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ShinkaTeen 12-08-2008, 11:17 PM well today we had a project (my major is Visual Communications)
Final PROJECT FINISHED.
Mazda Rx-8 full spread AD
BEFORE IDEA's
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/Manslayerivhan/rx-8-drift-scenery-h-1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/Manslayerivhan/rx-8-drift-scenery-1.jpg
FINAL WORK.
Changes: Scrapp'd both cars changed alot of the background and added alot more effects.
Both cars we made with the pen and pencil tool.
changed fd to 350z. just because , made the 350z into a cool poop color because i have a sense of humor.
I took alot of the feedback from the forum and did my best to use it.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/Manslayerivhan/rx-8-drift-scenery-real-rx8-club-ve.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/Manslayerivhan/jpeg-8.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/Manslayerivhan/350z-drift.jpg
RebelYJ 12-08-2008, 11:31 PM Looks sweet! Keep up the good work :icon_tup:
khronus79 12-09-2008, 12:01 AM This is awesome, given the handicaps, you're doing a great job. I just think there should be a better sense of speed, the 8 def looks like it moving but the 7 not so much so. If you incorporate the FC in the back, just coming into frame, it wouldn't be a focal point imho. Once again great job.
ShinkaTeen 12-09-2008, 12:12 AM Yeah , im going to try to get a better sense of speed like you said, but your right the fd does look very stationary.
im probably gonna end up trying to mimic some animes with alot of speed and racing
Cough* initial d Cough*.
i also was wondering if the FC should go in the back but it would just look to cluttered then.
nvrfalter 12-09-2008, 01:46 AM nice dude. im a graphic design major, soon to be Communications Design (graphic design, illustration, advertising). looks pretty good so far. are you just pen-tooling all of this by eye or are you "tracing?" is the background image made with photoshop? personally, i would leave out the FC. feels alot more focused with just the 2. cant wait to see it finished. i wish i got cool projects. im going to a terrible school right now.
photo chick 12-09-2008, 01:53 AM wow! it looks great. good job :) where are you going to school?
Chris 12-09-2008, 09:48 AM i would turn the wheels of the fd in the other direction, you gave the 8 good motion by using the tire tread blur(?) which you cant do with the FD bc the wheels are turned in the other direction, kinda makes it look like the fd is parked for a photo rather than drifting
Chris 12-09-2008, 09:59 AM here is what i mean:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc167/chrisjaws/rx-8-drift-scenery-1.jpg
heyarnold69 12-09-2008, 10:02 AM shouldn't the tires on the fd face the other way in this stage of a drift?
solito 12-09-2008, 10:03 AM Speaking from an art directors point of view, you may want to create dept between the two cars.
Chris 12-09-2008, 10:08 AM shouldn't the tires on the fd face the other way in this stage of a drift?
it all depends, I was just trying to help with giving motion
ShinkaTeen 12-09-2008, 11:58 AM hmmmm, ill have to play with the wheel, but i do think its suppose to be going in the direction i put it in, because the driver would just be starting to put the rear out and diving into the corner, but like i said i have to play.
more depth is a great idea, due to my time constraints i did cut some corners, but i will get on that tomorrow.
Like i said EVERYTHING was done in adobe ILLUSTRATOR the cars were traced with a pen tool (which was kinda difficult due to all the cars were in mid drift with ALOT of smoke covering alot of the line). the background was LIVE TRACED with 4 colors.
the school im going to is WeSTwood college of technology and design in Anaheim,CA
Chris 12-09-2008, 12:23 PM hmmmm, ill have to play with the wheel, but i do think its suppose to be going in the direction i put it in, because the driver would just be starting to put the rear out and diving into the corner, but like i said i have to play.
more depth is a great idea, due to my time constraints i did cut some corners, but i will get on that tomorrow.
Like i said EVERYTHING was done in adobe ILLUSTRATOR the cars were traced with a pen tool (which was kinda difficult due to all the cars were in mid drift with ALOT of smoke covering alot of the line). the background was LIVE TRACED with 4 colors.
the school im going to is WeSTwood college of technology and design in Anaheim,CA
it would make sense that the wheel would be in the original direction however the car has little to no motion, good luck with it :)
ShinkaTeen 12-09-2008, 09:24 PM o i had forgotten to answer the tool i used on the 8 wheel.
we are not allowed to play with opacity, so the blur tool was unusable .
so instead i drew up 2 layers of shade with the pencil tool.
