View Full Version : Went to track, stock rx8 sucks
Whoever said they ran under a 15 with a bone stock rx8 is full of
shit unless they are the best driver in the f***** world. I just
took mine out to the track and every time I tried to drop the
clutch I got insane wheel hop through the entire first gear, it
never even spun the tires (DSC was off). I tried launching from
all different rpm's with no luck. The best time I ran was
a 15.867 @ 91.46 mph but maybe its because i've never been to
the track before. I'm going to put in motor mounts and let out
some tire pressure next time i go. Here's my time slips. If anyone
has done better with their stock rx8 please post time slips.
http://www.smokeherb.com/timeslips.jpg
zerobanger 01-08-2004, 09:23 PM you are getting 2.6 on your 60' ft. YOu need to improve your 60' and then your time will drop. If you get a 2.2 60' and maintain the optimal shift pattern you will do a 14.6 or so.
zerobanger 01-08-2004, 09:24 PM what RPM do you launch at? What RPM do you shift at? Thanks.
syntrix 01-08-2004, 09:41 PM First of all, watch the swearing.
Ranging from 2.5 to 3.3 60's is really bad launching at the track. And we all know that launches are EVERYTHING in 1/4 mile.
Since it was your first time at the track, I can understand the very poor launches.
As a suggestion, DON'T lower your tire pressures until you gain some launching experience.
Here's some of my old slips (non-rx8) to make you drool:
http://www.swankmonkey.com/images/13.6.jpg
http://www.swankmonkey.com/images/11.7.gif
http://www.swankmonkey.com/images/11.5.jpg
Haven't launched the 8 at the strip yet, and I really don't plan to in the future.
Sea Ray 01-08-2004, 09:45 PM Hey Syntrix,
Whats the deal with your reaction time?? You are losing some time there. I've never tired it so I am just curious.
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edit by syntrix:::... damn, actually ADDED to your post sorry about that.... snipping and adding my stuff separately....
I tried launching from 8k, 6k, 5k, and 3k. Also switching from 3rd
to 4th is very hard for some reason. I never actually got it in 4th
gear. I'm going back out to the track on sunday to give it
another shot with new motor mounts in and less tire pressure.
Hopefully i'll get some better times.
syntrix 01-08-2004, 09:49 PM Throttle and clutch modulation to keep just a little tiny bit of wheel spin are the keys. I know that you can do MUCH better than a 2.5 60'. Just need to work on it!
syntrix 01-08-2004, 09:50 PM R/T does not affect overall time. It is added to a sportsman run.. see the 13.6, I got a FASTER time, SLOWER reaction, and the other guy won the RACE.
I usually line up and take my time as these are all mostly Test and Tunes.... the R/T is not added. The time starts when you dump the clutch!
Sea Ray 01-08-2004, 09:53 PM Ok on the start time but what about the wheel hop? I have only got on mine a couple times and I also noticed some bad hop going from 1st to 2nd.
yea the wheel hop was horrible no matter how i launched it. I'm putting in new motor mounts and hopefully that will fix it.
zerobanger 01-08-2004, 09:57 PM I think you should launch at 6000 to start and feather the clutch. I have not launched my rx8, but my technic for my 94 rx7 was to lauch at 3000, feather the clutch about 1/2 way and then drop it.
syntrix 01-08-2004, 10:09 PM Also, who has mounts?
An old-timer trick is to get that window repair urethane or whatever it is..... and fill the spaces in the rubber mounts with it. It will stiffen up the stock mount... if there's spaces in it.
Gord96BRG 01-08-2004, 10:24 PM Originally posted by hasg
Whoever said they ran under a 15 with a bone stock rx8 is full of shit unless they are the best driver in the fuckin world.
:p Sure, your times suck and it's the car's fault!! :p
Regards,
Gordon
Lawerence 01-08-2004, 10:36 PM I went with him and drove the 8.
It is a hard car to drive well (in the 1/4 mile) stock for a few reasons: (imo ;) )
1: Ungodly amounts of wheel-hop. Man I thought my car was bad...but this takes the cake.
