Less than two months to go. :fingersx:
PerSmitt 01-25-2010, 12:21 PM man i wish the season would kick off right now. my post counts are not going any where.
Less whining and more voting my friend ;)
alnielsen 01-25-2010, 11:15 PM Post #1 has been updated with recent driver additions.
alfy28 01-26-2010, 12:19 AM Less whining and more voting my friend ;) i say we vote you off :)
Post #1 has been updated with recent driver additions.
I am confused here. Umm why is hamilton listed 2nd? shouldnt he be number 1 on the list. I think you need to fix your mistake pronto.
alnielsen 01-26-2010, 12:24 AM I am confused here. Umm why is hamilton listed 2nd? shouldnt he be number 1 on the list. I think you need to fix your mistake pronto. The list is posted by car number. As last years champion Jenson Button is in car #1 (because Lewis failed to perform). Hammy is in car #2 (maybe he should have a #5). He maybe #1 in your heart, but not in the FIA's.
alfy28 01-26-2010, 09:52 AM The list is posted by car number. As last years champion Jenson Button is in car #1 (because Lewis failed to perform). Hammy is in car #2 (maybe he should have a #5). He maybe #1 in your heart, but not in the FIA's. I laughed so hard reading ur comment, that I couldn't think of a comeback
ATL-GP 01-26-2010, 04:18 PM I'm going to go out on a limb...Vettle for the fastes lap
and ....I hate to say it Alfy, but Button for the win!
and OH...you'll love this...Nico is going to SMOKE Schumacher...for the first race...after that, Nico is going to be beaten like a blond block-headed step child
Finally, Massa is going to beat Alonso...but not by much!
alfy28 01-26-2010, 05:14 PM http://img.worldcarfans.com/2010/1/large/1420712.jpg
NICO looks like some manican
http://img.worldcarfans.com/2010/1/large/5303523.jpg
http://img.worldcarfans.com/2010/1/large/7668952.jpg
http://img.worldcarfans.com/2010/1/large/2118862.jpg
alfy28 01-26-2010, 05:47 PM I'm going to go out on a limb...Vettle for the fastes lap
and ....I hate to say it Alfy, but Button for the win!
and OH...you'll love this...Nico is going to SMOKE Schumacher...for the first race...after that, Nico is going to be beaten like a blond block-headed step child
Finally, Massa is going to beat Alonso...but not by much!
Hey if you want to ruin your rep here at the boards, its fine by me. :yelrotflm
alnielsen 01-26-2010, 10:26 PM NICO looks like some manicanIt does look like they just took him out of a wax museum.
PerSmitt 01-27-2010, 04:38 AM I'm going to go out on a limb...Vettle for the fastes lap
and ....I hate to say it Alfy, but Button for the win!
and OH...you'll love this...Nico is going to SMOKE Schumacher...for the first race...after that, Nico is going to be beaten like a blond block-headed step child
Finally, Massa is going to beat Alonso...but not by much!
Vettel is fast I give you that. He is the only young driver who I consider a match for Hamilton. The other new drivers just don't seem as fast.
The big question is: Will the Red Bull be fast enough to be a title contender this year again? Without that I doubt Vettel can put the fastest laptimes. Especially with a Renault engine. The Mercedes and Ferrari engines are both considered faster than the Renault, and the Mercedes being the best one due to better fuel economy than the Ferrari.
ATL-GP 01-27-2010, 08:15 AM Hey if you want to ruin your rep here at the boards, its fine by me. :yelrotflm
:lach::boid:
..but no really, I think Newey will put together a hell of a car this year. And true, the Renault is not the best engine out there, BUT, and correct me if i'm wrong, I thought it was the smallest and lightest. So in combination with a real tight package, I think they will struggle in high downforce trim, but Bahrain is not a high downforce track...and with those massive straights, I think the Red Bull will haul ass. Further, without KERS factor, I think the RB will be competitive. Pure speculation...but that's my hunch.
...and as far as Button vs. Hamilton, I just really think JB will be out to prove a point and ATTEMPT to establish himself as the clear No. 1. I think Hamilton had it a little bit easy last year against Heiki, further, it's been a while since Hamilton's team mate has seriously pushed him...so I think this is going to be something Hamilton is going to have to adjust to.
:hahano: Yeah, looks like you could just stick your hand in Nico's back, put him on your lap and make him start telling dirty jokes
PerSmitt 01-27-2010, 09:16 AM :lach::boid:
..but no really, I think Newey will put together a hell of a car this year. And true, the Renault is not the best engine out there, BUT, and correct me if i'm wrong, I thought it was the smallest and lightest. So in combination with a real tight package, I think they will struggle in high downforce trim, but Bahrain is not a high downforce track...and with those massive straights, I think the Red Bull will haul ass. Further, without KERS factor, I think the RB will be competitive. Pure speculation...but that's my hunch.
...and as far as Button vs. Hamilton, I just really think JB will be out to prove a point and ATTEMPT to establish himself as the clear No. 1. I think Hamilton had it a little bit easy last year against Heiki, further, it's been a while since Hamilton's team mate has seriously pushed him...so I think this is going to be something Hamilton is going to have to adjust to.