Looks sweet man can't wait to see it when it's done.
Brian Major 12-10-2008, 01:19 AM the fd def looks like its understeering off the road.
cool concept though.
lancefan001 12-10-2008, 01:32 AM i see a blank page....terrorists took over imaginationland again!
AJ's Shinka 12-11-2008, 02:07 AM 8 should be in front. good job though
ShinkaTeen 12-11-2008, 02:22 AM Update on what i did today got an extended time to work on it so i played with a little line shading. i hate how it looks incomplete.
::imaged moved to the top::
khronus79 12-11-2008, 01:17 PM I like your approach, but if I may suggest the sense of speed comes not from the cars themselves but from their surroundings, if you apply this same line shading to the background instead of the cars you will get the desired effect.
The front of the picture should have the most amount of blur and slowly decrease this blur until the back of the pic is static, also the front wheel of the FD should be blurred, and I think you can achieve this blur effect with proper use of your line shading.
khronus79 12-11-2008, 01:22 PM Let me post whore some of the pics I took at the Tail of the Dragon on NC, so that you can see what I'm talking about.
Pic-whoring in the name of a better grade FTW!!!!!
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j179/khronus79/BOTD08/DSC_0431.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j179/khronus79/BOTD08/DSC_0444.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j179/khronus79/BOTD08/DSC_0445.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j179/khronus79/BOTD08/DSC_0454.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j179/khronus79/BOTD08/DSC_0460.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j179/khronus79/BOTD08/DSC_0471.jpg
ShinkaTeen 12-11-2008, 01:24 PM HOLY CRAP!!!!!
thats exactly what i needed!!!
thanks!
khronus79 12-11-2008, 01:26 PM A few more, note that the foreground seems to be moving at very high speed while the background is still, also note the main objects on the pics always remain in focus
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j179/khronus79/BOTD08/DSC_0472.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j179/khronus79/BOTD08/DSC_0474.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j179/khronus79/BOTD08/DSC_0479.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j179/khronus79/BOTD08/DSC_0585.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j179/khronus79/BOTD08/DSC_0604.jpg
khronus79 12-11-2008, 01:46 PM :icon_tup: Glad I could help:)
lepichichi 12-11-2008, 02:34 PM nice man very nice good luck in school.!
416to212 12-11-2008, 03:04 PM To me it seems like that 8 and the FD are turing on a corner with drastic changes in camber. The 8 looks like it's on an extreme negatiive camber corner and the FD looks like it's on a neutral camber corner.
altspace 12-11-2008, 04:03 PM Great start! Keep practicing new styles and techniques. That's how I got to where I am today with no school to assist.
altspace 12-11-2008, 04:16 PM Trace Bitmap is a great tool as well. Made this in 1 minute. Needs to be smoothed out of course.
http://www.altspace.com/rx8/my8vector1.jpg
kersh4w 12-12-2008, 02:10 AM its a good thing you are only 18 and a freshman.
:P
you need to work on the position of the 7 more.
ShinkaTeen 12-12-2008, 02:19 AM amen to that.^
ShinkaTeen, looks good man! Can't wait to see the completed work.
khronus, do you have any of those pics in higher res? They are sweet wallpapers if they come in a higher res.
khronus79 12-13-2008, 12:58 AM ^^^^ PM me which one you want along with you email.
ShinkaTeen 12-17-2008, 10:30 PM Bumping for finished project.
+feedback.
ShinkaTeen 12-17-2008, 11:56 PM >.<
I also have pix of just the cars.!
ill puttem up in a bit
tubingchamp 12-18-2008, 12:01 AM Looks good, but you forgot the anime decals!
ShinkaTeen 12-18-2008, 12:05 AM >.>....
You strike again..
tubingchamp 12-18-2008, 12:30 AM Gya-ha-ha..
I do like the poo-brown Z though :)
photo chick 12-18-2008, 12:51 AM that came out really good! good job dude :)
ShinkaTeen 12-18-2008, 01:53 AM just added pics of just the cars!
cjkim 12-18-2008, 02:52 AM not bad, but you've got a lot to learn ahead of you.
use the pen when you can. youll have much cleaner lines.
pencil is difficult to use with a mouse, which im guessing that you did. most of the edges look very rough.
both your line shading and tire marks have no sense of distance... as in, the thickness of the line stays the same throughout the line. makes it look awkward.
but im no art major so take this with a grain of salt.
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