sorry no pics...but i basically spun out going up state college in fullerton,ca switched lanes, spun out, 2 full spins and nailed the curb. No major body damge just minor scrapesto the side. Main damage was to the rear right tire. basically the axle looks ok as far as i no but the tire is completely crooked and un drivable. there are about 3 full metal bent bars. ima noob at this but ya....thats basicaly what up....anybody know the average cost or how much this is going to set me bak? im pretty much thankful to be alive rite now...and that i didnt hit any other cars. the 8 is at the shop rite now but itll be a while til he can loook at it on the account of the rain. and ya it got towed~ what have you guys got to say? and i no ima newb driver and what not for crashin it but it coulda been worse. only hadthe 8 since this past december and fell in love with it. im going to get new tires as well since i noticed the tread on themis pretty much gone.

another one bites the dust

Bald tires and rain will do it all the time.

3 metal bars? are you refering to the strut arm and sway bar?

sounds expensive.

Does your 8 have DSC?

Another silver... sorry to hear man. All that suspension work is pretty costly. New control arms, sways, it adds up pretty quick. I'd go through ins.

Aye

this will be expensive. trust me.

Tough break man - you live local so i probably know where you slipped out

Question: Define "3 full metal bars" - are the metal bars connected to the disc rotors? was your traction control on?? What were you doing driving in the rain w/bald tires?? :icon_no2:

sorry about your 8 man

hey everyone . thanks for all the support/ concern. Yes my 8 does have dsc traction control. Ya it was rite next to that little park i think its called mountain ridge or something. I was stuck there from about 745 to 10 until the flatbed tow truck came. the problem wasnt so much dsc slipping from the rear but just all four tires gliding. i wasnt aware of how bad the tires tread were until i jacked it up in the rain and took it off. iv never really payed too much attention to the wheels...been looking for new ones but was considering getting new ones withsome nice rims.... the size is 225-45-r18. ill have more info abut the tires when i get the car bak probly in a few days. it was a scary feeling while spinning but miraculously didnt hit no1. so now im looking for 4 brand new all season tires...and maybe even 4 new rims since 2 of them are just all scrape. Anybody got an recommendations on some good all season tires??? rather not get winter tires since winter is rare round here.....

I like the Goodyear Eagle F1s....and I've heard the Eagle GTs are good too.

Tough break man - you live local so i probably know where you slipped out

Question: Define "3 full metal bars" - are the metal bars connected to the disc rotors? was your traction control on?? What were you doing driving in the rain w/bald tires?? :icon_no2:

3 metal bars....lets see...ima a noob all round but ill try to explain what i saw.
well basicaly from standing behind the car...the lowest metal bar connecting to the wheel was bent severely...like holy sh*t almost 90degrees it has like little air bags type things around the connection to the wheel, i imagine it a type of shock. its a rather dense large bar probally arond 2-4 inches...

the other was a smaller around 1 inch or 2 and its closer to the front of the wheel and not sure much about it.

dont really remember what the other was...

basicaly i was scared sh*tless when i crashed but ya...glad to be alive.
if i had a camera phone or camera i would taken pics but ya...=/ sorry guys.

whoa....suspension damage sucks - i have an idea of what you may have messed up but still a little vague. I don't want to jinx it though, i remember when i screwed up my last car the suspension was never the same...hopefully that's not the case with you :fingersx:

as far as a suggestion for good all weather tires, you're better off asking that question in the 'wheels and tires' forum - Since we're in Cali, it's usually sunny here so i never really switch to all weather tires....i just drive slower in the rain...

p.s. - 225/45/18?? you're sticking with stock width?? if you're gonna upgrade, why not upgrade w/a wider profile??

whoa....suspension damage sucks - i have an idea of what you may have messed up but still a little vague. I don't want to jinx it though, i remember when i screwed up my last car the suspension was never the same...hopefully that's not the case with you :fingersx:

as far as a suggestion for good all weather tires, you're better off asking that question in the 'wheels and tires' forum - Since we're in Cali, it's usually sunny here so i never really switch to all weather tires....i just drive slower in the rain...

p.s. - 225/45/18?? you're sticking with stock width?? if you're gonna upgrade, why not upgrade w/a wider profile??

suspension never be the same? how so? how is your different now? how much was your repair?

will longer width fit? i dont no much about tires... which number changes then?
any specific brands you recomend?
thanks

I hit a puddle on the Ten Freeway, spun a 360's and a 180, watched the semi drivers face in panic, cranked the wheel, spun another 180, moved it over to the side of the road.

