View Full Version : Group buy: Hoen H9 (Xenonmatch Plus or Xenomatch Titanium)


Footman
10-06-2008, 10:08 AM
In retrospect, I don't know why I didn't buy these when I bought my Hoen Xenonmatch fogs H11 bulbs 3 weeks ago. Now I have to eat the shipping cost AGAIN.

However, perhaps there will be more interest this time around for these lights.
As you know the DRL and highbeam are the same bulb H9.

The Hoen Xenonmatch fogs are 4000k. (55 Watt)
The stock HID lowbeams are 4300k.
The Hoen Xenonmatch plus H9 are also 4000k. (65 Watt, this is the stock highbeam/DRL wattage)

Your DRL's are now the ugly-link in your front setup, since it's the most yellow. These will fix the problem.

Who's in with me, so we can reduce the shipping. $37 USD EACH, and it's a flat rate $20 to ship.


Monday October 13 is when this group buy closes

1) Footman (H9 only)
2) Sanguine (H9 and H11)
3) Millchan (H9 only)

Sanguine
10-06-2008, 08:18 PM
Pending the info on the H9 Ti bulbs and my own DRL issues, I may be in for this.

Footman
10-06-2008, 08:59 PM
I've already editted the page. H9 Titanium bulbs are out of the question. They are actually not available in H9 form, and are 70 Watt bulbs. I confirmed it with Hoen's rep.

The only option now are the $37 USD for the Xenonmatch Plus H9 bulbs. Join me!!!! Save on SHIPPING!!!!

TurboEight
10-06-2008, 09:57 PM
Go HID's are go home=)

Kafka
10-06-2008, 09:59 PM
Alex. thats DRL...AFAIK no HID for DRL according to law?

Thumper3322
10-06-2008, 11:40 PM
No need, don't have the can DRL problem.

But like your fogs and parkin lights, and then the same clear/blue corners so every thing matches hmmm

TurboEight
10-06-2008, 11:59 PM
Alex. thats DRL...AFAIK no HID for DRL according to law?

whoops

didnt realize u guy wants DRLs bulbs.....lol

i dont have DRLs...just the light markers+)

Footman
10-07-2008, 06:38 AM
DRL and high beam is the same bulb in our car, just FYI...

Thief
10-07-2008, 06:39 AM
Alex. thats DRL...AFAIK no HID for DRL according to law?

WTF? We can't use HIDs for DRLs?

Footman
10-07-2008, 08:52 AM
bump... no one interested at taking the yellow out of your DRL's everywhere you go?

Kafka
10-07-2008, 09:10 AM
I am interested Footman...So its the Highbeam used as DRL? For other cars they have HID High beams too...but I am not sure if they use their high beams as DRL?

Is it still legal to put a HID high beam in there even when its double duty as DRL? I am kinda confused...

If we can't put HID into those high beam/DRL, then I am interested, as long as its the highest K we can get without fcking up the stock electrics, which you already did the research for us.

Thanks again for your dedication and addiction to perfection...

Anyway AFAIK, complete list of bulbs for the USDM RX8:

Fog Lights: H11 55W
High Beams: H9 65W (SAME BULB AS DRL??)
Low Beams (non-xenon): H7 55W
Low Beams (xenon only): D2S 35W
Front and rear turn signals: WY21W 21W
Parking Lights/License Light: W5W 5W
Front Side Markers: 194 3.8W
Hi-mount Brake Light, Reverse Light: W21W(7440) 21W
Brake/Tail Lights: W21/5W 21/5W
Rear side markers: integrated led lights, non-service

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=25466

prospectjtaz
10-07-2008, 09:23 AM
You cant do HID high beam.

First you need a whole new headlight, either a second ballast or bigger ballast, need a new custom housing to put in a projector lens.

Josh, if your still thinking of doing 6K, you shouldnt do these, they wont match with your fogs or headlights.

Kafka
10-07-2008, 09:28 AM
Yeah after more research I figure I need those ballast lolz.

So Jay, we doing HID fogs in winter right?

6000k philips hid stock replacement
6000k philips hid fog
then some ~6000k high beam bulb / drl

Shit these stuff are confusing...

Footman
10-07-2008, 09:45 AM
The higher the color temperature, the less lumens you'll have in general. You'll get LESS LIGHT as you move up color temperature.