:hahano: Yeah, looks like you could just stick your hand in Nico's back, put him on your lap and make him start telling dirty jokes
Those massive straights are the reason I think the McLaren and Mercedes will kick butt. Even without KERS they have the best engine. Yes Renault's engine might be lighter, but if it consumes more fuel the weight of the fuel for the entire race distance will more than make up for it.
We will see if the RB will be competitive. Personally I hope so, but I think the McLaren and the Mercedes and even the red toy-car might take bigger steps forward.
Button will certainly be a bigger challenge for Hamilton than Kovaleinen. On that I totally agree with you. And that he will try to beat Hamilton, oh definitely.
alnielsen 01-27-2010, 09:31 AM Bahrain's track revamped for Formula 1 season opener
The track, which stretches into the Sakhir desert, has been lengthened from 5.4 km (3.4 miles) to 6.3 km and features a new loop of corners.
Organisers said the changes would offer a new experience to drivers.
"It is the perfect time to evolve the circuit with this new challenge and new overtaking opportunities," said Zayed Alzayani, chairman of the circuit.
more......
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8479689.stm
alfy28 01-27-2010, 12:30 PM :lach::boid:
...and as far as Button vs. Hamilton, I just really think JB will be out to prove a point and ATTEMPT to establish himself as the clear No. 1. I think Hamilton had it a little bit easy last year against Heiki, further, it's been a while since Hamilton's team mate has seriously pushed him...so I think this is going to be something Hamilton is going to have to adjust to.
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1. i am not sure about button. yah he has a challenge, but button is racing 22 otehr drivers. And we seen how kobayashi made button look like he was a GP2 driver.
2. And i dont think hamilton had it easy at all. he had to carry his team, because heiki just couldnt seem to be a team mate at the front of pack. Even though Hamilton had a team mate, who was not on par with him. Hamilton had 22 other drivers to deal with.
But I do love the optimism views you have. Even though your rep is on the line now :mdrmed:, Its fans like you, that makes this thread funny. Because with out your out landish ideas, I wouldnt be able to crack jokes about them.
but jokes aside, i do respect your views. but having a team mate that helps blocking etc helps alot. hamilton havent had that, ever since he joined f1.
ATL-GP 01-27-2010, 02:42 PM :rofl: Ohhhh you smart ass...you just wait till March. And as for Kobayashi...well we'll have to see how he works out. Yes, he put in some OUTSTANDING drives...but then again he had too, and really had nothing to loose. If any one of us on this site had 1 shot to make it to the big leages, well I'm sure we would all be driving our balls off and taking risks that we wouldn't take if we were already locked in solid for the year. Further, Kobayashi did put a move on JB that freaking BLEACH couldn't remove...BUT, lets see him try that shit on Schumacher, Webber, Kubica....shall I go on. Kobayashi could have gone from a hero to a ZERO in a heartbeat. And Alfy my brother....my rep has been questionable from day one :crazy::shocking::40oz:
ATL-GP 01-27-2010, 02:54 PM Yeah, I think the tire wear is going to be pretty significant, especially with the fronts being narrower. One thing though, without the refueling...the pit stops are going to be CRAZY FAST....I bet they'll be in the 4 sec range or so. That's going to be awesome!!! Shit man...is it March yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So what...i'm about 1.010 off....but who called it first??? :icon16:
Pololo_RX8 01-27-2010, 03:19 PM We will see if the RB will be competitive. Personally I hope so, but I think the McLaren and the Mercedes and even the red toy-car might take bigger steps forward.
How could you!!! You'll be sorry for this statement. Both Alonso and Massa will beat the heck out of everyone else. There is no doubt about that... 2 Latin drivers in a Red Ferrari??? Lethal my friend... Lethal... kinda like Beyonce in a Babydoll...:boink:
Schumacher will surprise many and finally Hamiltom will face a REAL driver in a good car. Bye Bye Hamilton... You will never be champion again... heck even that championship was "handed" to him... we all know that, even Alfy who is always on denial...
Carlos
alnielsen 01-27-2010, 03:24 PM :rofl: Ohhhh you smart ass...you just wait till March. And as for Kobayashi...well we'll have to see how he works out. Yes, he put in some OUTSTANDING drives...but then again he had too, and really had nothing to loose. If any one of us on this site had 1 shot to make it to the big leages, well I'm sure we would all be driving our balls off and taking risks that we wouldn't take if we were already locked in solid for the year. Further, Kobayashi did put a move on JB that freaking BLEACH couldn't remove...BUT, lets see him try that shit on Schumacher, Webber, Kubica....shall I go on. Kobayashi could have gone from a hero to a ZERO in a heartbeat. And Alfy my brother....my rep has been questionable from day one :crazy::shocking::40oz:Correct, the only think I can add is JB had everything to loose. Namely the championship. If he tried to fight for that position with an unknown, he could have easily crashed out. RB would be champion today.
alfy28 01-27-2010, 05:30 PM I so hope that , MS pits in the ferrari dept. would make my day.
alnielsen 01-27-2010, 05:34 PM By All, I'm leaving for the Daytona 24hr. See you in a week.