Could barley see in front because of the rain. Saw a light pole, cranked the wheel again and spun a 360.

Just at that point in the road they decided to put in a 10 inch verticle curb.

Slam the back wheel.

Need new brakes sway bars axle and more.

Put the spare on, limped it into the Misubshi dealer and bought a new 3000 GT

Salesmen asks... why is the spare tire on?

I had a flat on the way over.


I think you may need to invest into another car.

latter that year in July at 80 degrees the puddle is still there due to the water table.

I hit a puddle on the Ten Freeway, spun a 360's and a 180, watched the semi drivers face in panic, cranked the wheel, spun another 180, moved it over to the side of the road.

Could barley see in front because of the rain. Saw a light pole, cranked the wheel again and spun a 360.

Just at that point in the road they decided to put in a 10 inch verticle curb.

Slam the back wheel.

Need new brakes sway bars axle and more.

Put the spare on, limped it into the Misubshi dealer and bought a new 3000 GT

Salesmen asks... why is the spare tire on?

I had a flat on the way over.


I think you may need to invest into another car.

latter that year in July at 80 degrees the puddle is still there due to the water table.
lol you didnt repair it? if you did, how much was it?

suspension never be the same? how so? how is your different now? how much was your repair?

will longer width fit? i dont no much about tires... which number changes then?
any specific brands you recomend?
thanks

In my old Lude' i nailed a curb with my front passenger wheel - i bent the control arm and screwed up my bushings - i forgot what other garbage the 'mechanic' told me but afterwards it was a rough ride at times - I found out they simply bent some shit back into place instead of replacing it - some bullshit that the shop did to cut costs and up the cash in their pockets. Conveniently enough, they went out of business by the time i figured that out - but i digress

total repair = 3k approximately i think :dunno:

like i said, hopefully this isn't the case with you.

and yes, a wider profile will fit - check out the sticky threads in the 'wheel's and tires' forum. look for the 'will it fit' thread. There's a wealth of information (misinformation lol jk) in there. I'm running 18x8.5 and debating on getting 255/35/18's - and just so you don't go nuts trying to figure out those numbers, i'll make it easy for you...

255 - width
35 - sidewall
18 - diameter of the wheel

now go do some homework on compound and let me know what you find because I only use summer tires :D: haha!

o ok i c. sooo heres the update....i got the call bak from the shop...and basically they found the 3 parts used for 650$ and $450 for labor. for a grand total of 1100$. yes i am f*ucked after not evenbeing able to afford insurance let alone car payments. any info or such. whats your view?

ouch - tax return?

Like the story goes... I put on the spare drove it to the dealership and bought a new car.

You won't know if you have brake problems until later.

100 is cheap plus a new wheel plus 4 tires.

Seems you streched too much to buy this car.

Credit card time!

o ok i c. sooo heres the update....i got the call bak from the shop...and basically they found the 3 parts used for 650$ and $450 for labor. for a grand total of 1100$. yes i am f*ucked after not evenbeing able to afford insurance let alone car payments. any info or such. whats your view?

personal loan? Credit Card? Ask family member for help?

Good thing is you can tell them it was the tires fault and that you are a responsible driver and don't hot dog yourself into trouble.

Show them the tires.... sympathy goes along way to collect money from relatives.

ya want to no the best thing. the mechanic only accepts cash. no credit no check....wtf!. my car is stuck there to since insurance company dropped it off there. no more towes...at least without expense. and ya most likely will be borrowing from family...hate borrowing...f my life.

easy there - don't go box cutter on your wrists now haha-

you made a pretty big mistake but you gotta learn from it. Make sure the shop doesn't try and screw you by piling onto the bill - since they know you're paying in cash, it'll be more difficult to dispute - poor paper trail - GL w/your situation. Keep us posted on the progress

Where is Caca Cali?