When you move up in color temperature, the white starts to get more and more blue...then around 8000k, it starts to become purplish... and if you keep going, it eventually becomes green around 12000K. By then, you have almost zero visibility ahead of you, it's useless.

A reminder that the Xenonmatch Plus are 4000k H9 bulbs that will match up with the Xenonmatch foglights from Hoen, and almost match your stock HID lowbeam (4300K). They are a direct "swap and replace" bulb, with no additional modifications required.


The H9 bulb in our cars are controlled by the DRL module in the glovebox. In normal driving DRL mode, the output to the H9's are halved. When you turn on highbeam, full power is directed to the H9.

Just so you're not confused, the two small lights towards the Mazda logo in the front are not your DRL's. Those are your parking lights (activated by the first position on your turn lever stalk). Those are standard 194 bulbs.

Kafka
10-07-2008, 10:11 AM
yay thx. I know about the lumens thing...higher K = whiter / bluer and LESS output...

But HID 6000k > Halegon on looks...thats why I want HID fog since even if its 6000k... HID > halegon on the fogs...combing both you have a better output...

prospectjtaz
10-07-2008, 10:30 AM
Ya, both me and Kaffka are just going for looks. I dont go anywhere where there are no street lamps with 8. Josh, I'll find you 6000K high beam lights, I wont be doing DRL, since mine is amaerican and there is no point.

Footman
10-07-2008, 10:32 AM
Yeah, the 3700K --> 4700K range is approximately where you'll get the maximum visibility and whiteness... while minimizing the blue-tinge

prospectjtaz
10-07-2008, 10:34 AM
Goal is to get rid of yellow tint in stock lights, so between 5000K and 6000K.

Josh post your pics already.

Thief
10-07-2008, 11:27 AM
Looks like I'll be making use of my H9 afterall. Was driving this morning and realized my driver's side burned out.

Footman
10-07-2008, 11:32 AM
Good opportunity to change it to whiter H9's now! What's holding you back?

Thief
10-07-2008, 11:34 AM
Let's make sure that HIDs are allowed as high beams / DRLs first?

prospectjtaz
10-07-2008, 11:39 AM
of course they are, that whys some cars like Lexus, have dual Xenons.

Thief
10-07-2008, 11:42 AM
As long as it's legal, I'm in. Maybe I should do the fogs too.

TurboEight
10-07-2008, 12:56 PM
of course they are, that whys some cars like Lexus, have dual Xenons.

ugh...I think the dual xenons stands for the high beams comes form the exact projector..

Sanguine
10-07-2008, 01:36 PM
I'm in for this. I'll get the money to you how and when you want it.

Footman
10-07-2008, 02:22 PM
post 1 updated!

On Mondays to Fridays, I am near the Vaughan Mills area. That's about as far as west as I normally go. You can pay me when you pick it up.

Kris
10-07-2008, 02:29 PM
For those looking to replace there stock fogs with HID's these are 6000K in both the head lights and fogs.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3094/2907289168_f09e8672bc.jpg

Kafka
10-07-2008, 02:48 PM
Kris...your photo pwns so bad...what brand is that btw? 1yr warranty? is that DRL a H9 highbeam slyvinna or something?

Thanks!

Kris
10-07-2008, 03:08 PM
Kris...your photo pwns so bad...what brand is that btw? 1yr warranty? is that DRL a H9 highbeam slyvinna or something?

Thanks!


The low beams are K-Light (but one of the bulbs blew on my way home from the RPM meet, so i swapped it out for a set of VME 6000K Bulbs. the Fogs are VME as well. Yah 1 year warranty and stuff. But i had ordered literally 100 of the kits for friends / family and people, so i had extra ballasts / bulbs laying around. The warranty is pretty dumb, you gotta pay like 20-30 bucks to ship back the broken product to China. The cost to get a new set of bulbs are about the same.

But i havent had any issues with them. they work perfectly.

PS: i have not changed my DRL lights (high beam lights) there still stock yellow. I really dont care too much about it.

Footman
10-07-2008, 03:11 PM
The DRL is not on in that picture, doesn't look like it. Just the low beam HID, parking lights, and fogs are on.

Kris
10-07-2008, 03:28 PM
Yeah the DRL's arent on in that pic.