Syntrix: no one has mounts we are going to fill them with polyurethane
2. Peaky powerband (but a relatively smooth tq curve). This makes the launch a hit or miss (ie. bog, spin/hop or good launch)
3. Notchy shifter. I dont know if its his car, but the 3-4 shift seems like its a BITCH to get into. Going from my 6spd to his, the 3-4 felt even worse.
But, you can still feel the car pull pretty well once it gets going. With a 2.2 60' I could see a 14.6-7 @94ish.
THis car seems very much like the RSX in its power delivery and even in the launch.
I dont think tonight was the best for traction because i was expecting to break 14s in my car but could only pull crap 2.33 60's.
(i did get my best R/T of .051 woot!)
http://gallery.thevboard.com/users/Lawerence/thirdrun.JPG
Oh and the 17.5 he posted was mine....how embarassing :(
syntrix 01-08-2004, 10:49 PM Anyone notice the first timeslip url?
http://www.smokeherb.com/timeslips.jpg
Maybe like a transformer, there was more than meets the eye?
Lawerence 01-08-2004, 10:53 PM I doubt the URL has anything to do with the way he drives
:confused:
Dick Carlson 01-09-2004, 08:18 AM You mean an "altered conceptual state?"
what are you trying to say?
Chuck Clifford 01-09-2004, 05:04 PM Maybe you did your burnout in bong water. I picture the old Cheech and Chong movie where they are going down the interstate, the whole car is full of smoke and the musics blareing, you think they are going 100 MPH, then the camera pans back and they are going like 5 in a 55 zone. :D
r0tor 01-10-2004, 01:27 PM whats all this about the 3-4 shift???
... if your driving a RX8 6speed and only going 91.4mph at the end of the 1/4 mile you would still be in 3rd gear since that tops out at 96mph....
Originally posted by hasg
what are you trying to say?
he means it seems you mispelled the last letter of your name...the "h" is to the right of the "g"
(just being humorous, don't take offense)
delhi 01-12-2004, 01:59 PM syntrix, is your car stock? 11.xx for 1/4 is hella fast! that's faster than a 400hp Z06!
SPD-FC 01-12-2004, 06:56 PM those are the worst times i have ever seen out of a rx8, I can get better 60' out of my fwd protege (stock)
syntrix 01-12-2004, 07:51 PM Originally posted by delhi
syntrix, is your car stock? 11.xx for 1/4 is hella fast! that's faster than a 400hp Z06!
If you read my post there's this before the links:
(non-rx8).
Just showing you track newbies that I have a lot of 1/4 mile experience.
IMHO, you really dont' want to launch the RX8 unless you uprate the driveshafts and put in stiffer mounts (rubber to urethane).
There is a lot of wheel hop, and that can destroy trannies!
We've seen more than one person destroy their transmissions. Same in ANY other world.. you get wheel hop, you are putting crazy amounts of stress on the internals :(
delhi 01-13-2004, 07:36 AM Whew! I wasn't reading properly. Just too caught up with an 11sec "RX-8". :D Forgive me... but may I ask what car was that? a modified rx-7?
Lawerence 01-13-2004, 09:36 AM Originally posted by SPD-FC
those are the worst times i have ever seen out of a rx8, I can get better 60' out of my fwd protege (stock)
I think mid 15s will be about average for a stock RX8.
Let me tell you that its easier to cut better 60' with a FWD protege than it is with the RX8 (in stock form that is).
zerobanger 01-13-2004, 09:48 AM Originally posted by Lawerence
I think mid 15s will be about average for a stock RX8.
Let me tell you that its easier to cut better 60' with a FWD protege than it is with the RX8 (in stock form that is).
mid 15's average for a stock Rx-8. Yea right. If mid 15's is average for a stock rx-8 then high 14's low 15's are average for a 350Z, high 13's are average for an STI, mid 13's are average for a Z06.
Shift at redline, launch at 6000, shift fast you will run high 14's.
Broker73 01-13-2004, 09:52 AM mid 15's??
have you been reading times posted on here?
The 8 is a mid to high 14sec 1/4 mile car stock. Members on here have proved that. Your time estimates are off.