PerSmitt 01-28-2010, 01:25 AM How could you!!! You'll be sorry for this statement. Both Alonso and Massa will beat the heck out of everyone else. There is no doubt about that... 2 Latin drivers in a Red Ferrari??? Lethal my friend... Lethal... kinda like Beyonce in a Babydoll...:boink:
Schumacher will surprise many and finally Hamiltom will face a REAL driver in a good car. Bye Bye Hamilton... You will never be champion again... heck even that championship was "handed" to him... we all know that, even Alfy who is always on denial...
Carlos
Damn Polo, I have missed you!
I was about to write a message asking if people knew where Polo was. Welcome back friend, and with this the debate can start in earnest.
As for two latin drivers in the red car. Its going to be passionate racing that is for certain. Too bad races are won with a cool head :lol:
Bring it onto the track!
PerSmitt 01-28-2010, 01:31 AM Schumacher will surprise many and finally Hamiltom will face a REAL driver in a good car. Bye Bye Hamilton... You will never be champion again... heck even that championship was "handed" to him... we all know that, even Alfy who is always on denial...
Carlos
1. Hamilton has never faced a real driver in a good car
2. The 2007 McLaren was good
Conclusion: Alonso is not a real driver!
And I who thought you weren't going to come out of your closet and admit it ;)
Oh and by the way, you have no idea how much money we silver knights had to pool to pay off Timo Glock to let Hamilton pass in that turn, it was insane!
bse50 01-28-2010, 03:45 AM How could you!!! You'll be sorry for this statement. Both Alonso and Massa will beat the heck out of everyone else. There is no doubt about that... 2 Latin drivers in a Red Ferrari??? Lethal my friend... Lethal... kinda like Beyonce in a Babydoll...:boink:
Schumacher will surprise many and finally Hamiltom will face a REAL driver in a good car. Bye Bye Hamilton... You will never be champion again... heck even that championship was "handed" to him... we all know that, even Alfy who is always on denial...
Carlos
What happens if our 2 beloved latin drivers do what the other latin (barrichello) does best: 2nd? :)
I mean... barrichello could finish 2nd against a formula full of his clones, in that case the podium would go to the safety car!
PerSmitt 01-28-2010, 05:01 AM You know, very few drivers have managed to outrun the safety car. As a matter of fact, he is in the lead every single lap he drives. Not all drivers have such good statistics :)
So don't dis the safety-car ;) Its kick ass!
ATL-GP 01-28-2010, 07:30 AM You know, very few drivers have managed to outrun the safety car. As a matter of fact, he is in the lead every single lap he drives. Not all drivers have such good statistics :)
So don't dis the safety-car ;) Its kick ass!
VERY TRUE....no one's out run it...but Heidfield sure did hit the crap out of it :yelrotflm
ATL-GP 01-28-2010, 07:32 AM 1. Hamilton has never faced a real driver in a good car
2. The 2007 McLaren was good
Conclusion: Alonso is not a real driver!
And I who thought you weren't going to come out of your closet and admit it ;)
Oh and by the way, you have no idea how much money we silver knights had to pool to pay off Timo Glock to let Hamilton pass in that turn, it was insane!
....I was wondering who would be the first to make that connection :lach:
bse50 01-28-2010, 08:01 AM Official ferrari introduction for 2010:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptG62Xx-U5w
Hope the embed works, i've never been lucky with it here.
Pololo_RX8 01-28-2010, 01:44 PM 1. Hamilton has never faced a real driver in a good car
2. The 2007 McLaren was good
Conclusion: Alonso is not a real driver!
And I who thought you weren't going to come out of your closet and admit it ;)
Oh and by the way, you have no idea how much money we silver knights had to pool to pay off Timo Glock to let Hamilton pass in that turn, it was insane!
I hear you and I know you were going to say this. :) :) I admit that Hamilton was better than Alonso, but who wouldn't if Hamilton had the best car and was RD's adopted son? :) :)
I can't wait for the season to begin! :) It'll be awesome and I can't believe I am saying this but I can't wait to see Schumacher in the "silver bullet". :)
I give a "squat" about Mclaren... as usual, Hamilton will have everything he needs to win but I could care less.
And it'll be interesting to see RBR team. :) I hope those renault engines hold up.
Carlos.
ps. I have missed you guys as well... :) :) Awesome to be back.
alfy28 01-28-2010, 05:30 PM this car looks so ghey. polo you like ghey looking cars
http://img.worldcarfans.com/2010/1/large/5236910.jpg
alfy28 01-28-2010, 05:33 PM even though this car is sooooo GHEY. I do like this picture
http://img.worldcarfans.com/2010/1/large/6498890.jpg
mike1324a 01-28-2010, 09:19 PM The front view is good. However overall it is eehh. It is too long looking and the nose is an uglier version of the Red Bull. I do like seeing white on the wings again.
alfy28 01-28-2010, 09:50 PM By All, I'm leaving for the Daytona 24hr. See you in a week.have fun man
mike1324a 01-28-2010, 10:51 PM The williams fw32 was shaken down in a private photoshoot today also. Autosport got a picture.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81104
mike1324a 01-29-2010, 11:27 AM Ive always hated those aweful sharkfins on the airbox. Look how huge they are now! The car looks rediculous. It makes the ugly ferrari look good...