:lol: @ razz

sorry to hear that dude... just make sure he doesn't slap on "storage fees" if u wait too long before getting the car fixed.

it's usually better to have them start working on it, that way they dont' think you're not going to pay. your car is, after all, collateral.

just got to come up with the $1100 by the time he's done- im guessing 2 weeks maybe?

ya want to no the best thing. the mechanic only accepts cash. no credit no check....wtf!. my car is stuck there to since insurance company dropped it off there. no more towes...at least without expense. and ya most likely will be borrowing from family...hate borrowing...f my life.

if i was him, i would dump the car in a lack and get the insurance money, lol i hope no insurance company will see this lol, wait, set the car on fire like the other guys did on this form

what insurance? he doesn't have any...

no? lol, how can you even drive with out insurance

nah i got insurance lol just struggling to pay for it....major debt... and ya the insurance covered the tow truck ahha=75$ i dont think it would be worth going through the insurance because that would equal way high monthly costs....

oh seriously?? lol -

oh dude, you should be fine.......just do what ferg said :D:

Some of those people around fullerton really made me nervous when I used to live around there. College kids and whatnot and I can imagine it's even worse in the rain. Sorry to hear it man gl with everything.

Slidebar ftw!

sorry to hear that dude... just make sure he doesn't slap on "storage fees" if u wait too long before getting the car fixed.

it's usually better to have them start working on it, that way they dont' think you're not going to pay. your car is, after all, collateral.

just got to come up with the $1100 by the time he's done- im guessing 2 weeks maybe?
the guy said 1 week. its a salvage part from nor cal sumwhere so ya=/

Why doen't he get the parts from Fontanna?

That where thelocal junk yards are located.

Let me get this straight. You bought an RX-8 somehow, bald tires, I'm guessing no auto club, cracked it up, and you're whining about the cost of cash repair because you won't go through your insurance? :nopity:

Although it does reminds me of that time over Macho Grande.....

Let me get this straight. You bought an RX-8 somehow, bald tires, I'm guessing no auto club, cracked it up, and you're whining about the cost of cash repair because you won't go through your insurance? :nopity:

Although it does reminds me of that time over Macho Grande.....

just for a little less symphony....my insurance deductible is 1000$ therefore going through insurance would save me 100$ rite now but ina few months rates would be through the roof = -alot lol

the tires are just like wtf i knew i was supposed to get sumthin haha. ill take sum pics of the tires wen i get the car bak n you guys can tell me what u think.

go through the insurance, NEVER pay a shop in cash, no recourse if you do that.

The stupidity of having a $1,000 deductible aside, you're kind of missing the point. If you go through insurance, any cost beyond the $1,000 up to the value of the vehicle will be paid by insurance. News flash: the cost of repair isn't $1,100 for the parts and labor. No way. More to the point, you want used parts? After an accident? Use your head.

Yikes, scary stuff. My tires are getting to the "less than ideal" tread level and I accelerated into a sweeping left hand corner while it was raining - I was sideways the whole time. It's things like that which make me more inclined to urge people to get some high performance driving under their belts. I'm convinced my calm reaction due to experience with loss of traction kept me out of the nearby forest. I even managed to mostly maintain my lane - though I'm sure the bumper was in the adjacent lane since I could feel the passenger side rear bumping over reflectors toward the end.

Though, there does come a tread level where you're just totally at the mercy of physics. Sorry to hear about your misfortune. Glad to hear you got out alright though, even if it's going to cost a ton of money, money can be replaced.

The stupidity of having a $1,000 deductible aside, you're kind of missing the point. If you go through insurance, any cost beyond the $1,000 up to the value of the vehicle will be paid by insurance. News flash: the cost of repair isn't $1,100 for the parts and labor. No way. More to the point, you want used parts? After an accident? Use your head.

ya think about it. its only some metal bars that are being replaces....i mean new or used...if they are used theres no major difference between a new metal bar or an old metal bar....its only on the person installing them.i mean like a metal bar = a metal bar used or new. i think if the price goe beyond 1100 then ya ill consider going through insurance but at this point im not...ill wait to see the results in a week or maybe mroe with this seemingly endless rain.