Canzoomer pulled a 13.8 with his stage one mod that adds 25hp. Without it the 8 is closer to high 14's. Judge ITO has pulled low 14's stock
zerobanger 01-13-2004, 09:57 AM Originally posted by Broker73
mid 15's??
have you been reading times posted on here?
The 8 is a mid to high 14sec 1/4 mile car stock. Members on here have proved that. Your time estimates are off.
Canzoomer pulled a 13.8 with his stage one mod that adds 25hp. Without it the 8 is closer to high 14's. Judge ITO has pulled low 14's stock
I think the 13.8 was with a G-Tech. If im right, please dont confuse G-Tech times with real 1/4 track times. While I dont doubt that the Rx-8 with canzoomers mod will do atleast 13.8, I think thats a G-tech time. Also, Judge Ito destryed his car to run 14.3. 14.75 or so is a normal time for the car, I strongly believe that. Just mod the car if you want to go faster, no big deal.
Please correct me if im wrong.
Lawerence 01-13-2004, 10:27 AM Before you think anything read my entire post.
THIS CAR IS CAPABLE OF MID 14s STOCK.
I know this. Its just that in my opinion you need to be one hell of a driver to get that time out of the car.
"mid 15's average for a stock Rx-8. Yea right. If mid 15's is average for a stock rx-8 then high 14's low 15's are average for a 350Z, high 13's are average for an STI, mid 13's are average for a Z06."
I've driven all those cars with the exception of the Z06. And let me tell you, they are much easier to launch than an RX8.
Now you named a couple of people who got good times out of the car. But if you look down through the racing section (even back a few pages) you will find that most people are running shitty times.
I said (IMO) what the contributing factors are as to why its so hard to launch on the first page of this post.
But launching at 6k and shifting at redline itsnt the problem. He did that (i was in the car for one of his runs).
Im done arguing. But this site really needs a 1/4 time section. With a list of ppl who ran and what thier times are (faster ET to slowest). Oh and timeslips just because im an ass and dont believe ppl over the internet ;)
zerobanger 01-13-2004, 10:38 AM Originally posted by Lawerence
Before you think anything read my entire post.
THIS CAR IS CAPABLE OF MID 14s STOCK.
I know this. Its just that in my opinion you need to be one hell of a driver to get that time out of the car.
"mid 15's average for a stock Rx-8. Yea right. If mid 15's is average for a stock rx-8 then high 14's low 15's are average for a 350Z, high 13's are average for an STI, mid 13's are average for a Z06."
I've driven all those cars with the exception of the Z06. And let me tell you, they are much easier to launch than an RX8.
Now you named a couple of people who got good times out of the car. But if you look down through the racing section (even back a few pages) you will find that most people are running shitty times.
I said (IMO) what the contributing factors are as to why its so hard to launch on the first page of this post.
But launching at 6k and shifting at redline itsnt the problem. He did that (i was in the car for one of his runs).
Im done arguing. But this site really needs a 1/4 time section. With a list of ppl who ran and what thier times are (faster ET to slowest). Oh and timeslips just because im an ass and dont believe ppl over the internet ;)
I have a 1994 Rx-7 TT and yes its easier to launch than my Rx-8. The Rx-8 requires you to launch at a higher RPM. Just like the s2000 if you launch at low RPM's you will run 15's, I'm not denying that. but to say it averages 15's is stupid.
SPD-FC 01-13-2004, 12:03 PM Originally posted by Lawerence
I think mid 15s will be about average for a stock RX8.
Let me tell you that its easier to cut better 60' with a FWD protege than it is with the RX8 (in stock form that is).
I have ran both cars and there is no way in the world that a 130hp fwd protege should cut better 60' than a rx-8, rev it to 6200 and drop the clutch I get no wheel hop it just hooks up. I am taking it out to the track with the new exhaust on i am looking for at least a 2.0 out of the 60'.
Lawerence 01-13-2004, 07:39 PM The track and the street are different.
At the track. If you dump the clutch you will get wheel hop.
"I have a 1994 Rx-7 TT and yes its easier to launch than my Rx-8. The Rx-8 requires you to launch at a higher RPM. Just like the s2000 if you launch at low RPM's you will run 15's, I'm not denying that. but to say it averages 15's is stupid."
