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2005(8) 02-13-2009, 09:58 PM Okay, so I have a question about putting a vortech supercharger on my 8... I just bought the whole kit and i'm wanting to put it on my 8 but it still be reliable still maybe push like 6-8psi... can I do this and it still be a reliable daily driver? What would I need, any advice will be much appreciated... Thanks in advance... :)
Jedi54 02-13-2009, 09:59 PM wtf is a Vortech supercharger?
The only 'mass produced' SC kits currently installed on RX-8's are Pettit and the new Hymee SC
link?
What are you using for fuel management? THAT right there will help answer your question whether this will be a dependable car. (at the moment I'm leaning towards NO)
05rex8 02-13-2009, 10:00 PM vortech??? if the 8 was a mustang, that would be the perfect choice...
You may want to search around for the available S/C and T/C options there are for our cars.
Just a thought.
05rex8 02-13-2009, 10:01 PM wtf is a Vortech supercharger?
The only 'mass produced' SC kits currently installed on RX-8's are Pettit and the new Hymee SC
link?
What are you using for fuel management? THAT right there will help answer your question whether this will be a dependable car. (at the moment I'm leaning towards NO)
http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/
Jedi54 02-13-2009, 10:01 PM saw that, I want a link to this "whole kit" he just bought.
05rex8 02-13-2009, 10:03 PM yeah, there isn't one for the 8, lol.
I'm sure we would've all known about it before this thread existed, if it was a kit for our cars.
Jedi54 02-13-2009, 10:04 PM you're spoiling all my fun...
05rex8 02-13-2009, 10:04 PM LOL, my bad....um....I was just kidding about...my other.....posts....
OP: let's see the link :)
zoom44 02-13-2009, 11:11 PM wtf is a Vortech supercharger?
The only 'mass produced' SC kits currently installed on RX-8's
well there is the DNA Procharger kit- same thing
http://www.mazdatrix.com/8forcedinduction.htm
installed on RX-8s
http://www.rx8club.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1214
http://www.rx8club.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=444
05rex8 02-13-2009, 11:14 PM it's not really the same...
procharger has a self contained oiling system
vortech taps into the oil pan :)
chancejat 02-13-2009, 11:18 PM so you bought a kit that doesn't exist?
zoom44 02-13-2009, 11:19 PM i should have said "but of course you know that- Jedi"
in a sort of Sith voice
rotarenvy 02-14-2009, 03:30 PM Okay, so I have a question about putting a vortech supercharger on my 8... I just bought the whole kit and i'm wanting to put it on my 8 but it still be reliable still maybe push like 6-8psi... can I do this and it still be a reliable daily driver? What would I need, any advice will be much appreciated... Thanks in advance... :)
to answer your question:
yes a vortech supercharger will work fine. 6-8 psi shouldn't wont be a problem.
I'm running a rotrex at 6-8 and so there have been no worries.
2005(8) 02-14-2009, 06:10 PM I didn't buy one for the car specifically... But I have one that was on a S-10... lol I'm just asking a question here so I mean calm down... But I was wondering if I could run it... , because i know i could make the pipes myself to make it fit.
risky business 02-14-2009, 06:31 PM wow, you can make the pipes? can you fab me some pipes 2?
rotarenvy 02-14-2009, 07:13 PM what trim is the blower?
ShinkaTeen 02-14-2009, 08:07 PM damn.. wait a minute...
you bought something ....
From another dimension ?
chancejat 02-14-2009, 09:55 PM yeah dude...go for it... should be easier to tune and more reliable then a custom turbo kit...gl with your install
Fanman 02-15-2009, 03:23 AM Didn't they have a custom setup running a Vortech a few years back froma dealership in the Midwest ? I think it was Sunflower Mazda or something like that, but they wanted something insane like $60K-$70K for the car.
Ross_Dawg 02-15-2009, 03:42 AM damn.. wait a minute...
you bought something ....
From another dimension ?
Hey, you know what you can buy in this dimension?
A SHIRT!
zoom44 02-15-2009, 11:30 AM Didn't they have a custom setup running a Vortech a few years back froma dealership in the Midwest ? I think it was Sunflower Mazda or something like that, but they wanted something insane like $60K-$70K for the car.
yeah it was sunflower. they ran it on a track once i think but they never really got their tuning squared away. I think they thought mazda would give them a access to the pcm which never happened:)
9krpmrx8 02-15-2009, 12:12 PM Hmmm, good luck with the install. Don't worry about all the haters. If you can fab then this maybe a very cost effective way of boosting.