That shop is ripping you off. I did the same thing, but bent only two arms...luckily the cheap ones, $80 each new from Mazda. I think the other two cost around $180 each. My total cost was $300. That's a long way from $1100...Don't be a sucker!

oh wierd.... It's gray. CURSE? and congrats atilla on the 1,000th post! haha

nah i got insurance lol just struggling to pay for it....major debt... and ya the insurance covered the tow truck ahha=75$ i dont think it would be worth going through the insurance because that would equal way high monthly costs....

If insurance paid for the tow, your insurance company now knows about the accident.

Listen to what everyone has been saying. Don't do a cash job at the place that happened to tow you in. That's a bad move on so many levels.

Pick a good shop and let your insurance company pay for the damage. Besides the $1100, didn't you clobber a wheel? If it's an OEM wheel, that's $500. Plus whatever the tire might have been worth. I'll bet that the cost of a proper repair will be more than the higher premiums you'll have if they do jack your rates up.

Ken

If insurance paid for the tow, your insurance company now knows about the accident.

Listen to what everyone has been saying. Don't do a cash job at the place that happened to tow you in. That's a bad move on so many levels.

Pick a good shop and let your insurance company pay for the damage. Besides the $1100, didn't you clobber a wheel? If it's an OEM wheel, that's $500. Plus whatever the tire might have been worth. I'll bet that the cost of a proper repair will be more than the higher premiums you'll have if they do jack your rates up.

Ken
well if he charges anymore ima go to sum1 else or thorugh insurance. the rim is ok, just scratched the f up. im goign to get new tires...been needing them for a while. this was just a slap in the face sayin getin new tires now lol. will show pics of them wen i get the car bak.
the insurance comany paid for the tow cuz i get up to 5 a year no questions asked. so insurance company doesnt no about nothing. just that i needd a tow.
i went to a shop that is privately owned in downtown la habra where i live near so its not like its a ripoff place. he charges alot for labor but wutevs cuz its quality job if he repairs it bak to normal.

and nick..the same type as mine? whats thename the place that you got it fixed? cuz i dont think they are the same pieces that bent on mine because the pieces i needed for mine are 650$ total from a junkyard in norcal. used is a shitload cheaper than new. and your mechanic didnt even charge for their labor? 300$ total cost? i mean dam.

The young and the useless. :icon_no2: When it blows up in your face, don't say we didn't warn you.

The stupidity of having a $1,000 deductible aside,

How stupid is a $1000 deductable? When I was a kid, and cars cost $2000 to $3000, a $100 deductable was pretty standard. Now that cars cost $20,000 to $30,000, a bigger deductable makes sense. Unless you're accident prone, in the long run the lower premium will pay off.

Ken

How stupid is a $1000 deductable? When I was a kid, and cars cost $2000 to $3000, a $100 deductable was pretty standard. Now that cars cost $20,000 to $30,000, a bigger deductable makes sense. Unless you're accident prone, in the long run the lower premium will pay off.Not withstanding the fact that most lenders now won't allow it, no in the long run it doesn't pay off.

You should cantact the insurance company and tell them you want an estimate and you want them to tow it to Reliable Rotary AKA Fast Freddies on Harbor blvd.

Boder line SA Costa Mesa.

Let the pros fix it.

Bald tires f-cked me up in a different older shittier car while my 8 was in the shop. I always keep track of my tire tread/mileage on my car, but was forced to drive a car that was not mine (old family car, and my father never takes care of his cars), and thats what I got. I almost refuse to drive anything but my 8 now, unless I know its been taken care of properly.

You're lucky, I did almost the exact same thing to my 8 and with parts and labor at a high quality shop it was over $3k to repair

Drive without TCS at your own risk!

Not withstanding the fact that most lenders now won't allow it, no in the long run it doesn't pay off.

That brings up another point in favor of getting the insurance company involved. If there's a loan on the car, the lender has a stake in whether the car is fixed properly.

Ken

oh seriously?? lol -

oh dude, you should be fine.......just do what ferg said :D:


Happy 1000th post!