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/mp4-25_studio-2.jpg
mike1324a 01-29-2010, 11:28 AM http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/mp4_25_4.jpg
mike1324a 01-29-2010, 11:29 AM http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/mp4-25_studio-1.jpg
alfy28 01-29-2010, 02:24 PM http://img.worldcarfans.com/2010/1/large/9320956.jpg
alfy28 01-29-2010, 02:34 PM i bring you good news, if you are not a ferrari fan. i hope this rumor is true. :ylsuper:
Ferrari may already be working on a 'B' version of its newly launched F10 car.
Britain's Times newspaper referred to rumours "sweeping the Italian media" about the early performance estimates for the new single seater.
The report said it is feared the car is "not as good as the team were hoping for", despite Ferrari having stopped developing the F60 mid last season in order to focus on its successor.
Former Ferrari driver Gerhard Berger told Switzerland's Blick newspaper: "Even with Alonso, Ferrari's overall package is not as strong as it once was with Schumacher.
"They are now missing (Jean) Todt, (Ross) Brawn and the often underestimated designer (Rory) Byrne. And without the right people, soon you are lost," the Austrian added.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/110012924290/rumour--ferrari-working-on-b-version-of-new-f10
mike1324a 01-29-2010, 06:43 PM These rumors always have to be taken with a grain of salt. I remember last year, before testing, the farrari was said that it was gonna be totally dominant. Obviously not true. Besides, the ferrari that shows up in bahrain will most likely be fairly different anyway, just as it always is.
alfy28 01-29-2010, 07:18 PM Oh I know notn to believe. I just like annoying pole and bse
bse50 01-29-2010, 07:34 PM Oh I know notn to believe. I just like annoying pole and bse
Rofl, you should also do more photochops!
Mazmart 01-29-2010, 07:41 PM I think the McLaren looks like pure 'flow'. This is going to be good. :evil_laug
Paul.
bse50 01-29-2010, 07:47 PM I think the McLaren looks like pure 'flow'. This is going to be good. :evil_laug
Paul.
Oh gawd, are ye an enemy too?
stand up proud here i must!
Anyway Ferrari already complained about rule flaws that may bring another "rear diffuser scandal".
They said that those rules are too vague during a conference and that this may lead to too many different interpretations.
While I do agree that rules should be clear and not open to interpretations i think that this may link to well to what alfy reported regarding a "b" version already in the works :(
mike1324a 01-30-2010, 12:02 PM Spy video of the new Williams FW32
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rbtzx8ZGJg4&feature=player_embedded
mike1324a 01-30-2010, 12:24 PM Ferrari thinks double diffuser saga could re-fire
Jan.30 (GMM) Ferrari is concerned the double diffuser legality controversy in formula one may be set to re-fire.
At the launch of the F10 on Thursday, technical director Aldo Costa said he thought at least one team was "on the limit" of legality with its 2010 design of the rear aerodynamic solution.
The initial emergence of double diffusers on the Brawn, Williams and Toyota cars last year caused great controversy, until the FIA said their rule interpretation was in fact legal.
"We were put in a very unpleasant position last year and we still think that the double diffuser is illegal," Costa told La Gazzetta dello Sport. "Maybe the saga will just carry on."
Ferrari's chief designer Nikolas Tombazis admitted: "The double diffuser allows a lot of room for experimentation and this is what worries us."
By the time of the McLaren launch on Friday, rumours were circulating that 2010 cars would be debuting 'triple' and 'quadruple' diffusers.
"We've got a fairly extreme incarnation (of double diffuser), but we won't be alone in that -- we believe we will see some pretty extreme solutions from our competitors as well," McLaren's engineering director Paddy Lowe said.
On the launch stage, the rear of McLaren's MP4-25 was tucked into a corner, and the diffuser itself was apparently covered.
All three 2010 cars seen so far - the Ferrari, McLaren and Williams - feature very high noses, to allow maximum airflow to much bigger diffusers.
Lowe denied Ferrari's fears that the diffuser rules are still unclear.
"We think the interpretation is very clear," he said. "In certain aspects we have sought guidance from the FIA and they have come out with very clear interpretation, understanding and guidance -- and we think that has been made available to all the teams.