I dont think you compreheand what im saying.
THe S2K doesnt have any wheelhop. Its much easier to launch than an RX8 (at the track, i've never launched them on the street).
zerobanger 01-13-2004, 07:51 PM Originally posted by Lawerence
The track and the street are different.
At the track. If you dump the clutch you will get wheel hop.
"I have a 1994 Rx-7 TT and yes its easier to launch than my Rx-8. The Rx-8 requires you to launch at a higher RPM. Just like the s2000 if you launch at low RPM's you will run 15's, I'm not denying that. but to say it averages 15's is stupid."
I dont think you compreheand what im saying.
THe S2K doesnt have any wheelhop. Its much easier to launch than an RX8 (at the track, i've never launched them on the street).
I comprehend fine. I have been to the track ALOT. I understand the idea of wheel hop. My 94 RX7 had bad wheel hop until I replaced the trailing arms and lowered the psi of the tires.
All cars get wheel hop, its not just the rx8.
Lawerence 01-14-2004, 09:30 AM OK im only taking the times of ppl who went to the track.
NO GTECH and NO OTHER METHODS. ONLY TRACK TIMES:
15.4 @ 92.8
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16035
14.5 @ 94
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13059
15.1 @ 91
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10493
15.2 @ 91
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11379
10.1 @ ?? (1/8th mile) 10.1 = 15.8-16.1 in the 1/4mile
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10922
And this thread where his best was a 15.8 @ 91.6.
SO we have 5 15 seccond times and one 14 seccond time.
The average (not counthing the 10.1 1/8) is 15.2.
I have PROVED my point with other peoples times.
Again I dont believe in Gtech or any other method besides the track. So if you guys want to prove me wrong go get some timeslips in the mid 14s to lower that average.
Untill then the average RX8 runs a 15 seccond 1/4 mile.
zerobanger 01-14-2004, 09:34 AM Originally posted by Lawerence
OK im only taking the times of ppl who went to the track.
NO GTECH and NO OTHER METHODS. ONLY TRACK TIMES:
15.4 @ 92.8
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16035
14.5 @ 94
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13059
15.1 @ 91
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10493
15.2 @ 91
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11379
10.1 @ ?? (1/8th mile) 10.1 = 15.8-16.1 in the 1/4mile
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10922
And this thread where his best was a 15.8 @ 91.6.
SO we have 5 15 seccond times and one 14 seccond time.
The average (not counthing the 10.1 1/8) is 15.2.
I have PROVED my point with other peoples times.
Again I dont believe in Gtech or any other method besides the track. So if you guys want to prove me wrong go get some timeslips in the mid 14s to lower that average.
Untill then the average RX8 runs a 15 seccond 1/4 mile.
lawrence,
You have proved nothing. Well actually, you have proved that those posts average 15 seconds. Thats it. I will take my car to the track in the next few weeks and see what I do. I am firm in my believe mid to high 14's. 14.75 is my #.
IN reality the only point to make is what the car is capable of. There are too many factors around to say "it averages". If I drag my car to mid 14's, then its a mid 14 second car. It shouldn't matter what these guys ran.
Do you own an rx-8? if not what do you drive? Cause frankly you get on my nerves.
RX8-TX 01-14-2004, 09:41 AM Originally posted by Lawerence
Untill then the average RX8 runs a 15 seccond 1/4 mile.
Sounds better if you say: high 14s ~ low 15s
;)
zerobanger 01-14-2004, 09:44 AM Ok, I know Vosko from the Rx-7 forum and I understand that judge ito is also a great driver. Since they could barely do high 14's without breaking the car, I will ammend my statement. The rx-8 is a 16 second car.
later.
syntrix 01-14-2004, 09:45 AM Aren't some of those time "first time draggers"?
Doing an average time, would be like taking a sample of 5 random people and putting them on the track. Could be good, could be bad.
Just give it some time, as the weather gets warmer, people will start to get into drag racing more and more. Then we'll get some better times.
OH, and on those averages, you are missing one HUGE thing.... elevation! That will affect times greatly.
Lawerence 01-14-2004, 09:46 AM Im getting on your nerves?