Ugh, I say go with Insurance, you are better off and you can get the job done at any awesome place you choose. It doesn't matter if you feel bad for the @ the garage who is going to do your work, just atleast use insurance for your repairs.

Everyone on this thread is saying that. Don't understand why you wont do that.

But hey what do i know?

so the 8 was in teh care of the mechanic repairing the axle parts n what not and he flooded the car... well at least thats what im assuming...and now the car doesnt start...tried a few tricks from these forums but didnt work...the people next door quincidently fix stuff like that so they are going to clean the spark plugs for around 100$....rip off??? or mayb even more...any ideas whats up? and who should be responsible for the flooding? him rite? or 50/50 for me not telling him not to shut it off if its not warmed up yet.......please help

Wow, sorry dude. Like every single poster has said, have the damn car towed to a known reliable shop and go through insurance. This car isn't a toy (in the sense of a cheap daewoo).

You have been warned multiple times by multiple people who mean well, and by now they probably have given up on you. It's turning into comedy now, sad to say. This sounds an awful lot like the other thread where a guy kept overheating and refused to take it into a shop for 4 months, yet kept asking for advice.

I just don't understand. :banghead:

You do realize that people who gave you advice (^above^) are super-smart mechanics and/or race their cars on weekends, right? They're not some bar-fly in a dark alley giving you advice. :spank:

ya btu the thing is from what i saw the mechanic fixed everything. and just made the minor mistake of turning off the car too ealry...didnt think about warning him of the possible flooding the engine...how much you think it costs for a dealer to clean spark plugs?
Wow, sorry dude. Like every single poster has said, have the damn car towed to a known reliable shop and go through insurance. This car isn't a toy (in the sense of a cheap daewoo).

You have been warned multiple times by multiple people who mean well, and by now they probably have given up on you. It's turning into comedy now, sad to say. This sounds an awful lot like the other thread where a guy kept overheating and refused to take it into a shop for 4 months, yet kept asking for advice.

I just don't understand. :banghead:

You do realize that people who gave you advice (^above^) are super-smart mechanics and/or race their cars on weekends, right? They're not some bar-fly in a dark alley giving you advice. :spank:

ya btu the thing is from what i saw the mechanic fixed everything. and just made the minor mistake of turning off the car too ealry...didnt think about warning him of the possible flooding the engine...how much you think it costs for a dealer to clean spark plugs?

To answer you more directly, I don't know, maybe others will. The only time my car was flooded (by my roommate when I was out of town), it was towed to the dealership and it was fixed for free - I didn't pay a cent to tow or repair.

What is your warranty situation?

This mechanic clearly hasn't worked on rotaries before. :icon_no2:

Edit: I wouldn't pay a damn thing, let the mechanic figure it out. It's not your fault this happened, it's a known issue.

Mechanic needs to:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2189/2376491048_312ca577fc.jpg?v=0

It's flooded? De-flood procedure. Fails, like it does for me? Pull Start always works.

It's flooded? De-flood procedure. Fails, like it does for me? Pull Start always works.
where is pull start? what is? couldnt find this... and warranty is not avail cuz im sec owner n do my own oil n what now so dont no much about warranty

Wow, I'm gone for a few weeks and it seems like all the guys here have become a lot nicer and not tearing him a new one.

I don't understand but you seem to not be able to afford this car and are running on bald tires in the rain? I mean it seems like you were just asking for this to happen. I have bald tires on my 8 at the moment in the rear and have had no time to change them out which is why I have been driving my s13.

If you are going to be buying a car be sure you can afford to to pay for the insurance that won't bite you in the butt if you have an accident.

Your wheel if it was bent in any way will never balance 100% correctly again from slamming into the curb. As for the suspension work it will never be the same since after you mess it up its almost impossible to get perfect again. I put a s14 240sx into a garage hopping onto a curb when i was stupid and wrecked the tie rods and a few other things, the car never drove straight again.

Those "metal bars" that you describe are generally very important suspension components and although to you may not seem to be worth much they are generally very precisely made and have to be up to a certain quality in materials which is why they cost so much.