"We are hoping for a much cleaner start to the season then we had a year ago in terms of the teams' collective understanding of the basis from which we go racing," Lowe added.
alfy28 02-01-2010, 12:29 AM f6Xo7whWpcY&feature
alfy28 02-01-2010, 12:40 AM http://img.worldcarfans.com/2010/1/medium/4026516.jpg
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alfy28 02-01-2010, 12:41 AM http://img.worldcarfans.com/2010/1/medium/4026516.jpg
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alfy28 02-01-2010, 10:33 AM http://img.worldcarfans.com/2010/1/large/5437297.jpg
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mike1324a 02-01-2010, 02:54 PM http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/merc_w01_2010_vale.jpg
mike1324a 02-01-2010, 03:17 PM I cant wait to see the diffusers! All the teams but Mclaren and Renault appear to be running the diffuser of their 09 car or an interim model. This is to keep those radical designs a secret surely. If the Mclaren and Renault are the an indication as to the diffusers this year, then i cant wait to see the Mercedes and Adrian Newey designs. The Renault diffuser is huge and the Mclaren has the diffuser from Hell!
http://twitpic.com/10u74q
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/749/dddyxw.jpg
Clearer Pic here: http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7495&start=630
alfy28 02-01-2010, 04:47 PM http://img.worldcarfans.com/2010/2/large/7210054.jpg
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alfy28 02-01-2010, 04:48 PM http://img.worldcarfans.com/2010/2/large/6489663.jpg
bse50 02-01-2010, 05:15 PM Massa did the best time during the Valencia tests, Schumi is 3rd.
alfy28 02-01-2010, 06:46 PM and hamilton was +++1?
PerSmitt 02-02-2010, 02:09 AM and hamilton was +++1?
Gary Paffet is handling the McLaren shakedown. He was fifth.
Although Hamilton is usually a couple of tenths to a second faster than their test driver so I believe the McLaren will be up among the top 3 as soon as the regular drivers start testing.
Pololo_RX8 02-02-2010, 11:34 AM I AM A HAPPY MAN NOW! :) :) and I am sure I will be even HAPPIER after Wednesday's testing.
Move over Mclaren, the Japanese ROOKIE beat that guy named Hamilton and there is no way Button will be better. :)
Ferrari is BACK ladies.. and no crying allowed here. :)
Carlos
bse50 02-02-2010, 11:38 AM Todays tests (Valencia):
1. Massa – Ferrari: 1:11.722
2. Kobayashi – Sauber: 1:12.056
3. Hamilton – McLaren: 1:12.256
4. Kubica – Renault: 1:12.426
5. Rosberg – Mercedes: 1:12.899
6. Barichello – Williams: 1:13.377
7. Buemi – Toro Rosso: 1:13.823
The first 4 are pretty close :)
BlueRenesis82 02-02-2010, 11:54 AM Testing doesn't mean anything.
alfy28 02-02-2010, 12:04 PM I AM A HAPPY MAN NOW! :) :) and I am sure I will be even HAPPIER after Wednesday's testing.
Move over Mclaren, the Japanese ROOKIE beat that guy named Hamilton and there is no way Button will be better. :)
Ferrari is BACK ladies.. and no crying allowed here. :)
Carlos
Typical ferrari fans, always assuming. I firgured you learned your lesson by now. I guess you quickly forgot about 2008 championship race. let me refresh your memory.
Last few seconds of the race, Ferrari fans were going crazy. Until......,...
HAMILTON stole the show.
BUt yah, guess its just their nature.
alfy28 02-02-2010, 12:08 PM 2008 fixed
Pololo_RX8 02-02-2010, 12:09 PM Typical ferrari fans, always assuming. I firgured you learned your lesson by now. I guess you quickly forgot about 2009 championship race. let me refresh your memory.
Last few seconds of the race, Ferrari fans were going crazy. Until......,...
HAMILTON stole the show.
BUt yah, guess its just their nature.
If Kobayashi would have beat Massa, all the Hamilton "fanboys" (and there are many here) you all will be... Ferrari was beat by a Sauber!!!
Testing has invaluble meaning but granted, nothing matters until the first race. However, I love seeing the Hamilton fanboys taking a backseat now.
Of course I remember but I also remember 2008 when Timo let Hamilton pass, so he could win the championship? WE ALL REMEMBER THAT!!!
Carlos
alfy28 02-02-2010, 12:18 PM If Kobayashi would have beat Massa, all the Hamilton "fanboys" (and there are many here) you all will be... Ferrari was beat by a Sauber!!!
Testing has invaluble meaning but granted, nothing matters until the first race. However, I love seeing the Hamilton fanboys taking a backseat now.
Of course I remember but I also remember 2008 when Timo let Hamilton pass, so he could win the championship? WE ALL REMEMBER THAT!!!
Carlos
LOL . I have a quick question, where is your golden boy Alonso at? He must be putting on his make up.
bse50 02-02-2010, 12:18 PM Testing helps seeing if there are big gaps between the teams. It's a whole new car so it really means a lot. To know how a car goes you need to push it!
What if a car is consistently 1 second slower? No refuelling this year!
They do mean a lot but what we all need to consider is that just a little part of the circus tested the cars there.
Anyway, as a Ferrari fan, i didn't say much about Hamilton being a bit slower than Kobayashi... They are all there in the end. I would have been surprised to see a 1 sec. gap between the two! What's surprising is to see kobayashi there altogether.