IM not trying to. WHat im saying doesnt get through to you.
But im just trrying to say that only experienced drag racers will get good 1/4 mile times out of the RX8. Ond most people (especially RX8 owners) are NOT drag racers. Hence the average of 15.2.
"IN reality the only point to make is what the car is capable of. There are too many factors around to say "it averages"."
LISTEN TO ME. I said in my first post that this car is CAPABLE OF MID 14s.
{{{This is when you spouted off some nonsense about if it averages 15s than a Z06 averages 13s. (well I showed you my proof, where is yours?)}}}
But I said it will AVERAGE in the 15s. WHich going by ppl's timeslips...IT DOES.
I really dont see what you are trying to argue.
As I agree the car is capable of 14s, its just not likely with the average driver.
Anyhow what I drive is irrelivent. We are on the RX8 msg board to discuss the RX8.
For some reason if you go to the track and run a 15...i dont think you are going to tell me.
zerobanger 01-14-2004, 09:48 AM Originally posted by Lawerence
For some reason if you go to the track and run a 15...i dont think you are going to tell me.
My first run in my 1994 Rx-7 was a 15.1. I went back the next week and ran 13.6.
I'm sure that I will run 16's or 17's in the rx-8, I already conceeded that to you.
Lawerence 01-14-2004, 09:48 AM Syntrix you are right, but no one posted thier elivations to factor in.
Anyhow, i like the 8 never said i didnt.
But you ppl jump down my thought, when all i say is that most guys will run 15s. damn. chill out
syntrix 01-14-2004, 09:58 AM Exactly Lawrence!
A LOT of people just don't understand that. Also most tracks are cold and dusty right now, if they are open at all.
For example, in another car.... I ran 13.6's all day long in vegas in about 110 degree weather, 2200 ASL.
Same popular mods, and others were pulling 12.9's or 13.0's at Sea Level on known sticky tracks.
Moral? We should all run to a sea level track, have a party and run rx8's all day long. Mmmmm, rotary cooked potatoes!
zerobanger 01-14-2004, 10:01 AM Originally posted by Lawerence
Syntrix you are right, but no one posted thier elivations to factor in.
Anyhow, i like the 8 never said i didnt.
But you ppl jump down my thought, when all i say is that most guys will run 15s. damn. chill out
you are right, we just dont like to hear the truth. After reading those threads I'm betting on a 16 for ole Zero.
Lawerence 01-14-2004, 10:11 AM Originally posted by syntrix
Exactly Lawrence!
A LOT of people just don't understand that. Also most tracks are cold and dusty right now, if they are open at all.
For example, in another car.... I ran 13.6's all day long in vegas in about 110 degree weather, 2200 ASL.
Same popular mods, and others were pulling 12.9's or 13.0's at Sea Level on known sticky tracks.
Moral? We should all run to a sea level track, have a party and run rx8's all day long. Mmmmm, rotary cooked potatoes!
Sounds good.
Everyone should come here to florida.
Sea level, rotaries and women ;)
Doesnt get much better.
you are right, we just dont like to hear the truth. After reading those threads I'm betting on a 16 for ole Zero.
Come on man. Im sure youll be getting better than 16s.
Besides you've drag raced before.
Let us know what you run! hopefully youl run 14s, good luck :)
s13lover 01-19-2004, 06:31 PM Sounds like the 3-4 gear syncro may be bad if it is hard to shift into 4th. If thats so, a cheap answer maybe to try some Red Line tranny oils, b/c they are designed for optimal shift engagement.
I believe Car and Drive launched the RX-8 at 8000rpm to get the best acceleration time and they commented that there was much wheel spin. However, the wheel spin was faster than the alternative of engine bog at low rpm.
brothervoodoo 01-19-2004, 11:43 PM Originally posted by zerobanger
Ok, I know Vosko from the Rx-7 forum and I understand that judge ito is also a great driver. Since they could barely do high 14's without breaking the car, I will ammend my statement. The rx-8 is a 16 second car. Actually, didn't they lose two tranny's already? I think vosko owns the car and judge ito drives it once in awhile....
r0tor 01-20-2004, 05:25 PM I'm still confused as to why someone would be shifting into 4th gear at a speed under 90mph (taking into account it sounds like they shifted well before the finish line)... ?????