I say let the insurance deal with it as paying with cash is never the way as stated before there is no paper trail and if anything goes wrong the mechanic can just deny it. Especially since I know a lot of guys who just used scrapped parts from pick n' pull and charge OEM prices for 'parts and labor'. Get insurance to pay for it and get it done RIGHT the first time.

where is pull start? what is? couldnt find this... and warranty is not avail cuz im sec owner n do my own oil n what now so dont no much about warranty

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=17498&highlight=Engine+Flooding+Info%2FQuestions

Thats the sticky.

Here's an older thread where I explained pull-starting from scratch:
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=159552

Here is the specific post you may find useful:
http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=2709869&postcount=15

Get insurance to pay for it and get it done RIGHT the first time.But he's smarter than we are.....:uhh:

...and warranty is not avail cuz im sec owner n do my own oil n what now so dont no much about warranty

The warranty goes with the car. It's automatically transferred to a new owner: you don't have to do anything for the transfer to work. As long as you're within the time and mileage, you've got a warranty. 4 years, 48k miles bumper to bumper, 5 years 60K powertrain, and 8 years 100K engine.

You also get free roadside assistance if you're within the bumper-to-bumper. Also a free loaner car if your car is laid up for warranty work. Flooding should be covered by the bumper-to-bumper.

Ken

is this a gurantee to work? will it work just as cleaning the spark plugs will?

and for the warranty...i gues ill have to look more into it wen i get it bak now. its around 70,000 miles from 04

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=17498&highlight=Engine+Flooding+Info%2FQuestions

Thats the sticky.

Here's an older thread where I explained pull-starting from scratch:
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=159552

Here is the specific post you may find useful:
http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=2709869&postcount=15

Yes, it should work. Unless somehow your sparkplugs were eaten by a gnome... then you might be out of luck. But really, as long as your spark plugs are in working condition, and your battery is charged and ready to go, there is no reason for this method to fail.

Just use common sense when doing it. That hook is meant for tie downs, not serious towing, so don't slam the pedal down on the towing car, go slow and gentle. However, when its all said and done, that hook is screwing into our bumper support bar, which is a monster, and certainly up to the task of a pull start. The main point is, you need consistent momentum, doesnt matter if you pull, push, or roll it down a moderate hill. Pushing I think would require 2 guys at least.

And obviously, this is only for manual transmission cars. Just make sure you don't plow into the car towing you when you start revving the engine, clutch-out of gear.

And doing this on snowed/iced roads with summer tires is very difficult (from experience). Wheels will sooner lock up than spin the engine XD

Anyway, it may sound like a big complicated production if you never did it before, but it is a simple and quick way to deflood.

However, I am obligated to point out that people are unsure of what the long term affects of pull starting a flooded engine are on the catalytic converter. Some speculate that the burning of excess fuel in this fashion will do some minor damage to it. If its once in a long while, I'd say its fine. If you are flooding multiple times a season, I'd go with a different method. (I'd also slam head into wall for flooding it that often.)

I find myself explaining this too often, maybe I should write up a DIY...

ill be sure to keep that in mind. but bak to updates on my car. everything is fixed...at least so i thot. turns out when i hit the curb, th backr right rear wheel bent as well....so turns out i new a new 18inch mazda rim...any1 got any ideas where to buy 1?

...and for the warranty...i gues ill have to look more into it wen i get it bak now. its around 70,000 miles from 04

At 70,000 miles the warranty is gone. All that's left is the 100K internal engine parts warranty - which would be useful if your engine blows.

Ken

ill be sure to keep that in mind. but bak to updates on my car. everything is fixed...at least so i thot. turns out when i hit the curb, th backr right rear wheel bent as well....so turns out i new a new 18inch mazda rim...any1 got any ideas where to buy 1?Good thing your insurance appraiser did a thorough job and won't need to do a supplemental check. Oh wait.....

:banghead:

You know what, this thread angers me too much, I have to unsubscribe. GL with everything. People need to have a certain level of responsibility when becoming a member of the driving community. Asking specific unique questions about the RX-8 is one thing, but needing everyone to hold your hand through this accident recovery when it seems all advice is being ignored about talking to insurance is not cool. I hope the car heals up nice, but that's more for the car's sake than yours.