2005(8) 02-15-2009, 12:26 PM Thanks for the helpful comments... But I'll kepp you updated on the install... =)
2005(8) 02-15-2009, 01:05 PM http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/product.php?p=1
Here is the supercharger I have...
StealthTL 02-15-2009, 01:11 PM If I recall correctly, Canzoomer was the designer of the Sunflower kit, using the Vortech centrifugal snail. I saw his prototypes, way back.
Last I heard he was sourcing some electric clutch units from Bosch, so it would cut out at low revs - same clutch used on a CLK.
Course that was 2005.......
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rotarenvy 02-15-2009, 03:30 PM http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/product.php?p=1
Here is the supercharger I have...
I think it should work well at 6-8 psi. I was advised that the s-trim was maybe a little small when I was looking at using a vortech however the flow map looks good for 40-50lbs of air.
05rex8 02-15-2009, 10:53 PM well, gl with the install, will be interesting to see. I love the sound the vortech's make.... :yumyum:
rotarygod 02-16-2009, 09:13 AM I think the V5 or V9 Vortech units would be a better choice for an engine of this size.
rotarenvy 02-16-2009, 03:34 PM I think the V5 or V9 Vortech units would be a better choice for an engine of this size.
what makes you choose these two? they seem very different in flow rates. the v5 looks too small, however the v9 looks good to me.
2005(8) 02-16-2009, 05:54 PM Well, I emailed a local shop so I'm currently waiting on a reply.. But I'm thinking about getting a greddy turbo kit though.. I dunno I just got my income tax back so I have a little money to play with =) lol But I still haven't decided whether I want it turbo'd or supercharged ... hmm... o well =)
05rex8 02-16-2009, 06:01 PM check out Hymee's supercharger, it's beautiful
Red Devil 02-16-2009, 06:05 PM Well, I emailed a local shop so I'm currently waiting on a reply.. But I'm thinking about getting a greddy turbo kit though.. I dunno I just got my income tax back so I have a little money to play with =) lol But I still haven't decided whether I want it turbo'd or supercharged ... hmm... o well =)
If you're going to need someone to do custom fab work for you, you'd be better off purchasing someone's already finished kit.
rotarygod 02-17-2009, 09:10 AM what makes you choose these two? they seem very different in flow rates. the v5 looks too small, however the v9 looks good to me.
I actually never saw the maps for either. I was just basing that purely on what their total output capability is and what engine size they are recommended for. Where'd you find the maps at? Are they on Vortech's website?
rotarenvy 02-17-2009, 03:37 PM I actually never saw the maps for either. I was just basing that purely on what their total output capability is and what engine size they are recommended for. Where'd you find the maps at? Are they on Vortech's website?
the australian vortech dealer http://www.capa.com.au/vortech.htm
rotarygod 02-17-2009, 10:56 PM After looking at those 2 maps, I don't think the V5 looks small at all. I don't think the V9 looks bad either. They actually look quite comparable to each other. The difference I see is that for lower boost the V5 would probably be more efficient but at higher boost levels the V9 would probably take it by a little bit. I'm only talking about a switch over point of about 11 or 12 psi or so and even then the difference between them is only a couple of percent. I think either would be good. They're supposed to be comparable to each other from an engine size standpoint and the maps seem to support that. They each definitely look better than the V1. That unit is just too large.
rotarenvy 02-18-2009, 04:56 AM yeah agree it's only a few percent efficiency and v-5 would be ok for 7psi but I would change over to the v9 before 11psi. I seem to be reading the maps completely differently to you since the v1 looks small to me :dunno:
I have a feeling these things like to be oversize just look at the procharger.
krijpipudht 02-18-2009, 05:33 AM Wish you very good luck.
I really wanna see more supercharger options for RX-8.
rotarygod 02-18-2009, 09:37 AM yeah agree it's only a few percent efficiency and v-5 would be ok for 7psi but I would change over to the v9 before 11psi. I seem to be reading the maps completely differently to you since the v1 looks small to me :dunno:
I have a feeling these things like to be oversize just look at the procharger.
I went back and ran some numbers again and couldn't get my original ones. I must have entered a value wrong the first time. Who knows? My last run at it seems to agree with you better now though. I'm still not sure I'd say the V1 is small though.
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