Lawerence 01-20-2004, 08:04 PM IIm pretty sure he redlined fourth @ 91.6 as it sounded like he was bouncing off the limiter :confused:
How high is third supposed to go?
zerobanger 01-20-2004, 08:07 PM Originally posted by Lawerence
IIm pretty sure he redlined fourth @ 91.6 as it sounded like he was bouncing off the limiter :confused:
How high is third supposed to go?
third redlines around 94-96. He should have had no need to shift into 4th.
I'm racing my car on the track on Saturday, should be fun.
r0tor 01-22-2004, 05:51 PM yea, i've hit an *indicated* 96mph in 3rd...
SPD-FC 01-24-2004, 01:11 PM I just took the rx8 out to our local 1/8 mile track , it ran a best of 9.8 @ 73mph with a 2.2 60' ( our track is at a slight up hill with a crappy launch surface) I ran a few mustang GT's (2002) that could only run 9.9-10.1 in the 1/8th.
1stRX8 01-24-2004, 11:20 PM The RX-8 isn't a dragster, it's a road racer. I would never expect much out of mine for 1/4 racing. I will, however, race my Renesis powered FB when it is finished. It will be 900+lbs lighter than an RX-8. fun.
http://www.1bad7.com
est. completion June 04
SPD-FC 01-28-2004, 06:39 PM yes we know that it is'nt a drag car but it is fun anyway.
Gauge 01-28-2004, 09:22 PM lol man you got a 10 on your 1/8 .
Improve on your 60 an stuff . I have a friend with a stock nissan pickup tuck that turns an 11 thru the 1/8 . Terrible.
SPD-FC 01-29-2004, 11:05 AM Originally posted by Gauge
lol man you got a 10 on your 1/8 .
Improve on your 60 an stuff . I have a friend with a stock nissan pickup tuck that turns an 11 thru the 1/8 . Terrible.
Not all tracks are the same where we race at ( qualcomm) it is a parking lot that is at a uphill slope new mustang GT v8 run 9.8-10.0 there, you buddys truck would probably be running 12's in the 1/8 there. the guys with the evo8's could only get a 2.0 60' so a 2.2 is'nt that bad there.
blksf8 02-04-2004, 10:22 PM I find it pretty funny for the guy to get high 15s on his runs. Times at least in the high 14s are attainable for drivers who are veterans to the 1/4 mile, but he can't go out the first time to the track and think he can run 14.3 like the professional drivers from Road and Track or Car and Driver...or judge ito.
I attribute the horrible times to a rookie driver at the track. I have had over 120 runs on my old heavy 96 Eclipse N/T and ran faster than him 15.5 with just intake, exhaust, and headers.
For what it's worth, I think he can get better times if he does a few things:
1. drop the tire pressure in his rear tires
2. Make sure to heat his tires well in the burnout box
3. launch at at least 7k or 7,500 rpms. Car and Driver or Road and Track say their best 1/4 mile times were attained w/ this launch RPM.
Hey, but don't blame the car for your shortcomings as a 1/4 miler. Go out and make yourself a better driver.
Overport 02-17-2004, 06:20 PM look dude magazine editors are pretty damn good and the best one can do a 14.8
nobodys a pro, but it was your first time...you really have to get used to it.
Oh and by the way.....the stock RX8 does NOT suck....it will BLOW AWAY its competition.
speaking from someone who has RACED a 350Z and S2000
zerobanger 02-17-2004, 06:22 PM Originally posted by Doug McGill Jr.
look dude magazine editors are pretty damn good and the best one can do a 14.8
nobodys a pro, but it was your first time...you really have to get used to it.
Oh and by the way.....the stock RX8 does NOT suck....it will BLOW AWAY its competition.
speaking from someone who has RACED a 350Z and S2000
no he is right, the stock Rx-8 sucks will not not blow away its competition in the 1/4 mile. The S2000 and 350Z will beat it. its that simple. The drivers you raced sucked.