Kubica is pretty fast as well, hope he does well this season.
PerSmitt 02-02-2010, 02:27 PM I AM A HAPPY MAN NOW! :) :) and I am sure I will be even HAPPIER after Wednesday's testing.
Move over Mclaren, the Japanese ROOKIE beat that guy named Hamilton and there is no way Button will be better. :)
Ferrari is BACK ladies.. and no crying allowed here. :)
Carlos
I bet Ferrari are running with no fuel at all just to give Massa some self confidence back. In reality the Ferrari is the slowest of all the cars. Trust me, I know ;)
alfy28 02-02-2010, 02:36 PM With tongue planted firmly in cheek but with approaching two decades of experience behind him, Rubens Barrichello knew his comment would make headlines.
Asked by reporters at Valencia if he had any advise for Nico Rosberg, the Brazilian smiled: "Yeah. Get out of there. That is the only thing I can tell him."
Barrichello, 37, spent six seasons as Michael Schumacher's subordinate teammate at Ferrari, and sympathises with young German Rosberg, who will drive the sister Mercedes W01 in 2010.
"I am not being bad (negative) about it," the veteran of a record 288 grands prix said on Monday, after testing the new Williams FW32 at the same Spanish circuit as Schumacher and Rosberg.
"Knowing what I know, and seeing how fast Michael went today, it is going to be a tough job (for Rosberg). I wish him all the best because I think he is a talented boy who can be world champion," Barrichello added.
Despite debuting in Schumacher's last season in 2006, Rosberg, 24, was quoted by Germany's Auto Motor und Sport at being taken aback by the media on Monday.
"In the morning at the launch, 100 cameras were on Michael and only one on me," said the former Williams driver.
"I will get used to it and I understand it, and I am a racing driver. How many cameras there are for me is not important," added Rosberg
http://www.worldcarfans.com/110020224359/barrichellos-advice-to-rosberg-get-out-of-there
bse50 02-02-2010, 03:46 PM The problem is that M. Schumacher was faster than him with less laps.
I think that Schumi is going to be a fast lap guy this year while not being able to keep his perfection for the whole race. He doesn't even have the refuelling to pause!
alfy28 02-02-2010, 05:20 PM MS has alot on his plate. I would hate to be a driver, who was last known as the best driver by die hard ferrari fans, to do poorly.
i dont think he will do poorly, but just saying. A part of me is rooting for the guy, but 90% of me wants to see him get owned by hamilton. so i can just talk crap to MS fans :)
Pololo_RX8 02-02-2010, 05:55 PM i dont think he will do poorly, but just saying. A part of me is rooting for the guy, but 90% of me wants to see him get owned by hamilton. so i can just talk crap to MS fans :)[/
I will make sure I reference this in the future and make you eat your own words.:) :) No way Hamilton will own MS.. no way... This "old guy" still has a few tricks left. Heck becoming a World Champion (Alonso) when MS was still racing hard is an achievement that it will not be repeated. Hamilton, nor Button have what it takes to becoming World Champions when MS is racing on the car next to them.
Can't wait to see Alonso getting his make up done prior showing the rest of the world what he is capable of in a Ferrari. :)
Carlos
alfy28 02-02-2010, 08:47 PM I will make sure I reference this in the future and so that you can own me with your own words.:) :) Hell yah, Hamilton will own MS.. no way... This "old guy" has any tricks left. Heck becoming a World Loser (Alonso) when MS was still racing hard is an achievement that it will not be repeated. Hamilton Yes ,but Button does'nt have what it takes to becoming World Champions when MS is racing on the car next to them.
Can't wait to see Alonso get his arse handed to him, in a less capable car called Ferrari. :)Carlos
I agree with every word you just said polo. i dont understand, why we havent joined forces yet :rofl:
Pololo_RX8 02-02-2010, 09:01 PM I agree with every word you just said polo. i dont understand, why we havent joined forces yet :rofl:
May the FORCE be with you. :cwm27:
This is getting better... I guess we are almost there... Can't wait for F1 to start.. This silly "running in circles" aka as Nascar doesn't do it for me.
I guess I will have to subscribe to LameRacingVision (I mean NascarVision...no no I mean SpeedVision again!! argh!!! :( )
Carlos
alfy28 02-02-2010, 09:05 PM May the FORCE be with you. :cwm27:
This is getting better... I guess we are almost there... Can't wait for F1 to start.. This silly "running in circles" aka as Nascar doesn't do it for me.
I guess I will have to subscribe to LameRacingVision (I mean NascarVision...no no I mean SpeedVision again!! argh!!! :( )
Carlos
yah i havent been watching any races. this year, i decided i just stick to F1. so no lemans, or rolex gt for me this year.
cant wait for us to fire our missles at each other :). come on march
Renesis_8 02-03-2010, 12:47 AM I can't wait for F1 season to start, the new cars, the new regulations, no refuel, are all very exciting things for me to look forward to.
Right now I am very eagerly waiting for Red Bull to pull the covers off their new car, however these cars we're seeing now are just interim cars. so we'll have to wait until Bahrain to see where everyone is.