Kris

Kafka
10-07-2008, 05:16 PM
The low beams are K-Light (but one of the bulbs blew on my way home from the RPM meet, so i swapped it out for a set of VME 6000K Bulbs. the Fogs are VME as well. Yah 1 year warranty and stuff. But i had ordered literally 100 of the kits for friends / family and people, so i had extra ballasts / bulbs laying around. The warranty is pretty dumb, you gotta pay like 20-30 bucks to ship back the broken product to China. The cost to get a new set of bulbs are about the same.

But i havent had any issues with them. they work perfectly.

PS: i have not changed my DRL lights (high beam lights) there still stock yellow. I really dont care too much about it.

You baller dude...can you order some mazdaspeed parts for friends and family too :P

I have hookups on those Made In China HID...more expensive than 100 but got 1yr warranty.

And no its not from pacific mall. :lol:

prospectjtaz
10-07-2008, 05:34 PM
DRL's are useless, all they do is keep bothering the driver when they blowout.

I havent had to replace a single DRL in my car since I got it.

They barely give out any light anywayz.

Footman
10-07-2008, 05:44 PM
The thing is, DRL's are on fulltime whether I like it or not in my car. It's the most visible light on my car for the longest duration of time. Hence, they are important to me.

Kris
10-07-2008, 07:08 PM
To be honest fellas, for fogs, the cheap HID's from China works good. the ones you get on ebay for less than 100 bucks. Same company. I was paying like 58 dollars shipped per kit. But i ordered in lots of 20.

I didnt really sell em to make money, i just got them for my friends who wanted them. (Obviously they piad me) but they work great. I would reccomend them, i have them in all my cars and they work good.

Kris

Footman
10-07-2008, 08:07 PM
Post 1 updated with your quantities specified Sanguine. Thanks for joining!

free bump!

Footman
10-08-2008, 09:46 AM
Monday, October 13 is last day of this group buy.

prospectjtaz
10-08-2008, 11:04 AM
Kaffka, we'll look into the headlights come december along with the HIDS. More shows are willing to give competitive rates for Winter Installs.

Like discussed on Sat, October - Rear Stealth, November - Interior, December - Front Headlights Plus HID Fogs, January - Puddle Lights

prospectjtaz
10-08-2008, 11:04 AM
Post your pics already Kaffka.

Kafka
10-08-2008, 11:28 AM
1)You order the stealth yet?
2)Gonna finish the bodyworks today...hopefully. Still need my piano black B-pillar and some good sealeat for the wing doh...

Footman
10-08-2008, 11:50 AM
My next group buy will also be the piano black applique from rx8strake.com

prospectjtaz
10-08-2008, 11:53 AM
Not yet, do it end of week.

Thumper3322
10-08-2008, 02:02 PM
My next group buy will also be the piano black applique from rx8strake.com

The what?

Footman
10-08-2008, 02:34 PM
That is the piano black trim that goes on the virtual B-pillar outside (on the front door). That section is now flat black matte from factory.

Kris
10-08-2008, 04:14 PM
^^^ andrew i thought you didnt want to spend so much on it?

Im telling you guys, check ebay the piano black applique pops up on there every now and than for really cheap.

Jay - if you guys need a hand with the install on the fogs, let me know.... after a few times doing it, its pretty simple.

My only advise for HID fogs are to get the slim digital ballasts they are selling now. It makes for mouting them on the oil cooler brakcets much much much easier. If you get the regular fatter ballasts its a bish to get them done properly. I had to fab up 2 brackets out of metal back strapping to get them to hold properly and not get in the way of the oil cooler.

Footman
10-08-2008, 04:26 PM
Well the Genuine Mazda one with with the rx8 rotor is like $170.. but the one that looks like it made by 3rd party guys rx8strakes.com is $50.


....now... as for the carbon fibre wiring harnesses....that's a little too balla' for me.. ahahahahahahahaha :lol:

Kris
10-08-2008, 06:35 PM
Well the Genuine Mazda one with with the rx8 rotor is like $170.. but the one that looks like it made by 3rd party guys rx8strakes.com is $50.


....now... as for the carbon fibre wiring harnesses....that's a little too balla' for me.. ahahahahahahahaha :lol:


Im telling you man, it was the best invention yet! weight savings and ultra jdm goodness... !

qtwre
10-08-2008, 06:46 PM
I think I saw mention of someone saying you can use HIDs for your DRLs. You certainly cannot. Not on this car. As mentioned, the DRL uses the high beam at half voltage. You can't use HIDs at half voltage. They'll just flicker.