Lawerence 02-18-2004, 10:36 AM yep.
stock for stock the S2k and 350z are faster.
Gord96BRG 02-18-2004, 10:42 AM Originally posted by Doug McGill Jr.
look dude magazine editors are pretty damn good and the best one can do a 14.8
Doug, some well-intentioned advice for you - read more, learn more, put your foot in your mouth less often.
Re: read and learn more - several of the magazine tests have run better than 14.8 - R&T, Car and Driver, and Motor Trend, to name just three. Your claim that the best done is 14.8 is just plain wrong.
Re: put your foot in your mouth less often - those same magazines test the S2K and 350Z as accelerating quicker than the RX-8. Your repeated claims that the RX-8 is quicker just make you look stupid. Save yourself the humiliation!
Regards,
Gordon
Formula 420 03-16-2004, 10:15 PM LOL
VividRacing.com 03-29-2004, 02:38 PM Rotary cooked potatoes, my favorite! I've only done the 1/4 mi a few times and not officially at the track but rather a closed of section of road and we were testing out the program on the AutoEnginuity tool. The first run was a horrible start and felt like it took forever. Ended up running a 15.9. The second time I feathered the clutch at 4.5-5k and stuck the gas to the floor for a much better start. Spun the tires through first gear, and ended up running a 14.8, much better. After that the other two runs were in the 15-15.5 range. The temp was about 90 deg, running 91 octane, and 19s. Not bad, but like I said -it was unoficial. Don't think I'll be doing that again any time soon. The fun didn't last long enough. That's why I love road racing so much. Kind of like Big Red gum, the flavor lasts longer and I get to turn. LOL. BTW, didn't get much wheel hop but then again I've done a bunch to the suspension.
rx8miami 04-09-2004, 09:02 PM I think everyone here is wrong. IF you launch at 7k w/ the 8 you do not hop if you have dropped fully. I unlike the other will admit to doing this on city streets next to wannabe ricers and stangs alike here in miami. the only wheel hop you gusy are experiencing is poor clutch management. pulling the 8 out of the hole is an art and not a science much like driving a turbo vehicle. just let her rip the right way and i'll bet she come out haulin ass!
Genom 04-09-2004, 11:15 PM I think your wrong here. A lot of very capable people have bitched about the cars hop. I know that I have practiced a bit with it as well and I have had it happen too. The only way I have seen is to feather the clutch a LOT while launching and you dont get as much oomf off the line that way, as well as really wearing out the clutch.
Your car may be different. It's possible as the variations in MPG alone are tremendous, but dont assume EVERYBODY is wrong and your lonesome is right.
vosko 04-10-2004, 04:43 PM the car is judge ito's not mine. i am rotary less until i find something i want. i don't have the funds to buy an rx8 after how much i spent on my now wrecked 500hp FD. the problem is not the car. its the drivers. its a 14 second car with 15second drivers :)
i did two back to back runs in judge's rx8. i ran a 15.1 i think ? anyway it really depends on tire pressure, how high you drop it and how hot the tires are. many different factors for wheel hop. one main problem is the PPF promotes wheel hop. this has already been found on FD's since they have the same design...
whats the PPF and is there a fix for the rx8?
MazdaManiac 04-10-2004, 05:51 PM 1) RX-8 is RWD - motor mounts will not affect wheel hop.
2) I hit the end of the 1/4 at over 100 MPH. 4th is mandatory, especially since the motor stops accellerating after 8500 RPM or so. No point in redlining it if you are still in the race.
Lawerence 04-11-2004, 10:42 AM Originally posted by MazdaManiac
2) I hit the end of the 1/4 at over 100 MPH. 4th is mandatory, especially since the motor stops accellerating after 8500 RPM or so. No point in redlining it if you are still in the race.
Are you saying you trap over 100 in a stock rx8? timeslip please...
Oh and thank you i've been telling everyone that you shift into fourth before then end of the 1/4 mile. yea redline is 9000 but the power is falling faster and you would have more power if you shift.
pp13bnos 04-11-2004, 10:44 AM 4th is mandatory, especially since the motor stops accellerating after 8500 RPM or so
Thats odd....I've noticed that the highter I shifted the car the faster the mph/time was on my 8. First couple of runs I was shifting the car at 8,500, and only netted 89mph runs. After a couple more runs I noticed when I shifted the car right around 9,400 it picked up a 3-4mph everytime. All runs where done at Woodburn dragstrip.