Also, I want to see USF1 make the grid, then get spanked so hard they'll disappear after a few races =)
Hmmm as for the missiles firing thing, I haven't picked which side I'm on yet!! I havne't really picked a team I root for.
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PerSmitt 02-03-2010, 01:47 AM Btw, Polo, it doesn't matter how fast the Ferrari is because they break down with technical failures anyways.
Or they put in too little fuel so Massa will have to roll the last lap on fumes.
Ah the antics of Ferrari. Driving with passion and making mistakes :)
bse50 02-03-2010, 03:52 AM Btw, Polo, it doesn't matter how fast the Ferrari is because they break down with technical failures anyways.
Or they put in too little fuel so Massa will have to roll the last lap on fumes.
Ah the antics of Ferrari. Driving with passion and making mistakes :)
Little unknown fact: the 360 modena had a multi-piece crankshaft... that's where many of the reliability problems started.
Lesson learned? no, the first 430 had a very similar design, only later they switched for a single piece one! No wonder why their f1 cars are so unreliable :p
Going back to Schumacher:
I'm sure that he'll make Hamilton nervous IF they are capable of doing similar lap times. Hamilton is a very good driver when everything is alright but is prone to doing mistakes when being tailgated\challenged... Schumacher is the exact opposite.
What I like about him is the approach to a race, very professional and i'd say an all around one. He is one of the few drivers capable of setting a car on his own.
Then there's Massa. Often bashed, often depreciated but still willing to race after a so tough accident. What i like about him, in this case, is that he always smiles and does his best no matter what. He's one of the drivers that would rather crash than finishing 3rd instead of 2nd, or 1st.
Put the asshole (Alonso) in the mix, he reminds me of coulthard... if he drove covered wheels car he would be pitting anybody before a turn just to pass'em.
That's going to be a good mix to watch if they're close together. Vettel, Kubica and Kobayashi will be an added value.
This Year we'll see if Alonso is a true world champion or if he just won because of a downstream on ferrari's part.
All of this provided that they have good cars, otherwise there's nothing you can do if the ferrari is powered by the fiat 500 engine with the chassis of a ducato :)
PerSmitt 02-03-2010, 05:16 AM This Year we'll see if Alonso is a true world champion or if he just won because of a downstream on ferrari's part.
We all know he won because Renault had the Michelin tires and Ferrari had the Bridgestones.
The difference between the two tire specs those years was huge. Otherwise Schumi would have had 2 more feathers in his hat and Alonso would get his well deserved "I am almost best".
In 2007 Alonso hoped to reign supreme when Schumi vanished and look what happened. Beaten by a rookie! Now Schumi is back too and Alonso will suffer humiliating defeat after humiliating defeat. He will finally snap under the stress and spend the rest of his career racing tricycles against children in kindergarten.
Hehehe I bet I got Polo frothing there ;)
bse50 02-03-2010, 07:06 AM Alonso 1st during the morning sessions, did better than Massa.
De la rosa 2nd with .5 secs
Schumi 3rd, 0.8 secs
ATL-GP 02-03-2010, 08:04 AM We all know he won because Renault had the Michelin tires and Ferrari had the Bridgestones.
The difference between the two tire specs those years was huge. Otherwise Schumi would have had 2 more feathers in his hat and Alonso would get his well deserved "I am almost best".
In 2007 Alonso hoped to reign supreme when Schumi vanished and look what happened. Beaten by a rookie! Now Schumi is back too and Alonso will suffer humiliating defeat after humiliating defeat. He will finally snap under the stress and spend the rest of his career racing tricycles against children in kindergarten.
Hehehe I bet I got Polo frothing there ;)
....and they had probably the best launch control device on the grid...AND their mass damper system...which was subsequently declared ILLEGAL the following year. I'll give it to Alonso...he had the car to beat in his first winning season and he drove the hell out of the Renault...but in his second season at Renault....pfffft...I think the guy just got lucky.
alfy28 02-03-2010, 09:19 AM We all know he won because Renault had the Michelin tires and Ferrari had the Bridgestones.
The difference between the two tire specs those years was huge. Otherwise Schumi would have had 2 more feathers in his hat and Alonso would get his well deserved "I am almost best".
In 2007 Alonso hoped to reign supreme when Schumi vanished and look what happened. Beaten by a rookie! Now Schumi is back too and Alonso will suffer humiliating defeat after humiliating defeat. He will finally snap under the stress and spend the rest of his career racing tricycles against children in kindergarten.
Hehehe I bet I got Polo frothing there ;)
Polo most likely woke up happy as can be. But after reading your comment, he might go cry in a corner somewhere :)
Btw, Polo, it doesn't matter how fast the Ferrari is because they break down with technical failures anyways. [/B]Or they put in too little fuel so Massa will have to roll the last lap on fumes.
Ah the antics of Ferrari. Driving with passion and making mistakes :)
this comment alone, almost made me spill my water.
alfy28 02-03-2010, 09:26 AM http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=151092&stc=1&d=1265207185
Pololo_RX8 02-03-2010, 11:44 AM Stop all the crying and whinning... Let the master show you all HOW THIS IS DONE!!!!