Just turn on your lowbeams when you start the car and problem solved. No DRLs, only HID goodness.

prospectjtaz
10-08-2008, 08:29 PM
that's what I said, f the drl.

Footman
10-08-2008, 08:51 PM
All y'all niggas out der is gonna regret this if you dun join dis group buy...

if u drive arund as a daily driver in the daytime, ur gonna be using ur DRL's...if u wanna just turn on ur low-beams all da time, then dat's really a waste of ur xenon HID bulb...

get dees DRL/highbeam modules, u won't regret latah...

Kris
10-09-2008, 07:18 AM
I think I saw mention of someone saying you can use HIDs for your DRLs. You certainly cannot. Not on this car. As mentioned, the DRL uses the high beam at half voltage. You can't use HIDs at half voltage. They'll just flicker.

Just turn on your lowbeams when you start the car and problem solved. No DRLs, only HID goodness.

U can always count on Eric to speak the truth....

Footman
10-11-2008, 09:07 AM
bump, two more days till close.

millchan
10-11-2008, 10:30 AM
i am in i am in, for the drl.

Footman
10-13-2008, 03:05 PM
Bump.. last call tonight... closing in 8 hours.

Millchan, you understand the cost to you right?

Thumper3322
10-13-2008, 03:21 PM
quick question - could I get a pair of the parking lights? how much are they shipping and all?

Footman
10-13-2008, 03:35 PM
Shipping rate is FLAT $20. We will divide up the shipping costs per head. Find the price of the bulbs you want on the website www.hoen-usa.com

let me know what you want by midnight tonight.

Thumper3322
10-13-2008, 03:52 PM
Dude i have no idea about bulbs/lightening. What ones do you have?

Shipping is $20/how many ppl order?

Thumper3322
10-14-2008, 09:25 AM
footman you get my txt last night? My internet at home was down :(

Footman
10-14-2008, 09:29 AM
Marc, no message.

Thumper3322
10-14-2008, 09:33 AM
what fuk! wait I will send again see if you get it.

Footman
10-14-2008, 09:39 AM
Left my phone in the car, don't bother...

Thumper3322
10-14-2008, 09:51 AM
to late lol. did u put the order thru?

Footman
10-14-2008, 10:17 AM
no, I'm at work, I'll put it through tonight when I get home. You better hurry if you want anyhing.

Thumper3322
10-14-2008, 10:42 AM
Dude I have no idea what size the parking lights are. What ones u got?

is it these??

http://www.hoen-usa.com/city2.htm

Footman
10-14-2008, 11:00 AM
I did not buy any parking lights from Hoen.

Thumper3322
10-14-2008, 11:23 AM
would those work tho? It says it matches the HID low headlights.

Footman
10-14-2008, 11:42 AM
I don't know. I don't have those bulbs.

Thief
10-14-2008, 12:06 PM
Here's a novel idea. Maybe you could tell Marc which bulbs you have instead of saying you don't have these and those... you post whore!

Thumper3322
10-14-2008, 01:11 PM
Here's a novel idea. Maybe you could tell Marc which bulbs you have instead of saying you don't have these and those... you post whore!

+1 lol

Footman
10-14-2008, 01:15 PM
The bulbs I have are not from Hoen, thus it has no bearing on this group buy. I want to re-iterate that this is a group buy for Hoen products from www.hoen-usa.com

I don't work for Hoen, so I have as much information as you do if you visit the website and read the description.

Provide me with the list of items you want to buy, and the shipping will be split per head.

Thumper3322
10-14-2008, 01:17 PM
I know they aren't lol. Don't worry about it! Thx!

Footman
10-14-2008, 01:20 PM
Group buy is now closed.

prospectjtaz
10-14-2008, 01:28 PM
Oh shoot I missed out, whomp whomp whomp.

Footman
10-30-2008, 11:06 PM
Lights have arrived. Millchan and Sanguine, I PM'ed you. Give you me your availability and bring cash with you. The amounts have been given before.

I'm too tired tonight to install mine, and plus, no one seems to know if I change the DRL/highbeam bulbs will I fuck up the leveling of them? The HID's are autoleveling, but the highbeam/DRL's are not.

Footman
10-31-2008, 08:02 PM
Hoen H9 highbeam/DRL's installed! woot woot! they're a bitch to work in that cramped area!