So, when racing, I say run around 20ish psi in the tires, launch the car around 5.5krpms (Depends on traction conditions.) and shift the car at 9,400ish rpms. Thats how I've got the car to conistently run in the 14s bone stock. my .02, CJ
vosko 04-11-2004, 02:29 PM ppf= power plant frame. as of right now nobody has made anything for it because they don't want to void their warranty! its pretty simple to make a diff brace and trans brace...
NAVILESRX8 04-15-2004, 05:23 PM When all the original owners move on to the next thing and these babies start falling into the hands of other rotor nuts, then you'll awesome stuff being made for them. Rotaries have a reputation for being good draggers and with some well thought out mods, I don't see why the RX8 can't kick some butt on the dragstrip. I'm not into drag racing too much but I do like to see what they can do on the strip.
red_rx8_red_int 04-15-2004, 07:08 PM Originally posted by pp13bnos
Thats odd....I've noticed that the highter I shifted the car the faster the mph/time was on my 8.
shift the car at 9,400ish rpms. Thats how I've got the car to conistently run in the 14s bone stock. my .02, CJ
I agree. It pays to shift as high as possible without hitting the limiter. When I hit the limiter I know I shifted a hair too late.
lets see some timeslips of these 14 sec runs
Velocity-8 04-16-2004, 01:48 PM Here ya go...
Velocity-8's timeslips (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25042)
yea i just read your post. nice runs man.
SPD-FC 04-16-2004, 01:58 PM ^^ work on that 60' my best were at a 5500 clutch drop and it spun through 1st gear but came me the best 60' 2.0-2.1 on a track that is'nt that great, nice times though
Velocity-8 04-16-2004, 02:06 PM Originally posted by hasg
yea i just read your post. nice runs man.
Thank you!
Velocity-8 04-19-2004, 07:18 PM Originally posted by pcldletter
Ran a 15.1 with a reaction time of .081 for my first time ever at a track. Wheel hop was a pain to overcome, I launched at about 3.5k rpms and held 3rd to the rev limiter 5 feet after the line @ 93mph. I know with practice I can easily break the 15 second mark. I'm thinking I might get a set of rear tires on 16" rims for the strip, smaller rims help when it comes to wheel hop, as it allows the tire to flex. Anyone try a run with the pcm re-flash yet?
My runs were with the L flash. Nest time, drop your rear tire pressure to 25psi. Try launching at about 4-4500rpm and use a bit of clutch slip.
pp13bnos 04-19-2004, 07:35 PM I'll be honest, and tell you that I realy did try taking my cheasy HP digital cammera and take pictures of my run. But they turn out realy crappy. You can't even tell what the numbers say. So, I guess you'll just have to take my word for it. :) CJ
rx8_drifter 05-15-2012, 10:41 AM my best was a 14.63 if i recall in my stock 8 launching about 4400 to 4700 if i remember been so long since i draged
fuztupnz 05-15-2012, 10:43 AM 8 year bump :lol:
I'm sure your input will help the OP.
Javii 05-15-2012, 10:49 AM I need to start reading the dates first... geez.. I was half-way through page 2 before realizing I'm looking into the past.
rx8_drifter 05-15-2012, 11:13 AM I need to start reading the dates first... geez.. I was half-way through page 2 before realizing I'm looking into the past.
lol i didnt even realize time till u said. i posted my best time like 30min ago. lol a 8 year post
SubliminalPollution 05-15-2012, 11:39 AM This is the oldest thread bump I've seen but I Haven't been here long. Lol.
tcole6 05-15-2012, 12:16 PM Yeah this would almost have to be a record. Not many 8s out there before jan 04.
autoxgt 05-15-2012, 06:05 PM Yeah but if you started a new thread, you'd be flammed for it..
oki josh 05-16-2012, 04:30 PM Yeah but if you started a new thread, you'd be flammed for it..
True.
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