Link ...
http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5915907,00.html
And part of the actual insert...
" Fernando Alonso continued his impressive Ferrari debut, setting the fastest time of the week during the morning session at Valencia.
Despite being only 29 laps into his Ferrari career, and Wednesday's running is first opportunity to drive the new F10, Alonso quickly proved that he is going to be a force this season.
1 Alonso Ferrari 1:11.599 29 laps
2 de la Rosa Sauber 1:12.094 21 laps
3 Schumacher Mercedes 1:12.438 30 laps
4 Alguersuari Toro Rosso 1:12.576 37 laps
5 Button McLaren 1:13.498 +1.899 14 laps
6 Petrov Renault 1:14.009 +2.410 47 laps
7 Hulkenberg Williams 1:14.121 26 laps "
This is HOW IT IS DONE BOYS!! :) :) ... Now who is laughing? :fingersx:
And who is crying? :crying:
Life is good now...
Carlos
alfy28 02-03-2010, 12:04 PM Stop all the crying and whinning... Let the master show you all HOW THIS IS DONE!!!!
Link ...
http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5915907,00.html
And part of the actual insert...
" Fernando Alonso continued his impressive Ferrari debut, setting the fastest time of the week during the morning session at Valencia.
Despite being only 29 laps into his Ferrari career, and Wednesday's running is first opportunity to drive the new F10, Alonso quickly proved that he is going to be a force this season.
1 Alonso Ferrari 1:11.599 29 laps
2 de la Rosa Sauber 1:12.094 21 laps
3 Schumacher Mercedes 1:12.438 30 laps
4 Alguersuari Toro Rosso 1:12.576 37 laps
5 Button McLaren 1:13.498 +1.899 14 laps
6 Petrov Renault 1:14.009 +2.410 47 laps
7 Hulkenberg Williams 1:14.121 26 laps "
This is HOW IT IS DONE BOYS!! :) :) ... Now who is laughing? :fingersx:
And who is crying? :crying:
Life is good now...
Carlos I for one , is laughing. I never seen any one get so excited over test lap times. As for crying, we shall see in March :naughty:
alfy28 02-03-2010, 01:55 PM http://img.worldcarfans.com/2010/2/large/2812983.jpg
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alnielsen 02-03-2010, 11:19 PM I for one , is laughing. I never seen any one get so excited over test lap times. As for crying, we shall see in March :naughty:
I have to agree. You never know how the car is configured. How much fuel they are using. It's just a test session and they may not be trying to go flat out.
BTW: Yes, I'm back. I drove 17hrs/1500 miles straight yesterday. Stopping only for gas. I'm still recovering.
PerSmitt 02-04-2010, 01:50 AM Exactly. It might give an indicator how it will be between two drivers in the same team but that is about it for now. Even between two drivers it can be difficult to say considering they might be analyzing different things in the car with different setups and fuel levels.
But I am glad Polo is glad, because I am glad when my friends are glad. However, I will try to be stoic when Polo weeps in March and hand him a tissue. ;)
alfy28 02-04-2010, 11:35 AM Exactly. It might give an indicator how it will be between two drivers in the same team but that is about it for now. Even between two drivers it can be difficult to say considering they might be analyzing different things in the car with different setups and fuel levels.
But I am glad Polo is glad, because I am glad when my friends are glad. However, I will try to be stoic when Polo weeps in March and hand him a tissue. ;)
Me to, I am so glad that polo is happy also. Because the way I see it, Polo is like that little beautiful flower out in the meadow. But at times, you get this urge just to pounce on it. Not that I ever pounced on a pretty flower or anything. But its just a thought :)
I have to agree. You never know how the car is configured. How much fuel they are using. It's just a test session and they may not be trying to go flat out.
BTW: Yes, I'm back. I drove 17hrs/1500 miles straight yesterday. Stopping only for gas. I'm still recovering.
wb Aln, glad you had a blast man :)
Pololo_RX8 02-04-2010, 12:50 PM Me to, I am so glad that polo is happy also. Because the way I see it, Polo is like that little beautiful flower out in the meadow. But at times, you get this urge just to pounce on it. Not that I ever pounced on a pretty flower or anything. But its just a thought :)
wb Aln, glad you had a blast man :)
You guys are cracking me up!!:lol: The awesome thing is that we ALL LOVE F1 and can't wait to start getting on each other's cases... lol
Next week will be a "dejavu" of this week... You'll see... BTW, you all know how much I root for the Ferrari Team.. Granted I'd also like to see RBR, Sauber and even Lotus succeed. :)
And for the record, I could care less of the Mclaren puppets... See what just happened yesterday? They could not get the right seat for Button for God sakes! Shouldn't they have this done ahead of time? He might be wearing a #1 but we all know he'll be #2... we all know that.
Bring it on... I am getting lots of Visine for all the cry boys here :) :)
GO Ferrari!!
Carlos
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