:icon_no2:

im simply asking for advice....
as for insurance...i simply cant afford the jump in monthly payments for reporting this as ac accident.
iv been posting simple questions and did get the car starting agin...(cleaned the spark plugs)
so the only thing left is the rim. got one off ebay for 200$...just waiting for that to come in and i should be on my way to get new tires...
total cost without new tires=1250$
i simply cant afford to go through insurance and pay the increased rates the rest of my life....id rather eat the cost now vs the next years. does no one understand that?
and ask for the warranty...i prolly coulda saved 50$ by contacting mazda dealer but hell with it...all fine now.
:banghead:

You know what, this thread angers me too much, I have to unsubscribe. GL with everything. People need to have a certain level of responsibility when becoming a member of the driving community. Asking specific unique questions about the RX-8 is one thing, but needing everyone to hold your hand through this accident recovery when it seems all advice is being ignored about talking to insurance is not cool. I hope the car heals up nice, but that's more for the car's sake than yours.

:icon_no2:

Sucks to hear that... about wrecked mine a few weeks back in the snow.

im simply asking for advice....
as for insurance...i simply cant afford the jump in monthly payments for reporting this as ac accident.
iv been posting simple questions and did get the car starting agin...(cleaned the spark plugs)
so the only thing left is the rim. got one off ebay for 200$...just waiting for that to come in and i should be on my way to get new tires...
total cost without new tires=1250$
i simply cant afford to go through insurance and pay the increased rates the rest of my life....id rather eat the cost now vs the next years. does no one understand that?
and ask for the warranty...i prolly coulda saved 50$ by contacting mazda dealer but hell with it...all fine now.Let me put this in terms, even a caveman (Copyright 2007) would understand. You're an idiot. For having a $1,000 deductible. For having insurance and not using it. For not knowing how insurance works. For ignoring the good advice you received here.

It's obvious you can't afford to own the car if you can't afford the insurance. :rant:

I had one small comprehensive claim, one large comprehensive claim, and one large (not at fault) collision claim in 12 months. Did I go through insurance? You bet your ass I did. Car ended up better than before in two of the instances because they used new parts and even replaced slightly worn parts not damaged. And the lower deductible saved me $1,500 than it would have if I cheaped out to save $50/year with a higher deductible. Point here is you've been completely ass backwards from day one on this accident.

lol yeah, hes an idiot

the only thing your rite about is the fact that i cant afford this car.
other than that your completely wrong.
your monthly payments are much much high than mine are.
since i cannot afford huge monthly payments such as yours i have to get a higher premium. so i'm not paying a shitload every month. that is the point of a higher premium.
and because of my young age of course insurance companies charge alot more.
so put yourself in my situation and then you will understand.
the only thing you can truly blame me for is the fact of having my dream car that i cannot afford. but managing to keep.

Let me put this in terms, even a caveman (Copyright 2007) would understand. You're an idiot. For having a $1,000 deductible. For having insurance and not using it. For not knowing how insurance works. For ignoring the good advice you received here.

It's obvious you can't afford to own the car if you can't afford the insurance. :rant:

I had one small comprehensive claim, one large comprehensive claim, and one large (not at fault) collision claim in 12 months. Did I go through insurance? You bet your ass I did. Car ended up better than before in two of the instances because they used new parts and even replaced slightly worn parts not damaged. And the lower deductible saved me $1,500 than it would have if I cheaped out to save $50/year with a higher deductible. Point here is you've been completely ass backwards from day one on this accident.

Lokal-

A new OE wheel lists for close to $600. You can get a new one on-line from a dealer for something in the 400s. Or you can check the for sales here (or e-bay) for a lot less. Since a lot of people replace the originals, there are a lot out there.

Your wheel might be repairable. I had a bent and curbrashed rim fixed for $150. I used a place called Wheelworx in Maryland, which doesn't do you much good but there are places like that all around the country. I'll bet a local body shop can steer you to one. Or maybe a member here knows of one. Or there's always UPS.

Gang - I think he's been bashed enough. He's stretched thin, and seems to have put thought into his course of action. We're also not in his shoes. I remember two other accident repair threads where the OPs got pounded for not following orders, but by the time the smoke cleared their actions made sense.

Ken

the only thing your rite about is the fact that i cant afford this car.
other than that your completely wrong.Which pretty much means I was right, junior.
your monthly payments are much much high than mine are.and you know how much I pay....how? Here's a clue, the first you've ever had, I pay under $1k a year in a high insurance state for full coverage. Nice try though.
since i cannot afford huge monthly payments such as yours i have to get a higher premium. so i'm not paying a shitload every month. that is the point of a higher premium.Does the lender on your loan know? How about that extra $500 you just dropped? Oh wait, that's right it was more because you bypassed insurance.....
and because of my young age of course insurance companies charge alot more.
so put yourself in my situation and then you will understand.
the only thing you can truly blame me for is the fact of having my dream car that i cannot afford. but managing to keep.Funny, I remember being young and the reason my insurance was high was because of my driving record not my age......:uhh:

...Funny, I remember being young and the reason my insurance was high was because of my driving record not my age......:uhh:

It's the combination of age and gender. Males under 25 pay more than females under 25 or any gender over 25.

Are you sure you want to say you didn't get the under-25 penalty? :)

Ken

im simply asking for advice....
as for insurance...i simply cant afford the jump in monthly payments for reporting this as ac accident.
iv been posting simple questions and did get the car starting agin...(cleaned the spark plugs)
so the only thing left is the rim. got one off ebay for 200$...just waiting for that to come in and i should be on my way to get new tires...
total cost without new tires=1250$
i simply cant afford to go through insurance and pay the increased rates the rest of my life....id rather eat the cost now vs the next years. does no one understand that?
and ask for the warranty...i prolly coulda saved 50$ by contacting mazda dealer but hell with it...all fine now.



You got raped. I sold 4 rims with some curbage on two for $300 :lol2:

ya tried looking everywhere for wheels but found nothing.. pmd like 20 people on here and all wanted crazy prices or only selling set of 4....it was all i could find...searched everywhere. i have a clean record...1 ticket...cleared by traffic school.
and ya im talking about the under age 25 and male increase in insurance...its outrageous. if i were to have say a 250 deductible my monthly rates would be wayy too much. if i report to insurance...rates go up about 100$ every month here...so ya....maybe lil exagerate butaround that much.

Go easy on the guy... everyone on here tells us young guys that its more rewarding to pay for your own car and here we have someone who is actually paying for everything and you're gonna ride him for having a high deductible? Give me a break. I give the OP props for paying for everything and being able to keep your dream car. I also have a $1000 deductible but that's because my parents pay for it and make enough that they can pay for any not major accidents out of pocket. Fortunately for them I've never been in an accident.

I also have a clean record and the rates for a 20 year old guy are outrageous. Been driving for near 6 years without even some curb rash and my sister who's been driving for 4 months has smacked a curb and backed into someone... I think the insurance companies have it a little reversed...

It's the combination of age and gender. Males under 25 pay more than females under 25 or any gender over 25.

Are you sure you want to say you didn't get the under-25 penalty? :)

KenI lived in Massachusetts. It, at the time, didn't work that way. The premiums were fixed based on town of principal garaging, type of coverages and vehicle, and experience level (0-3,3-6,more than 6 years) of driving, with adjustments up or down for what they called a STEP which was your safe driving discount or bad driving surcharge. At the age of 20, I was paying $2,200 a year for for insurance on a financed Ford Escort. I was literally paying more a month for insurance than for the car. By the age of 25, I was driving an Al Bundy car with legal minimums and only paying $450. FWIW, the biggest change in premiums was from going 0-3 to 3-6. The change getting to 6+ was minimal.

Putting it in perspective, when I left MA, I was paying $850 for my 8, and the same coverage and carrier in CA cost $500 more. When quoting it out with that carrier, the phone rep simply could not get it through his skull that aside from my not wanting a higher deductible, the lender had it written in the loan contract that $500 was the max. As I recall, when I originally financed with Mazda it was also maxed at $500 but I'd have to go dig out the old paperwork. Needless to say, when the gecko offered me sufficient coverage for $350 less I jumped on it. So simple even a caveman could do it (Copyright 2007).

I would be afraid to purchase this car used.